Us into your homes. Were grateful. The beat with Ari Melber starts right now. Hi, ari. Thanks, nicolle. Welcome to The Beat. Let me tell you what we are tracking and multiple stories including this deadly horrific School Shooting in georgia. In have an update on that during tonights newscast. Theres also very serious revelations about the ongoing scandal surrounding the supreme Court And Clarence thomas and his wife. We have that. And in the middle of the program im going to share with you my report on the Maga Play Book and accountability in the age of trump. Why they want you to be retired, and you might want to resist. So all of that is coming up. I want you to know what were doing on a very serious news day. Well begin with our top story, the general election under way. Donald trump has a light schedule this week. Kamala harris has a busy one. Shes an Offense Campaigning in New Hampshire on abortion rights. You know how hard people fought for these freedoms and that they are foundational to who we are and what we stand for as america including the fundamental freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government telling her what to do. You can hear harris, the Nominees Enthusiasm as well as the crowd. And remember this is not something democrats in past cycles before Roe Have run on that before roe fell republicans have run so quickly away from. Consider that the republican nominee, Donald Trump, has been tied up in knots over this issue. He now claims hes against the republican Abortion Crack down in florida and that he would vote for a democratic effort to limit that crack down. Obviously thats a difficult position for a politician to uphold because hes basically suggesting he might vote for the thing in florida to stop the thing he did when he was president. Harris hitting that issue but also building out her agenda with new Small Business and jobs plans. She campaigned on that as well and criticized Donald Trumps record. He plans to give billionaires massive Tax Cuts and to cut corporate taxes by over a trillion dollars even as they pull in record profits. His plans will add more than 5 Trillion to the national debt. He also wants to impose what in effect is a national sales tax. And that is on top of the 2 Trillion Tax Cut. We know how to count. We know how to count. Harris talking about counting up, how this all work and balancing what is a populous message with some outreach to certain businesses, at least Small Businesses. It turns out according to early analyses and again, shes only been the nominee a little while here her plans could be better for u. S. Economic growth than Donald Trumps tariff plans, according to the Wall Street Firm goldman sachs. You see the headline. That is interesting because harris famously took on Wall Street as the a. G. Of california. She fought bankers to secure a historic 18 Billion settlement for the people harmed by the banks in the mortgage industry. And i can tell you back before she was headlining this Democratic Convention, Kamala Harris was explaining her work and how to take on those banks and use the law and fair rules, she said, to help people at a different convention. We have a deep cut all the way back to the Democratic Convention of 2012. Well, ive seen all that happens when you roll back those rules. What happens are rows offore closure signs. What happens are mountains of family debt. What happens is a middle class thats hurting. Thats what weve seen in towns across california and across this country. When it comes to the Housing Crisis thats when it comes to the Housing Crisis, the Harris Campaign argues not only whats old is new and again but that the record shes one of the more experienced nominees weve seen in a first bid for the White House. The record shows shes serious about this. Donald trump is not out campaigning. He will be seen today taping a Town Hall with sean hannity. That airs tonight. Against this backdrop you have to look at how this is all playing. I emphasize to you its early in a race that seems late into a general election because of the nominee swap, but were starting to see data and evidence beyond just the fundraising about whats happening. A million new voters now registering with over 376,000 since biden left the race. And because the way we vote has changed in america and shows no signs of changing back, we talk about election day, thats a placeholder from a bygone era. We actually have election weeks in many states, and trump allies are openly asking if republicans have not fully adjusted to that in addition to how Donald Trump has discouraged some of the basic ways it is legal to vote like voting early by mail. So you have allies in fox asking if key republicans are blowing the early vote which begins in two weeks. I think its going to be very interesting to see how successful republicans have been about getting out the early vote. Theyre not going to be able to Cry Wolf twice on this. Theyve had four years to figure this out. Theyve had years to figure this out. So how does this actually work on the ground in the key states that matter . And what about all this talk of the economy, something harris is clearly driving . And i wonder is there someone with experience on the ground in tough national political races who also knows a thing or two about the economy and how to politic on it . Who could that be . Im thinking of james carville, the perfect guest for exactly todays news cycle. And were back in 90 seconds. Ye and were back in 90 Seconds Man yes Vo Youve got your Sunday Obsession and we got you. Now with verizon, get nfl Sunday Ticket from Youtube Tv on us and get every outofmarket sunday game. Plus 800 off Samsung Galaxy z fold6. Only on verizon. Jalen Hurt see you sunday. 