Questions, well jump in. Plus Kamala Harris leaving for pennsylvania where her Campaign Plans to pinpoint critical slivers of the electorate including Polish American voters. Will that be the key to winning the biggest prize on the Swing State board. And russia accused half a dozen british diplomats of Spying And Sabotage and kicked them out of the country just as President Biden is about to meet with them at the White House. What does the timing of all it tell us. We start with Donald Trumps unfounded claims about migrant crime and new details showing a national Neonazi Group had a Hand In helping spread the claims all the way to the former president. Despite being told those stories are baseless and false, Donald Trump kept repeating them, at the debate and at a rally and when a reporter asked him where he got that information well thats come from stories and television and some of the pets, i dont know, Cats Dogs or both, but some of the pets were taken by the migrants. And it is a shame. It is sad. And beyond that, 20,000 migrants have moved into a community and these people are doing a lot of damage. And the people in the community are not happy and we dont want to that to happen to arizona. It is unclear what if any impact any of this will have on the president ial race. A new Reuters Poll done after the debate shows Kamala Harris leading 47 to 42 . That is still within the margin of error. But a senior researcher with the southern Poverty Law Center tells Nbc News, either way it is a win for groups spreading hate. I want to bring in Garrett Haake who is with the former president in california. Peter baker is New York Times white House Correspondent and brandy is a Senior Report Fresh Nbc News who covers Mirs Information and extremism. It is good to have all of you here. So garrett, he said he knows won in 2016 because of the border and if not the top issue this year. Treaticly, is he happy to dominate a News Cycle because believes those oun founded claims . Is this a strategy, a thoughtful strategy . Chris, i think if you squint hard enough at this to borrow a phrase from the debate, you could see the concept of a plan for a strategy here for Donald Trump. You touched on it. He believes immigration and relatedly crime are two the issues that will drive this race. What he saw here and in his rightwing Fever Swamp on the internet where this story became promoted spoke to what his bases fears are about migrant crime in this country. Now of course it has not turned out to be true. But Donald Trump was eager to embrace it during the debate on tuesday. Im told that his staff was not surprised that this was something that he talked about. And i think now it is become an issue where he and his campaign are going to have to decide, perhaps as soon as a few minutes from now, when this what is described as a Press Conference, well see again if he takes questions, gets underway behind me. If this is an issue he wants to continue to focus on or if hes ready to try to change the subject. If his strategy here was to get people focused on haitian immigration or illegal immigration which is not the case in springfield, ohio, or any of the other ancillary issues, that has not been the outcome here. Were fact checking the claims and talking about the Community And Damage that it has done in that community. I think well find out in real time very shortly whether Donald Trump thinks this is a strategy still that he wants to pursue, chris. So peter, hes not just talking about it. Hes posting about it. Images of cats that say dont let them eat us. Vote for trump. Your paper, the New York Times wrote this. Quote, theyre over the Cop Imagery gives them a field of an inside joke a just kidding implies, circulating debunk material to get in on it. The reality is beside the point. I mean, is it Tongue And Cheek . Because obviously peter, if you ask people in springfield where theyve had Bomb Threats at City Hall Yesterday and white supports have rallied, so what is going on. Reality has never been the basis of a Donald Trump campaign. Reality is what he said it is. If you dont think that cats and dogs have been eaten, that is your problem as far as hes concerned. Hes spinning a narrative, a country under invasion from people outside of the country, from the southern border who are moving into your neighborhoods an taking your jobs, theyre taking your resources and your pets now. And if there are Fact Checker Bhoz are going to nitpick about the specifics, it doesnt matter. It all fits in there. What is striking about this, i mean, ive been watching a bunch of trump rallies for a story and im struck by how much immigration is the dominant topic of every single one, no matter what it is supposed to be about. He may talk about inflation or talk about foreign policy, or whatever, but it keeps coming back again and again and again throughout the rallies to immigration. It is like a one issue campaign. He thinks that is a salient, it galvanizes his base and generates anger and motivates people to vote. So he thinks it is a winner and hes going to keep talking about it. But it is it is a gamble obviously because a lot of americans value immigration and dont see it the same way that he does. Im going to admit i didnt watch the whole rally but i think it went about 70 minutes and several reports were that a vast majority was about immigration so that is exactly what youre talking about. Brandy, lets deal with reality. Let talk facts. What could you tell us about this Neonazi Group that seems to be proud of this fact that they have a major Hand In moving this debunked claim, racist claim forward. Yeah, there springfield, ohio there is a group that is a Neonazi Group and theyre operated by two former marines and they go to communities where there is some sort of discord, where last year it was drag story hour, would you see white nationalists marching with swastikas. And that year weve seen them in harrisburg, pennsylvania, in springfield, ohio. They were trying to get into the antiimmigration, the topic is so hot right now, so white nationalists know that too and theyve been appearing at springfield rallies and springfield City Council meetings an making threatening speeches and online making memes and pushing these angry racist rhetoric. But usually that is where it stops. For this time, for some reason, j. D. Vance and Donald Trump have promoted the claims and refused to back down. So for these white nationalists, these mission accomplishes. I recommend people read your column. It is so great. But one of the people said, correct me if this is not the exact quote, this is what power looks like. This is motivating for them. That they believe that something they put out there has made its way to the former president and republican nominee. And hes saying it every single day. Yeah, if you