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MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports September 5, 2024

We begin with Breaking News. The biden administration taking a series of actions to target what they allege are attempts by russianbacked actors to manipulate Public Opinion here in the u. S. Ahead of the president ial election. According to two senior u. S. Joining officials. Joining us now is nbcs ken ken, dilanian. Ken, what more have we learned . Jose this is being described by our sources as a whole of Government Action designed to target russian Propaganda And Disinformation aimed at interfering in the 2024 it election. It is said to include sanctions by the treasury department, Law Enforcement Action by the Justice Department, and one of the focuses on rt, formerly known as russia today, that network of russian government funded English Language websites and Television Platforms that was flagged all The Way back in 2017 by the u. S. Intelligence community as a vehicle for russian Disinformation And Election interference. At that time, the Justice Department required rt to register as a foreign agent. It remains to be seen what actions the u. S. Will take against rt today, but this does appear to represent an escalation in the efforts to try to purge the system of russian Propaganda And Disinformation. What is interesting is that, look, u. S. Has been saying all along, not only Russia But Iran and china, but particularly russia has been consistently trying to manipulate American Public Opinion with disinformation on Social Media platforms, use of fake accounts, and through rt, through the statesponsored platforms. As they did in 2016. The difference now is that there are mechanisms in place, on Social Media platforms, to try to stop and flag fake accounts before the Influence Operations spread too wildly. It remains to be seen what impact this russian disinformation is having, but nonetheless, this is a stance by the biden administration to say if youre violating u. S. Laws and policies, were going to come after you. And attorney general Merrick Garland is expected to share a meeting of the Governments Election Task force today, this afternoon, with Fbi Director Chris Wray and other officials and he may have public comments to make about this effort at that time. And, so, ken this is again just breaking as we speak. But the doj targeting, do we know what targeting means and rt is a significant sized organization that transmits ins other languages. Targeting tends to mean criminal charges and indictment. We dont know exactly the nature of what actions the Justice Department, the fbi are bringing today, whether were talking about individuals, whether were talking about the organization as a whole. But clearly rt has been on notice for some time that the u. S. Views it as essentially an elicit propaganda organization, requiring to do register. There are some balancing acts that have to be taken here, because we have a first amendment in this country. Even foreign entities have the right to speak in the united states and to engage in what they discourse. What they cant do is be a mask for a foreign government funded disinformation operation. And if thats what the u. S. Is saying rt is doing, they have the ability to take various actions, treasury sanctions, possibly criminal charges, thats what we expect today. And, you know, it is important to state that this is a specific very important statement by the department of justice, by the biden there administration. There is No Doubt and there are No Doubt also efforts for disinformation and to try and affect and impact the 2024 election by other players as well, not just russia. Were talking about china, even reports recently that cuba was behind some Disinformation Efforts in south florida. Thats right, jose. And, of course, iran has been accused of hacking or attempting to hack into the trump into both campaigns, really, to obtain documents to try to replicate what the russians did in 2016, with that Hack And Leak and dump operation. We havent seen that yet. In 2016, that really influenced the election. We havent seen anything that what is consequential. What is also very interesting, jose, is disinformation, of course, is not confined to foreign entities. Americans engage in disinformation all the time. But the fbi and the Justice Department are very, very reluctant to call that out, given the first amendment considerations, Free Speech includes the right to lie, americans do that all the time in our political discourse. What they cant do is be a front for foreign disinformation thats when operation. Thats when laws are violated and when the doj takes enforcement action. Ken dilanian, t keep us informed keep us informed of anything that occurs on this Breaking News story. Turning now to the intensifying race for the white today, both today, both candidates and their Running Mates are making stops all across the country, as new polling shows former President Trump and Vice President harris essentially are locked in a dead new heat. New numbers show Vice President harris with a slight edge over former President Trump, in four of six key states that were surveyed, all within the margin of error. Joining us now, nbc News Washington Correspondent Yamiche Alcindor in New Hampshire. And Nbc News Senior International Politics reporter, john allen. Symone sanders townsend, former Chief Spokesperson for Vice President harris. She is also the cohost of The Weekend here on msnbc. And matthew dowd, Chief Strategist for the Bush Cheney 2004 campaign, a Msnbc Political Vice President harris analyst. Vice President Harris set to leave for New Hampshire in the next hour. What