Im Chris Jansing live at Msnbc Headquarters live. We start with the unfolding news. The details on this Breaking Story at another School Shooting. It happened in east of atlanta, georgia, where Law Enforcement sources tell Nbc News they believe two people are dead. Four injured. A suspect is in custody at Apalachee High School in Barrow County. Ambulances raced to the scene as students were scene heading out of the building into the stadium. On a campus of about 1,900 students. Im joined by Msnbcs Tom Winter and special agent jim cavanagh. Tom, get us up to speed. What do we know right now . Sure, chris. A couple of things. The information is coming from a variety of briefing thats were getting and people were talking to are getting. This information is subject to change, of course, as the investigation unfolds. The initial indications are that there are two dead. That number could change. It could go up from there. As a result of this School Shooting in at least four injured as well. That number can go up as well. The suspect is in custody, whether theyre among the deceased or the injured, its just too soon to say. No idea on the background of the suspect at this point as far as who that individual may be. We havent heard a name yet. We havent heard what the motive might be. Its still in its early stages. Youre looking at video of a chaotic scene that has been taken in the last hour or so. And obviously, Law Enforcement officials on the ground and talking with students and gathering information. So this is an investigation that is still relatively in its early stages and were continuing to await more information and an Update Briefing from officials that well get later this afternoon. So marissa, tell us what we know. I understand at least one person who was hurt in this shooting has been taken to a hospital . Correct. And we dont have much more information than that. Of course, we know so many people in this community are clinging, trying to find information. Weve seen the harrowing images on the football field. No doubt Loved Ones are waiting to find out the status of their Loved Ones at The School. It is a kind of recap of what we do know. At least two killed. Four have been injured. We know the suspect is in custody. We dont know if the suspect is included in the number and we definitely dont know a motive. In terms The School, this is a small community. It is winder, georgia near athens georgia. There are about 19,000 people in winder. The school, apalachee, the enrollment is 1,900. You can see the images, the growing crowds between, of course, you see the one person being taken on a stretcher. We dont know the status or the details behind that specifically but lots and lots of people crowded around undoubtedly trying to support each other, reunite with their Loved Ones. We have been getting some peppered details and testimony from people. These interviews have been done by our affiliate. Theyve been doing a really strong job trying to capture the scene which of course, in these moments, we have covered this all too often. It is always peppered with Emotion And Chaos all in one. I heard not that long ago in an interview with someone who is waiting to find out the status of her loved one and she is very emotional and happy to find out her loved one is okay. All of these details, of course, still unfolding. We know the first reports of gunfire came at about 10 23 in the morning, chris. All right. Our local affiliate did speak to a grandmother who has a grand son at The School and this is what she had to say. I feel really sorry for the kids, that they had to experience this, and the parents who got those Phone Calls that it was their child. He was with the principal and the principal told him, run to the band room. Dont look back. Just keep running. So thats all i know. Reporter you said your daughter is with him now . Yes. His mom. Reporter A Sigh Of Relief. Yes, maam. Jim cavanagh, there is an entire community that is either heartbroken, well, theyre probably all heartbroken, or who will get horrible, unimaginable news. Others like that grandmother will be breathing A Sigh Of Relief for their own Loved Ones. But there are always questions. They come quickly. They usually fall into two big categories. One is how could this happen . And why did this happen which goes to motive . Lets talk about how you get to the Human Part of this. I know in the last hour, there were conversations about whether or not investigators might even start talking to the kids who went immediately to the stadium and determined who might have actually been in the area or in the room where the shooting occurred. Is it best to get witnesses when the memory is fresh . Are they too much in shock . What are the first steps . Well, the juveniles will be interviewed with their parents. There are a lot of investigative resources now. Gbi, the sheriffs detectives, federal agents. They have plenty of people. They can send out 30 investigative teams if they interviewed 30 children. Theyll be delicate about it. Theyll interview them with their parents. Theyll assess whether the child can give the statement. And yes, it is good to get when it it is fresh and not contaminated by the memories of others. What were looking at now is a State Prosecution for homicide. The reporting was two dead. So that will be a major case for the district attorney. So you want to get that information down. They have to sweep the house. They already have officers at the home of the shooter, wherever that is. O its in a nearby community. Possibly its a student so theyll be there. Are the parents there talking to the police . If so, theyll want to search and get a warrant. If nobody answers the door, theyll have to go in and see if somebody was harmed inside which sometimes happens. The the potential of bombs in vehicles and the harming of the shooter. Once thats done, it switch to the investigation. Just a lot of heartache tonight. It sounds like with the suspect in custody, the investigative phase is probably well underway. How did they distribute that . What are the resources that are generally available and what between local