Harris is actually in the campaign trail. You see the preparation with president biden. Campaigning on this labor day holiday. We can also show you them arriving. This was moments ago. We are going to bring this event to you here in this 5:00 p. M. Eastern hour. There's come all over the president but i mentioned with my colleague, nicolle wallace, we are here in the 5:00 p. M. Hour. We are going to bring you these two. First time since the dnc, big deal. We are going to bring that you live this hour. We think it's about if you want a rough estimate. Now i can tell you that harris was in detroit. She delivered a big speech surrounded by union leaders and tried to contrast her and the biden administration record with donald trump. At the former president over his policies. Intends to pull us back, including back to a time before workers had the freedom to organize. He appointed union busters to the national labor relations board. And he supported socalled right to work laws. We fight for our future where every worker has the freedom to organize. One union member spoke about project. 25 and its effect on union workers. He said he's going to protect their jobs and lost nearly 300,000 jobs on his watch. With the project 2025 agenda, it will give him power to go after the right to organize and it would try to dismantle our unions and make life even more expensive for us. The race is also kicking into gear. We know the general election traditionally starts after labor day. Quite different with a more recent nominee and kamala harris. Total it all up and you have just nine weeks to the actual election day, early voting begins in some states as soon as september 20th. That's minnesota and virginia, 10 days after that first trump debate so you can see everything coming down the pipe. There are signs that trump is also still struggling to adjust to his new opponent and he is on defense over several issues as the post puts it, with little chance of improving his standing, quote, trump's advisers say the only option is damaging hers. Attacks on harris. So, it is a busy labor day start to the general election. Biden and harris coming out moments away. We'll bring you that, but we are joined now by john fast and professor of politics and journalism at jason johnson. Welcome both of you. Jason, what you see on this labor day? what i see is the democrats laboring across the country. You have obviously harris and joe biden are campaigning together. You have tim walz and his wife are minnesota and wisconsin. You have doug emhoff down in virginia. But for some reason, donald trump and j. D. Vance have no scheduled events on labor day. I guess they are taking time off but it seems like two campaigns going in very different directions on a key weekend that least empirical science earns is the real beginning of the campaign. Yeah, and molly, we heard a lot about interviews. It is a tradition to have a sort of joint interview with the running mate and the harris walz campaign, their ticket just did that heading into this weekend. Some may have heard about it. It was with they may not have cut the whole thing. We are just going to run one part of it here, relatively new , where harris hits this key theme about wanting to turn the page from trump. We have had in the former president someone who is really been pushing an agenda and an environment that is about diminishing the character and the strength of who we are as americans. I think people are ready to change the page on that. Molly, your thoughts on the down the middle i say centrist but sort of traditional campaigning messaging she was doing in that interview. Number one, and number two the competitor, full disclosure, whatever, fine, they had absolutely huge interests in the interview, which i mentioned as a political fact. They had more than quadrupled what would be the typical audience there, about 6 million people, which means that just like we saw the dnc, there seems to be an awareness of when whether the vote for them, we don't know yet. Yeah. This is a really interesting thing about harris. She doesn't need to just run as antitrump. People are interested in her as her and you see that from the money she's raised from the volunteers, from this sort of army of people who are, you know, voter registration numbers are crazy. These are proof that she's actually popular as herself and so what she's doing, which i think is very smart is she's sticking to policy, for example, of what we are seeing would labor day. Donald trump has never been a labor president and many parts of the republican party have really organized against labor like thinking of right to work laws. So you really do have a democrat, you know, democrats really can run on labor and run on unions. And support for the unions. Remember biden actually marched for the union. This is a good way to show not only to be antitrump, but show what harris can do. Jason? yeah. I mean i always thought that the importance of that interview to be perfectly candid was more for the media elite than what actual voters care about because, as molly said, the voters are hearing what they want to hear from harris. Every time she and tim walz were on the air, the ratings skyrocket. They are filling up stadiums and that's not just about ego. Men and women, young people, all races and colors thing hey, i'm interested and once someone is interested, selling them on your policy is much, much easier. What's going to be interesting going forward is, what happens when harris does, say, a press conference with a bunch of random questions? she's going be fine because she's sitting vice president of the nine states but she moves from the insurgent new candidate into the traditional candidate for the last 8 to 9 weeks. It's going be very interesting to see how that may change, how specific policies and how specific her policy presentations get even as they are still building up rallies, registering voters and quite frankly, recently expanding the electoral map if they think they can win it. Yeah, and both of you mentioned sort of the context of labor day, which is a day off for many americans, not a day off for politics and the news, and in the trump walz to get sort of taking a back seat. It's also a fitting day to look at what donald trump has said recently when he is talking to his sort of billionaire allies because him and musk got themselves in trouble on their conversation recently in talking about labor crackdowns. Take a listen. I look at what you do. You walk in, you want to quit? they go, i will mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and you say that's