can we expect from her well, today . Well, it is a key question because Vice President harris is coming to this state that has voted for the democratic candidate for president for the last two elections. That being 2016 and 2020. That being said, democrats do have other races that they have their eye on in this state, including the Governors Office that is currently being held by a republican. Theyre hoping to win down ballot and congressional seats retaining those seats as well as State Legislature seats. There is a reason for her to be coming to this state. That being said, she is also rolling out her a big new economic proposabusinesses. It is going to be proposing a ten fold expansion, from 5,000 to 50,000 under her plan. Thats needed. They say because the average start of costing a business is they also 40,000. They also want to simplify the tax filing, they want to ease local Regulation And Harris is starting a goal of new applications from small businesses, people wanting to start the small businesses as part of the proposal. A big rollout shes doing today. Shell talk about Middle Class economy, creating what she has been calling an opportunity economy, and really i think leaning in on that message. She wants the president for all americans and especially for Middle Class Americans to have them access the economic opportunity that they need to make sure theyre not struggling to survive here. Yamiche alcindor, thank you very much for being with us this morning. John, meanwhile, Donald Trump is holding john, meanwhile, Donald Trump is holding a Town Hall later today in pennsylvania, critical state for both campaigns. What does it say hes doing this in Pennsylvania Today . It says that it is not just one of the most important states, but if Donald Trump were to win pennsylvania, it is hard to see how Kamala Harris would win the presidency. So they are going to fight Tooth And Nail there when you talk to trumps top advisers, you know, they speak frequently about pennsylvania as one of their keys to winning. So i think it is going to be there as much as he can. Also a reminder that he was, you know, almost assassinated in that state. And, you know, this is Donald Trump, you know, really focusing like he did in 2016 on a handful of states that he thinks can win him the presidency and a really symmetry between the republicans and democrats on this. Symmetry between the republicans and democrats on this. Republicans are focused republicans are focused on what is the most likely path. Matthew, just the importance of pennsylvania for both. But also what are the main issues that both of these candidates have to focus on in pennsylvania and what are some of the difficulties that each one has on pennsylvania . Well, the dominant issue continues to be the economy and not that far by preservation of freedoms and democracies in this, and so my guess is that Vice President harris will constantly talk about both of those things, freedoms and democracy and our economy. And in the course of this. And i think pennsylvania is one of those states and i agree with what was just said, going to be one of those states that is basically going to determine this election in whoever wins pennsylvania, it is going to be pretty much in line for that. I mean, and, you know this is an election, people say why hasnt somebody broke out or why hasnt there been a bigger lead, every election since 2000, jose, the average margin of victory has been around 3 percentage points. Thats the average margin of victory in the last six president ial elections. So this election was always going to be close, it was never going to go beyond three or Donald Trump took four. Donald trump took a three or Fourpoint Lead when running against Joe Biden. Vice President Harris is now taking a three or four Point Lead and thats where this race trades in. It was always going to be close. And so, i want to get back to this Breaking News that we just gave a second ago that the biden administration is taking action against russian propaganda. What do you make of that . Look, i think it is i think it is important. I think it is something that the administration frankly learned. We have been talking a lot of late about the administration, president Bidens Decision to take the last american troops out of afghanistan in the first year of his presidency and i think a lesson from that decision is, in fact, being as open with the american people and the press and partners as possible about the information that the united states has within reason that does not jeopardize the National Security of what is in fact happening and when appropriate take action. You saw the effects of that, when it came to Ukraine And R and and so, and russia invading ukraine and the united states being very clear in advance with partners and the public in a way in which they would not normally happen about the intelligence that they have. This charging rt, again, we expect to be charged, as ken noted we do not yet know, but usually that means charges are coming, well wait to hear from Merrick Garland, is an important point to put americans on notice that it is not i said last weekend, i said, the russians havent even weighed in yet. And we say it jokingly sometimes, but it is absolutely true there are foreign actors, russia, china, other countries included, cuba, who would who are seeking to disrupt this it is important that people are aware election in ways large and small. It is important that people are aware and paying attention so they can identify misinformation, disinformation every single turn. Yeah, i mean, matthew, former President Trump called into a podcast where he discussed the 2020 elections. Listen to this. I