state, federal, even if there are oncampus Security Officers . [ inaudible ]. Sorry, jim . Did we lose you . Okay. We lost jim. Let me go Back To You, marissa. Do we know anything about the immediate aftermath of that . We could see what the pictures were showing us which was students getting out of The School. They were going into, as i said, the stadium. You can still see in some of the shots that are apparently from above, the students that are in the stadium. Beyond what seemed to be a very limited number of interviews that have been done, for example, with Family Members, what is the situation on the ground right now . What i can tell you about is after we had those initial first reports of gunfire at 10 23 in the morning, chris, we know it was about an hour later that we had parents and families being allowed to reunite with their Loved Ones. We know there was a soft lockdown. Apalachee High School did permit parents to pick up their children from Apalachee High School alone. But thats it. Other surrounding schools in the School District at last check at least, remained on soft lockdown. This is fluid so things might have changed. At last check there was a soft lockdown for all the surrounding School Districts. In terms of the security, the protocol, weve been getting a lot of information to Law Enforcement agencies on the ground. Of course, fire, ems, the fbi. Even we heard from the mayor of atlanta. This is the atlanta mayor who sent his prayers to the students, the staff, the families affected by yet another senseless act of violence. He did point out that hes been directing extra patrols around atlanta schools just out of an abundance of caution. Of course, probably wanting to put that out there in case people did notice the extra patrols and didnt want that speculation to start rumors. So we know that there has been heavy police presence. For those who are just joining just to remind you, winder, georgia, is situation between athens, georgia and atlanta. There is a lot of increase in patrols, a lot of increase in security in surrounding schools and districts and the nearby cities just to be extra safe here. Were still waiting to find out again, two killed, four injured. We do not know the combination, whether they were students, teachers, or a combination of both. We know one suspect in custody. We do not know if that suspect is among that number there. To recap again, 19,000 people in winder, georgia. The enrollment at The School, 1,900. School started just one month ago. We know they were off for Labor Day so you can imagine, there was still probably that back to School Excitement and yet another tragedy at a High School. These are young students. Even if they were not among the number. Again, two killed, four injured. Undoubtedly not just everyone at the High School, faculty, staff, students, traumatized by this but this very small tightknit community as well, chris. I want to bring in clint watts, National Security analyst. There is a statement that is out, clint, from the Georgia Department of education, the School Summit who talks about not surprisingly being devastated by the news of this shooting, unimaginable loss for barrow and our entire educational community across the state. He said our School Safety Team is in contact with Homeless Agency and Barrow County schools. What has to happen in the immediate aftermath of an incident like this understanding that we already live in a country on edge. We already live in a country where a strong majority of teachers have a concern about whether there might be a school the shoeing where they are. Where we know that there are literally thousands of people who have lived through School Shootings and in recent years, we found that some of them become secondtime, in a place, often in a college. They went through a high School Shooting and now theyve gone through a college shooting. How important is what theyre doing, not necessarily an investigative sense, clint, but in a sense of calming not just the community but the people throughout the region and making sure that theyre not distracted by calls, concerns, that theyre getting information out there for the very real concerns that many parents have throughout that area . Yeah, chris, i think in the first step youre already seeing it. The quick reaction and the sadness of this is, this Play Book that weve seen time and time again. It looks like the administration and the community in Law Enforcement went thank you response Play Book that theyve probably practiced before and may have even prepared for in many ways, and theyre going through that trillion. The next is making sure accountability of all The School, all their needs, and following up with that over several days this is a News Conference that has just begun. The investigation is very early and i have asked the assistance of the gbi and the agencies here behind me today and the multiple agencies that responded this morning to help us and help the Sheriffs Office. We do have a suspect in custody. And we are asking for your patience as the media to please let us get the facts that we need to make sure we get this right. Again, ive asked the gbi to help us, the Sheriffs Office to help us along with this. I know this is not what you want to hear but im not going to answer questions after this is over with. I wanted to give you the respect and our community the respect to let you know what is going on initially. Were in the process of reunifying our students with their parents. Obviously that is chaotic. We want to be respectful of them and their privacy as well. I want to thank the state, the federal agencies, the local agencies that showed up today, as you can see. The multiple ems and fire and other agencies that responded today. Again, i ask that you give up Barrow County schools, apalachee, lift up our agencies. This will take multiple days to get answers as to what happened and why this happened. But i wanted to give you a statement. It is our hope in conjunction with these people behind us that we give another statement at 4 00. I know you have to go back on the air. That is my hope. I wanted to be fluid with you all