Senator Sheldon Whitehouse gets tonights last word in the 11th Hour with Stnie Rle starts now. Tonight, tragedy in georgia. A deadly high School Shooting Forces Gun Violence back into the spotlight at the height of the election plus former republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney gives her vote to Vice President harris but how much does this actually help the democratic ticket . Then the Vice President unveils her vision for the american economy. We get into the Business Agenda shes pitching to voters as the 11th Hour gets underway on this wednesday night. Good evening once again, im stephanie good evening once again, im Stephanie Ruhle and we are now just 62 days away from the election, and Gun Violence unfortunately is again the top issue on the Campaign Trail. Why . Because we experienced another School Shooting in america today. A suspect opened fire at a High School in georgia, killing two students, Mason Schermerhorn and Christian Engel wrote and two teachers, Richard Aspinwall and christina leamy. Nine others were injured. Officials say the 14yearold Suspect used an ar style hindering the attack. Last Year Police investigated online threats the shooter made but they found no probable cause for an arrest at that time. Here is more from georgia. Reporter horror in winder, georgia, after officials say a suspected shooter opened fire in apalachee High School. The 14yearold Student here at the High School, again he has been taken into custody. He will be charged with murder and he will be tried as an adult. Reporter this Video Capturing terrifying moments after gunfire rang out. This was like a loud boom. Reporter authority say the gunfire left four dead, two teachers and two students and nine injured. Our School Resource Officer engaged him. The shooter quickly realized that if he did not give up it would end with an oif, an officer involved shooting. He gave up, got on the ground and the deputtookhim into custody. Reporter Gulf Coast David phoenix was shot twice and is alive, according to his dauger, who posted on facebook that hes in stable condi. My heart hurts for these kids. My heart hurts Oour Community but i want to make it very clear that hate will not prevail in this county. Love will prevail over what happened today. Reporter students returned back to school in august, sophomores describing the terrifying moment. I didnt know what was going to happen because you could hear the gunfire right down the hall, so i was shaking, scared. I thought i was going to die. Reporter she said she was shaken up and scared. How does this Feel Bathis happened at your High School . Im shocked. Im shocked something like this could happehere. Reporter can his parents rushed to the schl,later reuniting with their children at the football field. My daughter called me at work, screaming that there was shooter at apalachee. Reporter President Biden briefed today, Writing Jill and i are mourning the deaths of those whose lives were cut short due to more senseless Gun Violence. The president ial candidates offered their condolences as they hit the Campaign Trail. Donald trump responded with a trutcial post. , quote, these cherished children were taken from us far too soon by a sick and arranged monster, end quote, and Vice President harris addressed the tragedy in New Hampshire earlier today. Watch this. Every day in our country, in the united states of america, that parents have to send their children to school, worried about whether or not their child would come home alive. Its senseless. Weve got to stop it and we have to end this epidemic of Gun Violence in our country once and for all. You know it doesnt have to be this way. Meanwhile, a new Nbc News Survey of Gen Z voters shows that 85 of voters under the age of 30 say they are somewhat or very concerned about the possibility of Gun Violence at schools or public spaces. So the question is, what re our lawmakers going to do about it . With that, lets get smarter with the help of O Leadoff Panel tonight, Evan Mcmorris Santoro is here, she the rubble joins us and democratic Texas State Senator roland gutierrez. He represents uvalde, where a School Shooting left 19 students and two teachers dead back in 2022. Senator, i hate having you on because every time youre here we know its for one reason. Its a new School Year and here we are again, students and teachers sheltering from Ther Ddly shooting from a teenager, a 14yearold, a freshman in High School. When you heard this report today, what went through your mi this was used three years ago, two years ago. Well, stephanie, all of this is just o sad and disgusting, quite frankly, that we Cant Figure this out in this nation. My heart goes out to those famili its so important that everybody across this country understand that Mason Schermerhorn and christian colon, those two teachers, they are not coming home. Thoe children. R School Day for the finality of death, people need to understand it because we have to do something about this in this country and to do this Means And Assault Weapons Ban. This weapon fires three times the speed of a nine millimeter and it causes incredible ma. I sued the State Of Texas to see the videos that happened in uvalde, texas, and it leaves very little semblance of the Human Body left when you get shot by one of these weapons. We have to do something now. Its my hope that people in this country understand this. Hugo, this awful, awful day, this Tragedy N puts the issue of Gun Violence Front And Center in the final stretch of campaigning. Often times one of these abot it for a few days, the News Cycle moves on but here we are less than 70 days from the race, from the election. Do you think this somehow nges the dynamics