became president , then the second time i got millions more votes than i got the first time. I was told if i got 63 Million, which is what i got the first time, you would win, you cant not win. And i got millions more votes than that, and lost by a whisker. So, matthew, is it now Whisker Talk . Or loser talk . He has not i guess this is like an admission finally he lost the election. I think that clip is so poignant in that, one, he basically now admits what everyone knows, he but he lost. But he talks about winning millions of votes as if winning them in one election is somehow rolls over into another election, that thats all you need is the same amount of votes when the american population grows, more people get engaged, more people, you know, get active and Register And Vote in this election. So, i find it fascinating that he thinks that. And the other thing there i would like to remind folks when they hear that clip is Donald Trump has never won the popular he vote. He lost it in 2016, even with his quote, unquote 63 Million and then votes. And then he lost it again in 2020, so, it is fascinating that he finally admits he lost, but it certainly shows a complete lack of understanding of how elections work. And, symone, as Chuck Todd points out, the two candidates are a sitting Vice President and a recent former president. Quote, the candidate who loses will be the one that majority of Swing Voters view as more incumbentlike in their minds and the debate next week will go a long way in establishing that. How do you think each side has to grapple with this issue . Look, you know, i think this incumbent talk is an interesting i would one. I would just note that the nature of the Vice Presidency is that yes, your name is on the door, but number two on the so, door. So, i think that it is for voters they do not view Kamala Harris as an incumbent, and frankly they dont view Donald Trump as an incumbent. They say we know what Donald Trump did the last time he was president , okay. What would he do next, and we dont know what Kamala Harris would do as president , we have seen what she has done as Vice President. But that is joe but that is Joe Bidens presidency of presidency of which she is a part of, what would her presidency look like. I think that for voters, the Split Screen and we talk about the Split Screen, it is going to be very important, because the Vice President , which she has been doing throughout this last month, i would argue on the campaign trail, in very stark clear ways are going to is going to have to lay out what her vision is for what would be a Kamala Harris presidency. A harris walz administration. And a little bit, shes going to make distinctions between herself and President Biden, but i dont think youre going to see her draw very stark contrasts to the point where it seems as though what shes saying about the president s presidency is negative if you it is more will. It is more so what is her positive vision, and also contrasting that with what Donald Trump would do. I think shes going to talk a lot about herself and then say, and Donald Trump, and that will give Donald Trump an opportunity again to either, you know, say whatever it is that hes going to say about the Vice President and were going to see how that but goes. But i would expect some specifics come out of this debate, but Donald Trump doesnt want to talk about policy. I think it is we have to be honest to note that his campaign and his all of his campaigns, his candidacies have never been policy heavy. Policy specific. Yet that is what the and what is want. And what is Donald Trump going to offer up . Thats interesting. Im wondering, because the issue of policy heavy, Policy Specific is something that where as symone, i agree with you, trumps, i guess, political forte is not Policy Specifics. But also, john, the fact that the Vice President , if she is going to distinguish herself also has to be more policy how specific. How does each Side Handle that . Yeah, so, i think one thing that youve seen from the Vice President so far and i think perhaps we can read into this, that this is the plan going forward, is that The Way in which she is distinguishing herself from Joe Biden is to take his Agenda And Supercharge we see we see that with first time Home Buyer subsidies she talked about, 25,000, biden had 15,000, talking about an expansion of the Child Tax Credit up to 6,000 for the first year, thats basically an extension, expansion of Hypercharged Version of what biden wanted to do, see what shes doing with small businesses today. This is not, you know, particularly a new idea, by The Way, ten times, 50,000 first Year Deduction for small businesses is huge. Thats not going to be your Mom And Pop shop for the most part. There are going to be real businesses, significant size on the businesses. On the trump side, i actually think that he has put a policy out there, but it gets obscured by the other things that he talks about. We know he want we know we know he wants to construct new american cities in the middle of nowhere. Hes told us what it is that he wants to do policywise and there is a huge project 2025 document that hes distanced himself from. But clearly, you know, has been managed by people with some proximity to him. He has policy out there. It is hard to hear through some of the outlandish things he says. Including, by The Way, massive deportation policy, which would according to him take effect starting on day one. John allen, Symone Sanders Townsend and matthew dowd, thank you very much. Russia launches another deadly attack on ukraine as word comes of a major shakeup in zelenskyys government. 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