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Democratic nominee Kamala Harris spitting what is technically known as hot fire. James carville, the legendary democratic strategist is my special guest lead off on a Big Night with his most recent piece in The New York Times lays Out Harris best strategies to defeat trump at next weeks debate. Welcome, james. Thank you, glad to be here. Dealers choice, do you want to start with the debate or the economy . The economy. Go ahead. Since 1989 in Job Creation 50 Million under democrat, 1 Million under republicans. Id defy someone to compare the Growth Rate since 1989 among democratic and republican president s. Youd find a gigantic advantage for democrats. I have no idea why the press or the financial people just dont look at the historic record and tell us what it is. 501, thats a big number. If you get beat 501 you get beat bad, really bad. And thats the Jobs Number President clinton pointed at the convention. If they fact check, hes exactly right, 50 Million to 1 Million. So if you want a strong economy, vote democratic. Kamala harris has been known as someone whos a realistic, a pragmatist, who can sit across the table from people and make a plan and a deal. But shes also known as tough on the banks and not a pushover. Ive covered that history on this program, ando its interesting in that context that she is out here not waiting around for the debate or waiting around for a new theme or only running on the quoteunquote freedom theme, which is important. Theyre pushing economic plans which includes trying to help Small Businesses. And over on fox business, which is not exactly harris central, james, they had some commentators who said, well, they had to admit or they like this for business. Take a look. I just want to press the point when a political candidate comes up with what i think is a good idea, i have to call it a good idea. And a 50,000 Tax Cut for not Tax Cut but a Tax Credit for startups of Small Businesses coupled with less red tape, ive got to say that is a good idea. Regardless of our other tax ideas. While that may be a good idea the final maybe there is from the rnc chair. Your thoughts. Well, its a different. The Trump Plan if we just give billionaires more Tax Cuts, the money will get to us eventually. I dont know about you but where deal with Small Businesses multiple times a day. I deal with billionaires three times a year. So i come into contact a lot more Small Businesses and a lot more that employ people, and i think its a Distinction Worth noting and look at the record. 501, its big. And we know that this works, that if you invest in Small Business, you invest in education, students, that kind of thing youre going to have an economy that perks up, not trickles down. Turning to the debate, youve been around many of these president ial debates. This one is particularly high stakes. These two people have never debated let alone even met. We expect high numbers. The floor in the summer when fewer people are paying attention with biden was about 50 Million. We expect a lot more than that next week. We can report tonight the campaigns have agreed on the muted mic system, which is what they used in that summer debate. You have been thinking about this. What do you think is key for harris . Well, first of all, people know trump much better than harris so harris has got a lot of introducing left to do, and thats very important for her. The second thing is youre exactly right. America loves a Train Wreck. They saw a Train Wreck on june 27th. And theyre going to tune back in hoping to see another Train Wreck because love Train Wrecks. Sometimes we overhype debates, overhype the importance of debates. I think this one might be worth the hype here. Well see how it turns out. She needs this. She needs a platform to introduce herself to the voters of america. People know about her but dont quite know her yet. Yeah, i take your point. I remind folks the 2020 Bidentrump Debate had over 70 Million live views, and it further cemented amidst covid the idea of getting trump out not for even all the reasons legitimately people criticized him for racism, sexism, attacks on the Law And Rule and order. It really cemented the idea he was out of touch and Co Harris has continued to improve over the years as a campaigner. I think even republicans have acknowledged that in their own way. But even back