understanding that it is fluid as well with this investigation. I appreciate you being patient with us. Again, its very active and ever developing. Every minute it is developing on what were finding. So were going to have releases from other schools. Again, we ask that you be patient with us. Please be patient with us. And hopefully i can give you more information and better information, if you will, this afternoon. Thank you all for coming out here. Well be back shortly, okay . Its been widely reported im not releasing any information. We have multiple injuries. Im not releasing any more information. Thank you. Media, i want to let everyone know, as the sheriff indicated, the priority is trying to get the students back with their families. Well be holding a News Conference at 4 00. If youre not already following us on twitter or x, make sure you follow us. Well be providing details then. There are a lot of investigative details. I know you want information. Thats what the investigators are actively working on now. The idea would be to be back here at 4 00. Keep an eye on our Social Media. If that changes, youll know it. Well be able to address and hopefully answer more questions for you. Or be in a position to give you more answers. We just realized, tell us how many people, what you know about that . Were not in any kind of position. The sheriff made his comments. Well leave it at that. By 4 00, we hope to have a better picture so you can better comprehend whats going on. We really appreciate it. Thank you. So you have Law Enforcement wanting to get ahead of what understandably are a lot of questions theyre getting. Questions from the media and many of those also from the community, right . That they hope to get answers from the media. In the early hours of the investigation, they dont want to put out the wrong information. Heres a couple things that he did say that we do know. There are releases from other schools meaning that we know other schools in that area were on a soft lockdown. They wanted to make sure there wasnt a danger there in moving people about. So soft lockdown. But now apparently, theyre in the process of releasing those other schools. In the process of reunifying the students who were actually in apalachee school with their parents. We saw those who came out and were brought into the stadium as well. Also mentioning a number of the agencies that were involved from the Georgia Bureau of investigation to the local Sheriffs Office. Officials from, obviously, Barrow County schools and that school. And federal agencies, state agencies, ems, fire, there you see the picture from a little while ago in Barrow County, georgia. Let me bring back my guests, also with us, the former Assistant Director for Counter Intelligence at the fbi, and retired seattle police chief. Thank you all for being there. Clint, one of the things he said is that it will take multiple days to get answers. I think all the answers that people want may well take more than that. In the early hours of the first day after a shooting like this, what kinds of answers do you expect that they might be able to have in two hours and 45 minutes. They say theyll brief again at 4 00 eastern time. The Casualty Question which kept coming up at that initial Press Conference will be the first one theyll probably address. They may want to confirm some of these things or they may not be certain. I think second, everyone will want to know in terms of the suspect, identification and what is it in terms of the criminal process potentially now if they do determine that is the person that was the shooter. Thats the first two things. Beyond that, we know to some degree how this goes. In the coming days, everyone will be lack at the Social Media and electronic profile of the individual, the suspect, if that is the perpetrator. Theyll be looking to see about any associates and expanding the investigation. Were there any early warnings or tip thats might have popped up. And then other details will come to fold, im sure, as the investigation continues. Working at the Crime Scene now. Theyre gathering evidence. And theyll probably be able to put together in the coming days the larger scene of what actually unfolded on this day. So at least i think in the immediate, the basic questions we heard fired right there in that initial Press Conference, where theyre going to go if they do have another Press Conference for 4 00 p. M. Eastern time. One of the first questions will be having someone get a gun into that school. What kinds of security is in place there . How careful and how monitored was it . How much in recent years, carmen, has generally, and i know you cant speak to this specific school. But has School Security Training about what students should do, what teachers should do . We did hear from one grandparent that her grandchild said they were told to run and not look back. Just run, get out. How much has that changed in recent years and how much more sophisticated is our ability to deal in a school with a horrific situation like that . Yeah, chris, sadly, there is no community and those schools immune to this. Large towns have been affected. Literally hundreds over the course of the last several years. So everyone has been preparing for it. Law enforcement, school officials, teachers, students, all well aware of the potential with this Gun Violence sadly in The Schools. So again, i cant speak to this particular school specifically. I would not be surprised at all if theyve already had some level of training in terms of potential active shooter in The School. And certainly all the Law Enforcement officials and ems and others that have responded have had this training routinely as a part of what we are dealing with in our society today. Frank, have we gotten really good at this and unfortunately, had too much experience with it that you would think this investigation could move along very quickly . I think so. With all the resources that are being brought to bear, it is no longer, on, this is a rural or suburban county thats not used to this and they dont have the resources. Thats not the case will it is literally a mutual