of the race . Will voters demand action from one or both of these candidates . I dont know the et to which its going to change the dynamics of the race but currently at the moment and what transpired on the Campaign Trail today, i thought it was very telling because it was really a split screen, in many ways. I was traveling with the Vice President today to New Hampshire when she delivered those remarks and she kind of spoke very common sense, i thought, the way she said it doesnt have to be this way and we can add new restrictions on firearms. And meanwhile, the Trump Campaign in response said as well, we dont even want to be talking about the politics, to me is kind of telling, having covered this campaign now for a while. Is usually a sign that they dont want to engage on the licy and i think the actual reason for that is because Th Policy is to oppose any new restrictions on Gun Rights, to oppose any rollbacks on curbing the proliferation of Assault Style weapons, which was the kind of weapon that was used today. They didnt want to draw attention to that. They made their position look week and i think when you look at that in a hole for voters its very apparent which side is for curbing guns and these sort of instances in allowing people to perpetrate real murders with these sorts of weapons. But policy is what millions of parents around the country are demanding tonight. Rents are too afraid to send their kids to School Tomorrow out of fear another student could walk in with an ar 15 style weapon. Evan, what do you think . Hugo is of couse right, this is the stakest divide the parties and really, really clear here. The republican party has had for a long time that the answer to Gun Violence is either more guns or just there really isnt much you can do about it, while democrats are trying to talk about the ideas of Assault Rifle bands and other types of Gun Legislation and safety measures. It just is so difficult in these moments to have it ever sort of breakthrough. It doesnt have to be difficult. Everything is difficult until you say no, im going to do something, im going to put myself out there and create change. What tVice President said today is quite interesting along those lines. We have a report coming out tomorrow unnoticed. Orlking about this issue, Gun Violence and Gun Safety Peope saying democrats should jump on this e on it because that hole that you mentioned, talking about young people and how worried they are about this, there are people who feel this issue has been kind of put on the Back Burner as democrats, is not their top issue. They obviously care about it, they talk about it a lot but not the number one thing and these experts told us they think there are moments where the democrats should be a little bit bolder on this issue because of Poll Numbers like that and becof how focused in this country we are about trying to do something about this. And as you mentiono Campaign Trail right now its only one candidate thats actually offering major solutions at the moment. Senator, after the Mass Shooting in uvalde, President Biden did sign the first major Gun Safety Legislation we had in our country in 30 years. Thats something. What do you think reasonably caproposd and can get done . You are in texas where things havent gotten done on a State Level even though it happened in your backyard. Nothing has happened in the State Of Texas, stephanie, but i do want to point out if you look at the point in florida after that horrible act that happened in florida, rick scott, than the governor, passed over 21 pieces of legislation including Red Flag Laws, including certain age limit requirements on these kinds of weapons. 75 of republican voters in texas want to see age limits on access to these types of weapons. I of course want to see an assault Weapons Ban i think the politicians throughout this country, when these things happen in their districts, they need to do what i did. I didnt want to go see dead kids, videos of dead kids. When you see a little girl with her face just gone, just obliterated, in such a horrific way, it changes everything that you believe in your life and it changes your focus entirely. If policymakers truly want to do the right thing here, they need to understand that this is not just another Mass Shooting. This iend of Two Little Boys lives, The End of two teachers lives, and all of this, all of this is avoidable. Every sheriff in parkland, in florida, rather, appreciates the fact that they have Red Flag Laws. If we had Red Flag Laws in georgia and i dont know if we do this might have been avoided about a year ago. And it was parkland students who fought for it. David hogg was a 17yearold high School Student in parkland, florida, and today he is one of the strongest, most outspoken Gun Safety advocates in this country. So change can happen. We do have to remind ourselves, though, Donald Trump, the last time we saw his statement on his Social Media platform, the last time we had a shooting, the aftermath of a shooting and i will, i want to share a of what Donald Trump said. Its a very terrible thing that happened and its just horrible to see that happening. Thats just horrible. So surprising to see here but we have to get over it. We have to move forward. We have to move forward. Hugo, no we dont. We dont have to get over it and move forward. We can do something about it. So who is that message for . Is that for hardcore Nra Flavored Repubs who are saying dont talk about it, look the other direction . Bcause the majority of the country is not looking to get over it and move on. Certainly nobody from those communities, certainly none of those families. I ththats right. The audience really is basically redmeat maga