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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight September 6, 2024

Nine more. The suspect, a 1old boy, is currently in Police Custodych and because this is a uniquely american problem, it quickly became part of the american president ial campaign. At a rally in new Hampshire Today, Kamala Harris broke from her prepared remarks to address what happened in georgia this is outrageous that every day in our country in the united states of america that parents have to send their children to school about whether or not their child will come home alive. Im going off script right now. But our kids should be sitting in a classroom where they should be fulfilling their god given potential and some part of their big, beautiful brain is concerned about a Shooter Sting through the door of the classroom. It does not have to be this way. It does not have to be this way. Compare that to what happened earlier this year when Donald Trump was forced to respond to a high School Shooting in perry, iowa, while he was Campaigning Inwh the state. Its a very terrible thing that happened, and just horrible to see that happening. Thats just horrible. Sog. Surprising to see it here. But we have to get over it. We have to move forward. Well have to get over it. Today on his social Media Site Trump posted his condolences for the victims of the georgia School Shooting calling the assailantin a sick and deranged monster but making absolutely no mention of Americas Epidemic of Gun Violence that keeps claiming more childrens lives over and over and over again. So the contrast bween the two candidates in this race is quite clear. E now, the Reason Vice President harris was in new Hampshire Today was to unveil a new plan in her economic agenda, Tax Credits for small businesses paid for in part by Tax Increases on the wealthiest Americans. Ea harris used that opportunity to once again draw contrast with her d opponent. He plans to give billionaires massive Tax Cuts and to cut corporate Taxes B ove a trillion dollars even as they pull in record profits. His plans will add more than 5 Trillion to the national debt, and that is on top of the 2 Trillion Tax Cut he gave them when he was president and when he exploded the deficit. We know how to count. We know how to count. As harris made her case in the granite state, her running mate, governor Tim Walz, was campaigning in pennsylvania, which has quickly become T Mustwin State of this election. At a Campaign Stop in lancaster, walz popped into a local Grocery Store where he and his daughter met with Business Owners and bought Aow Couple of seasonal treats. Now, remember only two weeks ago Governor Walzs opponent, senator j. D. Vance went viral for hist extra Cringy And Sremy awkward stop at a local Donut Shop in georgia where he appeared psychologically incapable of deciding which donuts he wanted. During his Campaign Stop today, Governor Walz made note of all that. Were a big fan of pumpkin. Big fan of pumpkin. I think thats what were going to do. I think get that one and that one maybe. I could balance it out to have a nutritional diet. I said look at me i have no problem picking out donuts. No problem picking out donuts or Whoopee Pies for that matter. The Trumpvance Team spent the Dayam Preaching to the choir. Today j. D. Vance spoke at an event for turning Point Usa which supports Donald Trump. Trump, meanwhile, is sitting for a Town Hall this evening on his preferred network, Fox News. And even though trump speaks almost exclusively to friendly outlets, he has broadened his horizons this Election Cycle. The new york times reports this week on trumps new strategy to court what is being called the manoverse, a constellation of youtu verse, prank centers, and streamteres with massive online followings. The target here is target young men and exploit and deepen the divide between Trumpep Supporte and harris supporters. And these streamers in the manovee, all of them white men have hosted trump on their channels for what might technically be called interviews but Reallyle Defy any sort of journalistic coordination. I would just do cocaine. Thats down and dirty, right . And this is yeah. Cocaine a stronger up . Yeah, yeah. Youre way up with cocaine more than anything else you can think of. Cocaine can turn you into a damn owl, you know what im saying, homey . Youll be out on your own porch. Youll be yourwn street lamp. With hardhitting conversations like that who really needs journalism . Trump will have to take questions from actual reporters next week when he and Predent Harris Face Off for the first time in a televised debate. And just a few hours ago Nbc News released the rules for that debate. There will be no live audience. Candidates will get 2 minutes for each answer, 2 minutes for rebuttals, and one minute for additional followups. And usually, when one candidate speaking, the other Candidates Microphone will be muted. Joining me now is jonathan martin, senior political columnist. Thank you for being here. This is not muted. This isot live. Thank golly for that. Do you think it matters . I know the Harris Campaign was reluctant to agree to this debate