Cool j on The Beat as we discuss his new album. The reidout is up next. Tonight on the Reidout America is ready for a new way forward. And we are ready for a new generation of leadership that is optimistic, optimistic about what can do for our country together. We agree, we have a duty as citizens to put country above partisanship and defend our constitution. Kamala harris has just wrapped up a whirlwind day of campaigning in North Carolina, her first day back on the trail since Trouncing Donald Trump at the debate. Meanwhile, trump spent the day declaring himself the monumental winner of the debate, fighting with fox hosts who disagreed and spreading racist conspiracies about immigrants eating your pets. You just cant make it up. We begin with the state of the campaign with 54 days to go until the election. Vice president Kamala Harris held two Blockbuster Events in North Carolina today, speaking to massive crowds in greensboro tonight, and in charlotte this afternoon. And leaning into direct attacks on Donald Trumps bizarro Debate Performance. She heads to pennsylvania tomorrow to hold multiple events. Surrogates are also holding events all across the country today, the start of what her campaign is describing as a more aggressive phase of the campaign. They say they want to capitalize on her Debate Performance and that will include releasing new ads featuring key moments from the primetime showdown. Trump also returned to the campaign trail today. He just wrapped up remarks in arizona, a state he lost to president Joe Biden in 2020 by over 10,000 votes. Hes apparently still getting over the sting of his dismal Debate Performance taking his complaints online, pathetically feuding with Fox Trokes for stating what we know to be true, he lost the debate. Hes also childishly declaring people are just starting to give me credit for having a great debate, upping the lie to a monumental victory over Kamala Harris and calling on everyone at Abc News which held the debate to be fired and maybe the networks Broadcast License to be revoked. Boy, this guy really hates to lose. He followed that by announcing to no surprise that there will be no third debate. Im joined now by claire mccaskill, former democratic senator from missouri and msnbc political analyst, jason johnson, professor of politics and journalism at morgan state university, and mark leibovitz, Staff Writer at the Atlantic And Msnbc contributor. Youre the Political Science here and here with me at the table. From a political Science Point of view, lets try to take trump seriously. What is the point of pretending that you didnt lose a debate that everyone has clips of . The value of that is to inspire the cultlike supporters that you have to not give up on you. Its interesting, you. Its not just that he lost the debate, not just that he lost the media battle, that he lost fox news. He never had Taylor Swift and now he lost caitlin clark. Hes doing a very poor job of managing what is usually Something Trump is good at. Hes usually able to take an absolute failure and spin it into something like i planned it all along or this is part of my personality. This has been a real challenge for him. Im not surprised he says i dont want to do a third debate, but its indicative of his own core numbers because a more confident trump would say, hey, that was just a test run. I can take her out again. I think he recognizes this is a Turning Point in the election. He may not be able to turn back. He got mopped. This is what Vice President harris is doing with the debate today. This is her attacking one of the things that Donald Trump said, which was one of the absurd things which is his concepts of a plan, not an actual plan. Here is Vice President harris. Donald trump intends to end the affordable care act. And as he said in the debate, he made clear he has no plan to replace it. In fact, you remember . Concept. You remember. He has, quote, concepts of a plan. Concepts of a plan. I mean, were 54 days from this election. Concepts of a plan. Which means no actual plan. Claire mccaskill, shes having way too much fun. Secondly, you and i both know that no woman could ever get away with saying, i dont have a plan, i have concepts of a plan, let alone a black woman. You were there for the many, many times that republicans attempted to repeal and replace obamacare. They never did it, they never had a plan either. What do you make of the fact that now, his concept of a plan is part of Kamala Harris campaign . Well, it was one of the many moments that you didnt know whether to laugh or cry during the debate. This man has been saying he has a plan for Health Care for nine years. Nine years. Beginning back in 2016, early 2016, and every time he talked about it, he said well have it in two weeks. Well have it in two weeks. At one point when i was in the senate and we were, you know, having these votes, when we had the vote where John Mccain famously saved obamacare, we used to make the joke, were getting the bloodhounds out. Were going to look under desks and in closets because this plan is nowhere to be found. Its not just him, its the entire republican party. The fact hes going back to thinking he can get away with that, thats why this debate was so important. So many things, and when she said you should go to his rallies, what she was really saying is hes retreated to a place where hes comfortable. And the more she does better, and the more she asserts herself, the strength she shows, the more he retreats into that corner. I was shocked today at his rally. When he repeated the very same things that people all over the world and all over america were laughing at him about. Because he was in a room full of his supporters, and he is desperate to get the adulation for the very same things that people are making fun of him about outside of the cult. It is interesting that he doesnt seem to be able, mark, to get off of the script hes written for himself. Which obviously, i think he writes in front of facebook while Doom Scrolling and reading Conspiracy Theories. Here he is today explaining why he shall not debate Vice President harris again. We just dont think its necessary. We won the two. I had one with, as you know, joe. Quite a famous debate, then we had another one the other day, and it was both very successful. In fact, my Poll Numbers went up since the debate. And we think we have discussed everything, and i dont think they want it either. Lets give some data. Reuters ipsos poll, harris leads trump 47 42 in president ial poll debate. She gained. Who won the debate . Harris, 53 . Trump, 24 among voters who said they heard at least something about the debate. Vice president harris has raised 47 Million from nearly 600,000 people in the first 24 hours from the debate. Its her largest 24hour Fundraising Period since the initial burst of donations when she entered the race, and she has Taylor Swift and caitlin clark, but Donald Trump thinks hes winning. Whats