people and then his wider base because for them, they see Gun Rights as Something Inalenable and shouldnt be touched, and the Trump Campaign runs into this issue over and over again, which is they have policies which are unpopular in large parts of the Country Tht are very popular with certain sections of their base, and if you think about what trump is trying to do in this election, hes actually trying to turn out a Voting Block that didnt turn out for him in 2020 but did in 2016. Thats kind of young white men and young my when who are difficult to reach, who probably skew conservative and dont consume mainstream news. And to that demographic, the Trump Campaign has long believed the most conservative of policies and their positions on the second amendment are what is going to get them to go to the polls this year, and that has been their singular focus for months now. I think it also kind of ask Plains Lara Trump looks the way he does when trying to bridge this gap between fundamentally unpopular policies but also trying to appeal to a very, very narrow section of his base which he thinks will swing the election in his favor. Lets talk about young male white voters. They might like to play violent video games. They might be antiquote, Unquote Cultural Wokeness but i dont know, there is an awful lot of young white males who certainly dont want to go to School And Risk Gun Violence. What is he doing for them . Such a young whitmale voter, this is the big challenge the republicans have with this issue is it feels like were kind of in the Zombie Land when it coms to this because the nra doesnt have the pwer it used to have. The conversation has changed about this issue but the republican party has gotten more and more extreme on this. A superpower when lapierre once was, he is a Shriveled Up Old Man who is unemployed at this point with zero power, probably not even in his household. I dont know about that but this is a fascinating topic to cover. Ive covered so many and this is a horrible part of being a urnalt during this era is going to cover these and being a part of these conversations. And every time it goes the exact sy, whih is everybody says surely there is something we can do and someone says actually no, we really cant do anything at all and the republican party tends to go quiet on it. There have been moments, as the senator mentioned, where states have made changes and made political changes and those republicans havent been punished by their voters in those states. They didnt lose nch of national Support Or Anything Li Thatbut for some reason, when it comes to this issue on the national stage, E Gop specifically gets these very, e nervous about getting anywhere away from the idea of guns for anybody who wants them, whenever they can get them, thats the best way to solve this. Im not convinced thats a very helpful Message Forthem going forward but they seem to be sticking with it. Nervous like parents feel when they send their kids off to school. We are going to leave it there, gentlemen. Thanks for joining me tonight, evan and hugo. Roland, i said it before. I dont like seeing you but i appreciate your insight. When we return, Vpesident Harris scoops up a very big Gop Endorsement but will it lead to Gop Votes . And later, the u. S. 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He is now a senior advisor to the vets, and Stuart Stevens is here, a veteran of the Mitt Romney and george w. Bush president ial campaigns. Hes now with the lincoln project. She didnt just say im voting against Donald Trump. She said im voting for Kamala Harris. What is your reaction . Do yothink shes going to have an impact on this race . I think shell have an impact and i hope one of the other impacts is that others will follow her. I really dont understand how if youre someone who has said what a lot of republicans have about Donald Trump, like a chris christie, how do you not endorse harris . I mean if you really believe that hes a threat to the country, one of these two people is going to be president of the united states. How do you say i really care about the country but im going to sit this one out . It just doesnt seem patriotic or any kind of Coherent Sinking or morals. So i think liz, who i admire greatly, ive worked with a lot back in the day, i think she will help here. Max, i spoke to a very senior former republican who said tonight, Liz Cheney just put herself on the right side of history but my question is, does this endorsement put any votes on the side of Kamala Harris that might not have been there yesterday . Its a big deal. Part of the Big Tent right now for the Democratic Pare Disaffected oldschool republicans. Thats Liz Cheney writ large. This is not just a runofthe mill republican. Its a cheney. This was part of the nobility, almost, of the republican party a decade ago or two decades ago. And when you look at suburban areas in sng states or even when you look at these contested congressional districts, there is plenty of Bush Era republicans that just Cannot Stand Donald Trump. Now what the danger is for the democrats right now is they cant just say, oh, we have it in the bag. This is just one piee of the puzzle but there is certainly more to come. Its absolutely imperative right now that we stay on the offense, that we just dont assume people hate Donald Trump but we consistently remind people of he fact that why Liz Cheney is doing this is because Donald Trump is the guy who said that the fallen are suckers and losers, who does political advertisements in arlington. This is why Liz Cheney is doing this right now. Harris is doing that because hes not just saying Donald Trmp is crazy and hes a weirdo. Shes actually putting out Policy