until they resolve this issue on whether Donald Trump would be heard presumably talking over her or talking during her answers. At least his mic will not be live. Do you thinkno that matters froa political standpoint . Its hard to judge now, alex, because we dont know what were missing, right . Its kind of like trying to figure out if trump had been on a Hotd Mic and said something outlandish or offensive, now were not going to know, which is precisely why the Harris Campaign was determined t try to keep the mics hot, because of course their strategy involves Donald Trump saying outlandish things and holding that up to the american voter. Its interesting the contrast. The bidener folks in June Didn want the mic to be hot and didnt want a live audience either because they didnt want the Trump Show to overwhelm the debate and didnt want biden to take the debate, frankly, and get into the Back And Forth which they t still famously did over their golf game. Who can forget that. The Harris Campaign didnt take the debate. The response has been lets move on effectively. I do think your point, though, aboutin the outlandishness of T Trump Brand being either a liability or asset, here we see one maybe were in a Debate Context its a liability, but you hear the interviews hes doing in the socalled manoverse where hes talking to young men about coke and how high you get when you do cocaine, and that seems like he wants it to be part of his brand message. It doesnt seem like hes being lured into a unsuspecting call with a youtuber. First of all this doesnt exist in this Election Cycle . At least im not been familiar with. Obviously podcasts around the previous cycle. I dont know if you had the extent of the audience a lot of the podcasts had. What it tells us about Trump Ityc 145th example how trump breaks the mold for most candidates for president , alex. Typically candidates for president want to do two things. They want to persuade voters and mobilize voters, persuasion and mobilization. Trump has never been interested in persuasion. Its an all mobilization strategy. Hes not trying to convince Somebody Wavering or skeptical, hes trying to find more adherence who might not vote at all. Also look at what he rolls out after the democratic convention. Its not a centrist republican. Its Tulsi Gabbard and Rfk Jr. Right. Because the strategy is deepen and find folks deeper instead of broadening. He wants to find the person whos not going to vote at all or vote for rfk that could vote for him. Hes not looking for a voter who was for harris or biden. Reporting says i think its like a third of the young men in Thisth Adherence of the man overse, residence who say they plan to vote for trump did not vote in 2020. These are guys animated by Sports Talk and Sneaker Talk and notd political talk, and trump has kind of opened up a portal in the universe for them to be part of their manoverse. At the same time its a big assumption theyre actually to get out there and vote. Thats precisely the risk. These are not 60yearold folks who voted in every primary and general election as good citizens for the last 30 plus years. These are kids who maybe if they have one too many Bog Hits are not going to show up and pull the lever for anybody on Election Dayr because theyre t going to get off the couch. I think thats your real risk when you bank your campaign on mobilization and dont do any real persuasion. Donforget Nikki Haley was winning voters months after she dropped out of the race in a republican primary. A lot of them are traditional kind of Bushy Republicans who have not gotten the touch from trump, who are still out there trying to figure out what they do. Harris, trump, or none of the above. That to me is really interesting. Let me just say for the record i dont think the kids do pong hits anymore. I wouldnt know. Well save that for another discussion offline. Google if kids do bong hits. I dont think the Harris Campaign is intending to have a strategy as they did the reproductive bus tour. I dont think reproductive should be a gendered issue, but the fact of the matter it is politics. Abortion actually brings voters out. If you are pursuing even the gendered Manoverse Strategy of trump, perhaps more directed at Women Strategy of harris on the abortion question, who do you think like which hand would you rather have . Certainly ifu you look at T History of American Politics since Theob Decision of 2022, clearly you would have to say the Kamala Harris strategy, but i wouldnt recommend that either. I dont think shes pursuing just a gender strategy, but i dont think it would be wise if she was to do that. Obviously between those two the more likelyy voter to come out to your point earlier would be the woman responding to Theie Issue of abortion rights. I do have to ask as we talk about the Study And Contrast here, its not just the ordering of donuts and j. D. Vances seeming incapability of picking between cinnamonty rolls, i thi glazed, those with sprinkle, and Tim Walz just obvious Comfort Ordering Whoopee wipes and all of the above, yeah. All of the above. When we talk about the emissary to the white Working Class, Tim Walz is camped out in pennsylvania. Kamala