Transcripts For MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart

MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart September 9, 2024

The young and the worried. New insights what genzers are thinking and a surprising divide among young men and Young Women. Converting conservatives, liz Cheneys Message to fellow republicans after revealing she and her father, Dick Cheney, are supporting harris. Many republicans out there saying, well, you know, we will not vote for her but we will write someone else in. I think that this time around that is not enough. I am Charles Blow in for jonathan capehart. This is the Sunday Show. Just 58 days left in the countdown to the president ial election and the long awaited Debate Showdown that is just two days away. Vice President Harris and Donald Trump Will Pleat in person for the first time. The candidates will face off for a 90 Minute Debate in philadelphia on Tuesday Night. Vise President Harris has been hunkering down preparing in pittsburgh. Just moments ago she took a break from prep and went for a walk with her husband, second Gentleman Doug Emhoff when asked she is ready for the debate she gave a thumbs up. The Harris Campaign has been busy Making Plans post debate. The Vice President and her runningmate, governor Tim Walls will spend four Days Brainstorming to share their message of a quote new way forward. Harris will kickoff the tour with an event in North Carolina on tuesday before heading to pennsylvania on friday. But, first, the focus is squarely on the debate. And the stakes are high. We all remember how the political landscape shifted dramatically in june following the debate between Trump And President biden. Ultimately resulting in Bidens Withdrawal from the race. And, if past is pro log we can expect trump to stray from actual facts. During his debate with biden he made more than 30 false claims. Harris will be ready for whatever is thrown at her. We have seen her take charge. Case in point, her response to mike pences attempts to interrupt her during the Vice President ial debate. But susan this is important. I want to ask, mr. Vice president i am speaking. I have to weigh in. I am speaking. Joining me now, mitch landue. And former senior advisory to President Biden. I would also say, mayor, that you are former mayor of New Orleans but maybe you have outgrown that introduction, but thank you for being here, my friend. Thank you. As you know Donald Trump is well known to his supporters. Many ways this debate is a transfer for harris to introduce herself. 28 of voters want to know more about her. So, how does she do this . How does she introduce herself to all of these undecided voters . Thanks for having me. I think you will see an incredible contrast between two people, one that is normal and well prepared. One that is doing an incredible job and thinks about other people. Thinks about himself, power, grievance. That wants to take us backwards, i think she will be clear and she will be strong and she will be powerful. She will remind people who say they dont know who she is. A District Attorney that prosecuted Sex Frauds and prosecuted criminals that she was an attorney damage. That she was a strong senator that talked about protecting womens reproductive rights, that is, Vice President , she has done an incredible job of helping President Biden lead the country through very, very difficult times. I expect her to do well. As you mentioned in your intro. Trump is not somebody that can control himself much less follow the rules on a debate stage. It will be one of the rules like the seven other major debates. Lets talk about trumps kind of volatility here. The Vice President has done a good job of leading her campaign with joy in the middle of all of this division. But as you said, trump might say something derogatory towards her . What should her response to that be . Punch back or stay with the joy . First of all, the theme of her campaign say new way ford. She understands that the american people are sick and tired of the drama that occurred during the trump administration. We woke up every day what the hell did this guy do to america today. People want to turn a new page. Offering a new way forward, a future for everybody that protecting peoples rights and Democracy Versus Trump that is saying he wants to take us back to a dark day when things were not that great. Making it the case. Over and over again. She does that in a joyful way. Not lack of toughness, harris is tough. She is going to speak directly to trump. She will brush him off. In the past. She will not traffic in that. But if he wants to bring a real issue to her she is ready to get after it, she will talk to the american people in a direct way and remind them she is on their side. During the debate, Iron First Velvet Glove . [ laughter ] you are talking to a skilled person who has served in office a very long time and can take care of herself. She will do that. Most importantly she will demonstrate to the american people that she is tough, she is smart, she is normal, which is amaze that you have to say that, and that she is their fighting for them. It will be clear that Donald Trump is fighting for himself. And i think that is why the team insisted that the microphones be off. They