Proposals every day that defeat Donald Trumps argument that shes a super progressive, shes a communist. Shes actually putting out just today she put out pro Business Centrist proposals, which is the opposite of how Donald Trump or classic republicans want to paint her, so shes doing the work. Absolutely. Its a 12 punch for reason. That is so essential. In the past weve made the mistake of making it all about Donald Trump so i certainly what she did today and how her campaign has been issues focused. But lets not forget about how toxic this guy is. I mean hes doing it each and every day, the assault on our shared values and i look so often to the military in this regard. If you are spitting on the fallen, if you are constantly talking about the suckers and losers who didnt make it home from war or saying, thank god you didnt get the Medal Of Honor because thats for the rest of them, youre not worthy of the presidency. So why Liz Cheney made this decision, yes theres a Policy Element but its about something deeper than that. Its about our shared values and none of which Donald Trump stands for. When Liz Cheney said that people need to understand that they do not have the luxury of writing in candidates, particularly in swing states, is she talking to voters or is she talking to her colleagues . Im thinking about senior republicans like Mitt Romney, who for the last two elections have set Cant Vote for Donald Trump and then he writes in a candidate . Is that Whois Cheney is speaking to hear . Because you cant call yourself a serious person and say this is a serious election and then write in donald duck. I think shes talking to both. You know it is true that the cheneys do have a special place in the republican party. Going back decades. Before he was Vice President. And it is just so telling that there is not room for a cheney in the republican party. I mean its extraordinary. So i think this does resonate with people. I think Liz Cheney is tremendously admired by anyone who believes that there was a free and Fair election, which is a majority of the country. She was an absolute voice, a Clarion Call during these Committee Hearings and shes a real conservative. Yes i think it does help and she is to be credited for doing this, and hopefully she goes out and she campaigns more. When she did some of that in 22 and had a real impact. Liz cheney is a name a lot of people were waiting for. They remember her with the January 6 investigation but that isnt even what she was talking about today. She was talking about the threat to the future. Beyond Liz Cheney, is there a person, is there a name in your mind whose endorsement would be huge for Vp Harris and would make a big, big difference with unmotivated or swing voters . You think about the ways in which Liz Cheney maybe is opening the door right now for Mitt Romney, for chris christie, for particularly i think about many of the generals who are talking about ways in which they are afraid of Donald Trump, how they consider him a threat to all that we hold deal yet they are not yet getting political in that sense. But the broader point is what is essential here. Those who have worked with Donald Trump, those who would come nywhere near Donald Trump in a professional or personal capaCity Do not support him, all going up to his Vice President. And thats not the case on the democratic side. We saw it with the dnc and the rnc. The dnc was an allstar lineup of current democratic stars and ones from the past. The rnc was the trump family. It was almost no one from his last administration, almost no one. There is a new piece out in politico that basically says republicans are all in publicly for Donald Trump but behind the scenes theres a whole lot of republicans, and not never trump republicans, current trump republicans who actually hope that Vp Harris in they can be done with trump and actually start fresh in 2028. If they actually feel that way, why not do something about it today and make that a reality . Look, weve heard this in 16. I think they are trying have it both ways. These people, to me, are really beyond useless because they are really contributing to this problem, and Donald Trump is not the problem with the republican party. He didnt create the republican party. He revealed it. There is something deep sickness in the republican party, that its a party that has come to value cruelty, come to value anger, come to value this sense of grievance. The heart of the proputin elements in American Politics is in the republican party. I really do not think its functioning as a normal, traditional american political party. So all of this, while id really like to i hate to see Donald Ump but maybe im not going to vote for him or something, i just dont buy it. I think if epublicans have proven themselves as the party has, to ca about Nothing But Power and i think they are terrified of where the country is going and they see this as one of the last chances they have to stop that. If youre really terrified about where things are going, stick around for the next segment because when we come back were going talabout how countries like russia, china, and i oreign adversaries, are trying to manipulats of american voters and the Department Of Justices plan to stop them. 