harris, the Harris Campaign announced she will be in pittsburgh until the debate. They are really trying to plant a fla there. And i just wonder whether you think democrats in this new ticket have kind of a better shot at that group of voters that are a huge part of oh, i still think its going to be difficult. I think it transcends the T Nominees of the party. I think there are broader trends on Educatione Polarization in Thisca Country that are moving Working Class voters to the gop across racial lines, and its, frankly, the biggest challenge that Kamala Harris faces. Traditionally democrats in the party are the Working Class, and that is sort of diminished, you know, in recent cycles. And i think the biggest challenge she faces, nevada, arizona, north carolina, georgia, pennsylvania, you name it. Working Class N voters especial Working Class men, white, black, hispanic, can she mitigate her losses among that group . Thats going to be i think a huge driver as to whether or not she can get to 270, alex. And thats why shes in new Hampshire Talkingwh about a new economic agenda. Jmark, the man who knows politics so, so well even if he does not know that much about Thc Delivery systems not in the 21st century at least. Good clarification. Thank you fortu your time tonight, my friend. Thanks, alex. We have a lot to get to this evening including eye popping new allegations from the Justice Department about russian attempts to interfere in the 2024 election. That is next. O interfere in the 2024 election. 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Today the Justice Department revealed what it are alleges are two new Misinformation Campaigns run by the russian government with the goal of influencing the 2024 president ial election. One of those campaigns allegedly used Social Media to push elaborately faked dupes of websites like the Washington Post and Fox News to trick western readers and disguise russian misinformation. The other campaign allegedly laundered nearly 10 Million into the united states to pay unwitting american political influencers to make nearly2,00 videos. Apparently the influencers believed they were making videos for an american company based in tennessee, but the client actually paying for all of this was allegedly the russian State Run Media Company Rt. Luckily for us the kremlin was good enough to write down its goal here in actual black and white. An internal Planning Document created by the kremlin states that as a goal of the campaign is securing russias preferred outcome in the election. I wonder what that outcome could be . Joining me now congressman Jim Hines of connecticut. This is an extraordinaryy, and one of the things that really stuck out to me is that the conservative Influencers Rt wanted to hire, they were all conservatives. Benny johnson, tim pool, david ruben, matt christiansen. What point are you drawing here from the Fact Russia was trying Recruit Influencers and the fact they were all conservatives . Im not surprised for two reasons. And i dont know conservative is the right word. I think Liz Cheney and Ronald Reagan who were pretty clear on russia. This is a much more radical thing. I would call it maga. Maga following, of course, their cult leaders instructions, an example love Vladimir Putin. Hes not checked in any way, not balanced in any way, and they love that the way Donald Trump did when he was president. Thats point one. And point two, the other reason im not surprised is because if you look at the left and right today you can look at the left and say, gosh, i dont agree with their position on gaza, i dont agree with their position on the green new deal, i dont agree with their position on single payer health care, if thats the way you think. But those are policy decisions. On the farright, of course, you have january 6th, the attack on the capitol. You have election denialism. You have all of the things that the russians hope to grow in our society, which is chaos. Page 3 of the indictment you will see that the objective is there in black and white. Of course its to reelect Donald Trump, but chaos is in the service of Vladimir Putin telling the world that democracy simply doesnt work. You know, in all of this, the influencers themselves are saying they had no idea russian money was behind this. The tennesseebased company that cut the checks, effectively, is saying we had no idea it was russian money that was behind this. But the indictment, you know, curiously includes some detail like the founder of this tennesseebased Company Searching in google what time is it in moscow, and saying things like so were billing the russians from the corporate, right . I mean that to me sounds like they understood there was some russian a to th. Are you buying the pleas of ignorance . No, i actually read if you read the statement by tenant theyre like nothing to see her, lots of cya, wasnt my fault, we didnt know. Look, well find out over time. What worries me, alex, this is not an isolated example. As a ranking member of the Intelligence Committee i get fairly frequent briefings on the russian efforts. This will not wehe last

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