themselves want to shut him up. He debated more times than anybody, he is really good at it. Does not follow the rules so it will be hard. She will do fine and she will be well prepared as she always is. You just mentioned the mics will be off. They wanted them to be on from the Harris Campaign, does this mic thing matter, really . Well, at the end of the day it could potentially matter if trump acts in a way that makes it impossible for anybody on the stage to concentrate what is going on. At the end of the day what matters is the difference between these two individuals and the choice that the american people have to make. It is clear. They can go forward, include everybody, protect peoples rights and go backward with trump and to the worst days that america has ever seen. It will be clear after the debate which is which. That poll that i mentioned earlier. A Neck And Neck race with trump. 48 and harris said, for you to understand that is in the margin of error. Why is this race still so close . Let me just say something. This is the way it has been the last president ial elections, that way from the beginning and it am be that way until the end. The Vice President spoken clearly about this to all of our supporters. Dont take it for granted. We are the under dog, go out, secure the democracy, freedom is not free. The way you fight for it. You vote, you convince your folks to vote. This is going to be very, very close. Up and down. At the end of the day we are prepared and organized for this hand to hand combat, we feel that way about the ability get there. Happen if people get up, get off of the couch and take your friends and family with you. The campaign is launching a new nationwide ad called the new way forward. I want to play a clip from that ad. Focus on The Future, the other focused on the past. When the middle class is strong, america is strong. Lowering the Cost Of Living will be a defining goal of my precedency. Why does the campaign think the new way forward will resinate and move voters . Well, that, that particular ad has a number of different messages, trump wants to take us back to a time that was not good for everybody. It is an old tired trove that he has used time and time again. People are tired of it. Talks about the need to make sure we reduce Peoples Cost and make sure that we reduce the burden that americans have had over the last several years. And the Vice President has a clear plan to do that. I think people are looking for The Future rather than the past. That is what this election is about. The one thing has not changed is a convicted criminal. Trump is found liable for Sexual Abuse and as a judge said Quote Unquote rain. He has been found liable for Business Fraud and it just, really, unseenly to put a guy like that close to the precedency. On top of that, 17 cabinet officials and Dick Cheney said he should be around the oval office, that is a Big Red flag of the people of america and the Vice President will bring the Message Home as well. I mentioned earlier, they will Kickoff A Battleground State Tour right after the debate starting in North Carolina. What are they hoping to achieve in the days before voters start to actually hit the polls . I dont know who is watching. Who has been out and who has not. They used to criticize biden of not getting out there, trump is not doing that but tim Walz And Harris will not leave a vote out there. They are going on the third round. Rural areas, not just hand to hand voting but with messages that will resinate in blue states, are red states, rural and urban areas and everywhere in between. Thank you very much, sir. See you in New York New York one of these days yep. Coming up. A new warning from former Congresswoman Liz Cheney to never trump republicans. Not voting for Donald Trump isnt enough. I have the sound off banel ready to break down her familys bold moves it week and more, after the break. Plus, we will dig into nbc News Polling numbers on your voters on there president ial race later in the show. Dont go anywhere race later in the show. Dont go anywhere the worlds 1 sleep aid brand. And wakes up feeling like himself. Get the rest to be your best with nonhabit forming zzzquil. [introspective music] recipes. 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You have many republicans out there who are saying, well, we are not going to vote for him. We will write someone else in. I think that this time around that is not enough. It is important to actually cast a vote for Vice President harris. That was former Congresswoman Liz Cheney earlier today explaining why she and her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney are voting for Kamala Harris and why she says it is time for other republicans to follow their lead. Joining me now to sound off on this and more is stewart stevens, senior advisory to the Lincoln Project and author of the conspiracy to end america in five ways. And a former campaign manager. Stewart some, republicans were on the Sunday Shows downplaying the Cheney Support for harris. Here is what Sara And Senator Cot Inwere saying today. I do think she is significantly in the minority here. You look across the board prominent republicans are supporting President Trump. Dick cheney endorsing a democrat and