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The doj announcing the seizure of 32 Internet Domains used or sponsored by the russian government, it says, to Spread Bogus News Stories. These websites were designed to appear to american readers as if they were major u. S. News sites. Reporter the doj also indicting two employees of the russia fund mediacompany, rt, which was banned in the u. S. Following the invasion of ukraine. Since at Leaslst Yeart has used people living and working inside the u. S. To facilitate contract with American Media figures. Reporter the two russian nationals are accused of running a 10 Million scheme to fund indirect a u. S. Company producing videos, mostly direct lead to the publicly stated goals of the russian government, accordngto the indictment. It comes a day after former new York State employee Linda Son pleaded not guilty to taking millions from china in exchange for influencing top levels of the new York State government. The moment we discovered the misconduct we fired this individual. Im furious. Im outraged by this we have your. Reporter the couple allegedly living a lavish lifestyle with multimillion dollar homes, luxury cars, and extensive gifts. The Department Of Justice says that she was a threat to our national security. In what way . Agents of influence are subtle. Theyre difficult to see. While they dont steal secrets, they can alter information. Reporter the u. S. Government says its not just china and russia, but also iran and their efforts to influence the election are only ramping up. The justice Departmens Message is clear. We have no tolerance for attempts by authoritarian regimes to exploit our democratic system of government. Here to discuss, former fbi special Agent Clint watts, who is the General Manager for Microsofts Threat Analysis security analyst. C national all those times that trump is basically saying pretty pretty, hes a cutie, i guess we know y. I think its pretty remarkable with the u. S. Government today, just on the Russia Side alone, its really three different efforts. One is rt, which was their major outlet for reaching foreign audiences, particular a u. S. Audience back in 2016. Theyve been struggling to a u. S. Audience and they were trying to get workarounds by paying content Providers Hrough touts. Second is what is really known as the Doppelgdnr Etwork thats what they are talking about re they spoof news websites. They would put out fake stories that use may be a real logo, put maybe an Msnbc Logo On Top of somhi, bbc. Those News Stories are traveling across Social Media the last year and the third is really whats called the cyber activigup. What the announcement revealed is that was run by Fsb Intelligence officers with the russian government, and they do lots of cyber attacks or Hack And Leak operations potentially. When you put all this together, this is erything weve seen from the russian tricks over the last eight years and really putting it together for 2024 again. Okay. So now we know they did it and they e putting sanctions in place but is it going to stop now . Weve got less than 70 days to go before the election. Are the ites Cing Down . Are those American Media personalities that were being paid by russia or other couries, are they being punished . Are they out there apologizing . How do the american people find out now that this was a bunch of bull, a bunch of lies they were being toland how does it stop . In terms of the domain, stephanie, youre already starting to see those warnings when you go to the actual website, the url. You are starting to see some of them have been taken by doj and the fbi. Knocking a channel off line, if you dont know how to get to that channelfter this, this is a good disruption activity, especially close to the election. It would be hard to rebuild an audience. In terms of the cider proxy, the reveal that was going to be a Hack And Leak front, these were places where you could see Information Dropout there. It would be much harder for them to do it and for Content Creators i think it definitely sends a chill throughout the system but theres probably case is still ongoing and maybe they will unfold on them. Definitely one of the warnings that they get where the resources from and who is paying the bills. Weve been hearing about for an Election Interference since 2016. Is a worse today . I actually think for the most part, allcotries are struggling just because of the way defenses are set up, whether s Tech Ompanies like The One at microsoft, defensive efforts wking across that ecosystem, as we here, this wouldve never t happened eight years ago, they couldnt have gotten organized or even detected it in this way and then just look at other actions you saw regarding chin and iran, especially over the last month. You are seeing three nationstates that are all trying to do Election Work but being Caught In The Act so im hopeful that we made a lot of Gress Ov the last few years. Remember when Tucker Carlson went to russia, walked into grocery stores, said how great it was . I wonder why he did that. I wonder if he was paid for it. Clint, thank you for joining us, there he is, saying it so much better than american grocery stores. Yeah, they are paying you big sums of money to say. 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For everybody out there, who says shes antibusiness, how much do they need to hear this proposal . Look at the Fact Sheet because this s a super proBusiness Agenda. Tax breaks that are promoting entrepreneurship. In her speech see she said weve got to figure out how to get venture Capital Money away from the coast and into every City D small town in this country. Have even heard that from any President Ialandidate in years . Probably not since bill clinton. Really its been a long time since anybody has had that focuand its a good proposal. That 50,000 in subsidies, if you will, or incentives is spread out over a period of time so you wont be able to necessarily wrie it off right away but it is an incentive. Its about her direction she wants to go in. Thbel socialist or far leftist is beyond the pale. There is really nothing in any of her economic puzzles unless