happening here . Should we get a Psychologist Or Psychiatrist involved . A long time ago, but i would say that this is the definition of someone, i mean, you would think it was either Denial Or Spin or something. I think its something much more than that, which is hes in a true Echo Chamber of his making. He cannot hear any discouraging news. His people, his closest handlers know that they are not going to last very long if they give him any bad news whatsoever. Any objectively bad news about how he performed in the debate, any truth telling about how he is. So that caters to his denial. That actually reenforces his denial and you have more of the same, as we saw today. Actually, theres no ability whatsoever to pivot to a more, you know, to a different track, which he obviously needs after the other night. Right, the same way he treated his election loss. He did grow up and the only church hes ever been to is the church of the power of positive thinking but here is someone who would tell him the truth, Frank Luntz. Here he is saying Donald Trump lost the debate. Did you think kamala won, and does that mean she might now win the election . I think more accurately is that Donald Trump lost. And this is not the worst Debate Performance i have seen in my career. But its very close to it. Im trying to decide if i want to go on record, and the answer is yes. I think that he loses because of this Debate Performance. Wow. Im going to set aside the fact it looks like he had been through a night of heavy drinking and looks really upset about what hes saying, but even Frank Luntz who is a republican pollster, whose goal is to make republicans look good, is like yeah, he lost, and hes going to lose the whole thing. Frank luntz clearly just raided steve Bannons Closet and the same makeup. Steve bannon, isnt he in jail . His closet is available. Heres the thing, Republicans Saurld sow how bad this was. And the problem is rather than turning themselves into the underdogs and saying hey, were going to compete, you have trump out there saying drake after Finding Kendrick has the Super Bowl, ill let you have that but im coming back for you. No, you lost. The Super Bowl is done. It was that debate. You have now lost. Instead of being capable of spinning the narrative in a way that says, were down now, abc was against us but now were going to fight back. Theyre trying to create a new reality. In a couple weeks we have Jd Vance against tim walz, and thats going to be worse. And so i dont know what theyre trying to do in the next couple weeks because at this point, frankly, if i were a Senate Candidate as a republican or a house candidate, i would be backing away from the top of the ticket because this looks like its going to crash. Thats a great question, claire. Youre in touch with some of your republican friends. Are people starting to worry that were going to have down ballot issues, that they will have down ballot issues for republicans because of trump . Is he now a drag on the whole ticket downstream . Well, well see. I think we dont want to get too far ahead of ourselves. These are still really close races in the Swing States where there are the Battleground Senate races also. You should know up until now, and even as late as just a few days ago, almost every battleground state, trump was running ahead of the republican Senate Candidates. So i dont listen, he is in a position where he has been defeated in a debate and hes not being told the truth about it, and he thinks that lying has served him so well in his life. Using false hyperbole like everyone knows shes a marxist. All the legal scholars wanted to overturn roe v. Wade, everyone wanted roe v. Wade to go back to the states, all of the absolutes he uses that are lies. Hes most comfortable there because its what hes done his whole life. And if he wont let anybody be around him that tells him the truth, hes going to stay in that comfort zone, and those rallies are his sweet spot. He goes back to the tired stuff. After they had a Bomb Threat at City Hall in springfield, ohio, today, he goes back to the cruel, baseless allegation that legal immigrants from haiti are doing unspeakable things in the community. Which by the way, we all laugh at, but its cruel and its racist. Absolutely. It is particularly cruel to those families that are working hard and playing by the rules and grateful to have legal status in this great country. So the fact that he was comfortable going back to the same lines about them stealing pets, he said today, theyre taking all the geese. Now, in an isolation, we can all roll with laughter about that, but when you look at it first, hes comfortable saying it. And second, how mean and horrible it is. Its the underbelly hes exposing. And i dont think the polling is going to get better for him, but his Cult Base is locked in. Anytime he loses it was rigged. All you have to do is look at social media today, and even hugh hewitt, who used to appear on this network, was saying today that everyones realizing he won the debate because its going to be overturned in the booth. It was rigged. The refs were rigged. And you know, it is really depressing that people are stooping to that level, but thats whats going on. I think it doesnt help regular order republicans, and well come back after the break and ill go to you, mark, but it doesnt help regular order republicans that people like alberto gonzalez, where he says theres little Evidence Trump has the Integrity And Responsibility to wield the power of the presidency within the limits of the law. No amount of rationalization to support trump will change that. But he served in the bush administration. Karl rove, bushs brain, there is no putting lipstick on the pig. Trump was crushed by a woman he previously dismissed as dump as a rock. Were going to talk about the lie about haitian migrants and whether the disdain of Old School republicans actually helps trump with his base, and well. Do that. Dont go anywhere. Hat. Dont go anywhere. In studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. Im under 7. 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What should remain in the dark recesses is now broadcast to millions of people because Donald Trump is basically your fox loving grandpa who Doom Scrolls on facebook and lacks the mental acuity, but hes the racist grandpa seeking your votes. Were learning this Peteating Nonsense was a planned Debate Tactic for trump to use against Vice President harris. It was reported, quote, if the madeerators Hit Him for spreading a baseless Urban Legend about haitian immigrants eating cats in the small city of springfield, ohio, the expresident was supposed to execute a classic ropeadope strategy. He would dodge the Punch And Place the blame on town locals and then pivot to attacking Vice President Kamala Harris over the toll of immigration in springfield. Instead, as we all saw, Trump Wasnt able to execute the tactic because he, like the proverbial