a kennedy endorsing a republican. I think what it tells us is there is a lot of furment but In The End endorsements will not make a difference. Stewart, are they right . One of the most famous republican families is supporting harris . Reporter the idea that you would have Rfk Junior last seen, you know, committing acts with animals with Dick Cheney, congress, secretary of defense, Vice President for two terms is a little bit absurd. But, majority of republicans are supporting trump. And i think that is all of the more reason why it is important that those of us who dont feel that is the way the party should of gone and thinking he is a mistake needs to support the alternative. One of these two people are going to be president. Mia. Both democrats and republicans sharing their thoughts on what they think Harris And Trump should do on the debate stage. I want you to take a listen to some of the responses here. She is a very focused and disciplined leader. But it will take almost super human Focus And Discipline to deal with Donald Trump in a debate. No ordinary proposition, the less we are talking about him and the more we are talking about you the better it will be for the Vice President i think he needs to let harris talk. Something she has been reluctant to do unless she is reading a teleprompter. I am looking forward to the good Debate Performance that trump had with President Biden and i think he is up to it. So, mia, what are you expect something. I think harris should do what she does well. That is lean into talking about why the Policy Issues that she has been talking about connect to the everyday lives of Working Families. That is what people want to hear. That is what the poll you mentioned earlier saturday, 28 of people still want to hear more. That is what they want to know. Understand what she will do for their families and she does that incredibly well. I think the advice to President Trump that he just needs to sit back and let her speak i think that would help a lot of voters but i think that will would be incredibly bad advise for him. I happening the idea of trump, this debate is an opportunity for hairis and not at all for trump. I think that is harris and not at all trump, i think that is misguided. They want to hear what he will do. We have not heard that. We heard him, he can play to the Hometown Crowd and talk to people who are with him but the people who will be listening on tuesday are the people who have not made up their minds. And, if you dont have a plan for Working Families you dont plan to help Working Families. And i think he needs to point out what he is actually going to do. None of there rambling through it and getting to the end of it and letting people fill in the blanks. He needs to say what he is going to do. If he can not do that people should hear clearly he does not plan on working on their belafl. Stew earth, i want to ask you what do you think that harris has to do to win the debate. That is a debate that we can say, win the debate on Tuesday Night. I think that is a really important point. Walking off stage alive and it is going to be me. I think what she should do is prosecute trump. That is a strength of hers, she does it comfortably. In part, she is Vice President and probably going to be president because of her ability to question witnesses in hearings. And i think you should play to your strength. Dont just prosecute him as being a criminal. That has done. Prosecute him for being a failed president who attempted to overthrow the government of the united states, dont allow him to appear like a normal candidate. This is not like a Romney Or Barack Obama Race where they will argue about policy. One guy is a threat to the united states and american experiment and you should hold him to that standard. So, mia, trump seems to be, once again, trying to undermind confidence in the election. On Social Media he threatened to jail any of his adversaries who cheat, Quote Unquote, and listen to what he said at his rally yes. We have to stop the Cheating F we stop the cheating, we dont let them cheat i dont have to campaign any more we are going to win by so much. What is he trying to do here . Jailing people for voting, since the beginning, is that what is happening here . That is exactly what is happening. This should be the first question on tuesday, it should be every question that every republican who is still supporting him should be answering. This should be disqualifying for him to say so plainly that he plans on jailing his opponents and extending that to voters, to donors, political operatives he is trying to it is voter suppression. He is trying to scare people from the voting process. It should not be treated as, that is just trump melting down on Social Media again. We have to stop this. He has a different bar. We are so used to him spouting nonsense. That is terrifying, everyone who is talking to him ask talking to anyone supporting him should be leading with how do you feel about that . One other thing on this, you know, harris, taking it on both sides shifting positions on sunday. Shifting positions all of the time, right . Constantly. But, Senator Sanders came to Harriss Defense today on Meet The Press today.

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