you want to call Tax Hikes Socialist which would also be inaccurate. There is really nothing there that would suggest shes an ultra leftist in any way, shape and form. In fact, by cutting the proposed capital Gains Tax Increase that President Biden put out rather substantially, thats rather surprising in and of itself. Lets talk about that because people glaze over and they were like what, capital gains. The thing to take away is that president Bidens Proposal was to be at 39 of longterm capital gains. Hurt proposal is 28 , right . So the fact that she is looking to do that, does that not say to th country, shes looking to say, listen, we just have to even things out. Obviously the Tax Code Isnt working for everyone. Weve got to modulate here. That Tax Right now is 0 . Shes effectively saying i want to raise taxes othe wealthy in this country but not as dramatically as Joe Biden is proposing and who knows whats going to happen if shes elected ad whatever the configuration of congresses, if that Tax Law is going to get through but youre right. Shes taking out her position on this, making that clear and shes justifying it in a way ti Think Ll make sense to a lot of americans. People who are proponents of keeping that Tax Lettr Sa encourages investment by the wealthiest in tuntry. She is not into that all the while, saying the richest people should be paying more to the government lets look at she is speaking to and who shes listening to because in the last year, we heard President Biden wasnt listening to or speaking to the business community. I remember after dollars, a Fortune 500 ceo said to me you know a persons prio on their agenda. President biden is spending very little time with people from the business community. Thats very different with Vp Harris. Mark human just put it out today, saying tell me a Business Leader that she hasnt mewith, that she hasnt spoken to. Even in the last few weeks we have seen people in her economic team bring more and more Business People in to listen to what she has to say and also for her to en o their priorities. Thats what she does. Its been a pretty broad crosssection, as well. Reaching out to silicon valley, she may reach out to the crypto community. I dont think that really matters but President Trump has been pandering to them for money of late, former President Trump, so i think she reached out to a lot of folks and ultimately may be being less concerned be being less concerned i i think there is a favorable stance toward business than one might expect. I would agree with that. We seeng is a more animated Candidate Interacting with more people and listening to more people. I think the way she approached of this has been deliberate and compressed, unprecedentedly short campaign. A lot of people grousing she hadnt put out interviews in a few weeks. Shes trying to draw distention between the demonstrations helices and what she hopes hurts will be. We can look forward to tomorrow want to hear. With regard to the Small Business think you can get that deduction in the next 15 years, you can write off more stuff. What she is proposing here to your pot, stephanie, emphasizing the point that starting a business is hard, a lot of them fail. It is good to havthe ability to write that of earlier to lessen the likelihood that is going to happen. What about the double standard . There was all of this pressure for her to put out detailed proposals. She has. When was the last time either of you got a detailed proposal, a detailed economic proposal sent to you from the Trump Campaign . Not ever. We do know he nts to lower the corporate Tax Rate from 20 to 15 , which would bust the deficit. From some analysis, we know his proposals would increase the deficit five times what Vice President harris is proposing. We know that just from the math. Theres not any details. Goldman sachs but that out today. Theres only so much you can put in an email that says dont tax tip, which is what i get the most from his campaign. We are not getting a lot of new ones. Goldman sachs out with this Rort Sayng effectively what he is proposing, theres so much plasticity to this. I want to put in more tariffs, more tariffs on china and mexico. What Goldman Sachs is saying, the effects of this, the effects of that on the economy would be so bad, even if the Trump Tax cuts were to stay in place, they would offset and be ruinous to the economy even if they were to maintain the tax cuts. Especially when you throw in the notion of mastery petition, between 11 and 20 Million immigrants, which would throw the Lor Market into absolute chaos, which would create inflation with thiffs an recession with the deportations. That is stagflation. I just want people to pay attention to the fact that they voted the Word Plasticity here it we can talk about Donald Trumps media stock. It is now down 74 from its peak, closed below 17 and cents a share. Even at 17 want a share, Donald Trumps steak is worth 2 billionand hes going to be able to dump it in the next two weeks. What is your Tke Question if you dump it, it will be less than 17 and cents because you cant put that much. Lets say it is half of 17. He still going to take 1 Billion Bucks for a company that is fake. Okay, understood. I dont think you could even sell 1 Billion of stock without driving into down to single digits. It is very dangerous for someone to trto dump a stock that has gone from 95 and cents down to 17 and cents. Is there anything in your life that is worthless that you coulsell a pocket 500 Million . It is nonsense. Im not a fan of the company because it doesnt earn any money and the stock is down 84 fom its peak. No. What is your take on this . 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