last cycle she had a strong run against the Trump Agenda in pence. Take a look. You dont have to choose between supporting law enforcement, improving public safety, and supporting our African American neighbors and all of our minorities. I will not sit here be lectured by the Vice President on what it means to enforce the laws of our country. Im the only one in this state who has personally prosecuted everything from child Sexual Assault to homicide. In your piece you write about what she should do. How does that moment stand out, and how much of it is about reminding people about who she is, as you say just literally far less famous and known than Donald Trump. Well, its very effective. But remember the crime is down 30 . A big part of her resume i would like her to talk about is her time as Attorney General in the largest state and how she intervened on behalf of consumers. I think when people find that out, she has a proconsumer attitude and against pricefixing and capping insulin costs its going to go better. I appreciatethat. James, i appreciate it. It looks like youre getting other calls but youre staying on the live Tv Interview instead of taking the other call. Whoever is calling me, stop. Dont call me between 6 00 and 6 30. Look, theres a lot of political talk out there, but politico has real reporting and this isnt just speculation about republicans who say theyve had it, its a tight race, and if trump actually lost, they could rebuild instead of being stuck with him. Quote, republicans wishing for a Trump Loss include longstanding gop figures throughout the nation who believe red and wouldnt dare say this publicly but are more than ready to move on from the trump era. What does that mean . Does it affect anything in the campaign, or is it the usual d. C. you know, talk . Little bit more Eric Erikson whos very, very conservative from jackson, louisiana, and north of batten rouge, and he says they might benefit from a blow out. Remember the republicans got blown out in 62 and 68. If you want lighter regulatory cuts, the only way youre going to get that back is through a blow out. If harris gets 280 electoral votes, its not going to change. And i think theres a growing recognition of that not just from kind of never trumpers but there seems to be a sense on the ground also. Super interesting you pull that. But some of is generational the people younger and middle in the republican party understand there will be chapters and decades. And when do they want to begin that process, as you say . James, like i said Star Guest for tonight, and thank you for staying on the line. Long time listener. Thank you. 501. There you go. James carville giving us the briefing. I want to tell you whats coming up ahead. We are going to draw the link between Kamala Harris withering crossexamination of Bill Barr under oath and show you why that matters and draw the line from there to Donald Trump trying to get his Campaign Manager from 16, cory lewandowski, to commit what many prosecutors viewed as objukz in the Mueller Probe. If some of this sounds old, believe me Thats Part of the point. They want you to forget it. They will defy and lie to make you forget it. Cory lewandowski was caught lying under oath and i have a few more words for him in our next segment tonight. And thats coming up. First, we turn to that terrible story i mentioned at the top of the hour. This is in berl county georgia, in atlanta. A teenage gunman entering the high School Today and opening fire. There are four individuals who are deceased from this incident, nine that have been taken to local hospitals with various injuries. Of those that are deceased, two were students, and two were teachers. Authorities have a 14yearold Suspect in custody who was a student at the school. He is alive. Early reports and this is a fast moving and terrible story are that he would be charged as an adult. At 14 he should not have had legally had the gun. Authorities are investigating how he got it. But the way people can get guns legally and illegally in america is the backdrop for these stories. They happen so frequently, this one at a level that so many people are watching. We can also tell you Vice President harris addressing the news today. This is just a senseless tragedy on top of so many senseless tragedies. And its just outrageous that every day in our country in the united states of america that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive. Its senseless. It is weve got to stop it. We have to end this epidemic of Gun Violence in our country once and for all. A terrible shooting there at that georgia high school. We are continuing to monitor it with our reporters on the ground and well bring you updates as warranted. You updates as Warrante Usts to earn me more Cash Back in my top eligible category. Suddenly lifes feeling a little more automatic. Like doors opening wherever i go. [sound of airplane overhead] even the ground is moving for me yall seeing this . Wild and i dont even have to activate anything. 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