okay. You are all done. You are all gone. Everyone of you is gone. Jason, that is actually a context book violation. Of course, whether you can hold a company responsible for a politician sort of unhelpful banter, if you want to call it that, it remains to be seen but i thought it was a fitting piece of sound here for labor day. What do you see there in that contrast, jason? there is no greater contrast. There's no greater water and oil than a guy who came to prominence of the last 10 to 15 years by firing people. Labor day is supposed to be the day where we talk about labor getting together and organizing against corporate forces in order to give regular people more rights. The man became famous and i don't care how good you did, i have some particular pick of the day, i can get rid of you. And bragging and laughing about it with someone who quite arguably, for all the companies he's right, the most famous acquisition he has recently, there's not a person alive that will say that he has one this run this company better. I think that shows how out of touch donald trump is. Maybe this was okay. He was never the popular vote winner. Maybe this was okay to have this brash, obnoxious, anti worker attitude in 2016. Is not where american workers are. It just shows that he doesn't really know how to connect with people. It's not going to work with elon musk, is not going to work with someone in the middle edition. And molly, we have in the corner of the screen, a preview shot. We have seen the biden and harris arrive there. They have not yet taken the stage. We are going to people, i'm curious if you want to reflect on the politics of them rejoining on the one hand, by all accounts, they have biden and harris, great governing relationship and she navigated the difficult period for the ministration when there is a question of whether he would stay in the race or not. She navigated it with great aplomb. But politically, you can't avoid the fact that the whole reason she is the nominee is that decided that biden was not anymore the best possible choice for the future. This is not to say that there wasn't a lot of thank you, joe signs in the dnc or if there are states where you could be helpful. I'm curious what you see here and what is fundamentally a political dance they are doing as they come out today and campaign in certain places where is helpful while she still tries to strike her own identity. Yeah. I mean, look, we have seen before president's not endorse her vice president's at great peril. We have seen that happen and the candidates have lost. What i think that biden did was really excellent there was this threeweek period where he sort of came to his own decision and then he was able to fully endorse her and even, you know, when you talk to people of the campaign, they would say he says if you want to honor me, make her win and that is a really good message. Remember, he didn't step down because he wasn't a good governor. He was good at governing but he is the oldest person to have ever run for president. He's 81 years old. And he couldn't do the campaign. By the way, now, republicans have run on age and mental acuity, and now they are running the oldest person to ever run for president. Which i think is pretty interesting. Yeah, again, it's a big part of the shift. Molly and jason, i want to thank both of you. Let me tell folks what's coming up here as part of our special labor day programming. I will be here with you for the next two hours. We have the pittsburgh rally, and when they step on stage, the president and vice president will bring it to you live. We have a lot of other stuff cooking. I have a breakdown on kamala harris leaning into her and eric holden that coming up and by the end of the hour, music rockstar phoebe bridgers on a time for women's rights in women's rights in music and beyond. That's coming up next. () i wish i had someone like evan when i started. Somebody just got their first debit card! ice cream on you? ooo, tacos! i got you. Wait hold on, don't you owe me money? what?! your money is a part of your community, so your bank should be too. Like, chase! ahh, yellow! didn't pass the tissue test? buckle up! whoa! there's toothpaste white, and there's crest 3dwhitestrips white. Whitens like a 400 dollar professional treatment. Pilot: prepare for nonstop smiles. Crest. 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We think, i mentioned earlier, it could be a few minutes longer than that based on the evolving speaking schedule, but when biden and harris, we will bring it to you live. We want to turn to how harris is leaning into her experience as a prosecutor and often trying to build the campaign theme of dea versus defendant. Now i want to take you back to something of something that is newly interesting to a lot of people. During the 23 we went to philadelphia. A big important place in the politics of electric college right now. With something different. Former inmates and people who have been in the incarcerated community and their family members. We discussed how she said she wants to change a failed and broken system. This system is woefully inadequate and preparing and it is incarcerated individuals to reenter society. In any meaningful way other than subsistence living. Yes. You did excellent work in california in making sure that higher education was available in every prison. What other things we do as president to ensure that people can can get above that razor wire ceiling. The most of our reentry efforts limit them to. Yeah, and there's a lot to be done and but i will also connect it with what we need to do immediately when folks are released. Because we've got to not only ban the box, we have to and the federal bans on federal support going to folks for everything from s. N. A. P. To college loans and student loans to housing. All of these bands make the education we can offer meaningless if when people come out, they don't have access to the resources that help everyone else actually go on to those paths for employment and higher education. So within the incarceration population, is not only the work we've done in the past, around education and the partnership that is to go in, but also it truly, i cannot emphasize enough that the need for real resources going into the mental health and treatment. You know, i look at issues like childhood trauma. The number of children that we have growing up with trauma because, let's be clear, poverty is trauma inducing. Being exposed to violence is trauma inducing and when we don't have those interventions, they normally lead to what we end up seeing in the