remember that moment during the last debate, the former debate where Donald Trump mentioned the proud boys and said stand back and Stand By. It is a very similar thing. Where the tiny groups that operate on the internet and go and terrorize smul communities. On the internet, that is where it is expected to stay. They dont expect that the Wouldbe President would amplify these claims. So for them, again, this is really like christmas. They seek to recruit, to intimidate, to strike fear in the hearts of people in these communities and to move the gop further, further towards extremism. That is their stated goal. And with this, a researcher told me theyve absolutely the Poverty Law Center. Theyve succeeded. So peter to your point, the president has said wild things and trafficked in Conspiracy Theories since he began running for office. Hes gone after migrants, that is for sure. Countless times in the past. I guess the key question for 2024 nor november is whether peoples appetite, and im talking about the undecided, these middle voters who will decide this election, if their appetite is markedly different than it was in 2016, if this ends up hurting and not helping him. Yeah, i mean, look, it works for his base obviously. This is a Base Election as it often is with Donald Trump and he is speaking to people who agree with him and agree the border has been a disaster for a long time, the biden administration there were very high rates of people coming over the border and that did create a hardship on a lot ever communities. That is for real. Theyre not eating cats and dogs. But the numbers have fallen so it is back to the lows that they were when biden took office, when trump gave up office. And i think that the people he needs to win, he needs to win over in order to get past the 45 or so that hes got in order to get a win, arent motivated by that in the same way. So that is the real trick. Is it about getting turnout among people who are already persuaded by him or reaching out to people who havent been persuaded by him so far. So i want to bring in Carlos Carillo and i want to play what the former president said just the other day. As the people of arizona understand better than anyone else, under Kamala Harris our country is under a thing called invasion. Did you ever hear the word invasion. Like a military. It is like a military invasion. Were being conquered and were being occupied by a foreign element. When youre talking about a race so close, where in Swing States like in arizona and nevada, it could be decided by migrants. Does It Rhetoric has the potential to hurt him with voters even if it helps him with his base. What is your take on it . Chris, i think peter made this point and it is important to highlight it. Immigration is an issue where republicans can and should be on offense. It is one of the great weaknesses of the bidenharris administration. We could take a look at any poll to confirm that. The problem with Donald Trump is that he doesnt just go on offense, sometimes he becomes offensive in discussing immigration in particular. And the very few undecided Swing Voters that are out there, reject that kind of rhetoric. They do not want to hear people being denigrated. They dont want to hear people being dehumanized. They want to know what the solutions are for a better immigration system. So Donald Trump once again is showing why he is his own worst enemy. Well there is another level to this, i think, peter, which is we talk about this a lot yesterday, that a wellknown conspiracy theorist, Laura Loomer traveled with the president. She was i think in the Spin Room after the debate. She was with him on 9 11. A visit to a firehouse, Shes Someone who has known to deny what we know are the fakes about 9 11. And now, while all of this is happening, all of this conversation, South Dakota governor Kristi Noem who made headline this is spring for shooting her puppy is caming for Trump Today in pennsylvania. You cant make this stuff up, peter. No, you cant. Look it is the people he surrounds himself with that hes decided hes going to say these are the folks i want representing my campaign. It said something that Laura Loomer who said 9 11 was an inside job. That in fact other people would have been around trump for all of these years including Lindsey Graham and Marjorie Taylor Greene are saying shes too far. That is too across a line that we shouldnt cross. So hes increasingly trafficked in rightwing Conspiracy Theories, Fringe Groups and so on, particularly since leaving office. Even more so i think than he did in his time as president. And it may be because they were the most loyal to him as he saw it in the days when he was being shunned by established republicans january 6. If youre loyal to him, that is all he cares about, no matter what your political views may be. He had a white supremacist to maralago and talking about Hitler Wasnt so bad. And willing to work with or traffic with or familiarize himself with people like this without any consequence to him and i think that is seen all over again this week with who hes traveling with. Brandy, thank you so much and you should read her reporting at msnbc. Com and carlos and peter are staying with me. Antony blinken will be in the Tate Department Room and well take you there. And why putin is expelling all britain diplomats from russia. All of that is Coming Up after this. Russia all of that is Coming Up after this izon business. kevin now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. aaron so whatevers next. Were cooking with fire. Vo Switch to the partner businesses rely on. The virus that causes shingles is sleeping. In 99 of people over 50. Its lying dormant, waiting. And could reactivate. Shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. And it could wake at any time. Think youre not at risk for shingles . Its time to wake up. Because shingles could wake up in you. If youre over 50, talk to your Doctor Or Pharmacist about shingles prevention. Russia has expelled six british diplomats that are accused spying and attempted to sabotage the War Efforts against ukraine. The timing is notable because Keir Stormer is in Washington Meeting with President Biden and the two are expected to discuss whether to allow ukraine to use long range missiles to strike deep within russia. Peter bake ser still with us. He spent years living in moscow covering the rise of vladimir Putin And Andrea mitchell is here. And any minute now were expecting to hear from Secretary Of State Antony Blinken. But what do we know about the conversations taking place in the White House today. Most of the conversation this is afternoon with the british Prime Minister, meeting with biden and theyre going to be discussing the long range weapons. We understand there is no announcement today. The british an the french has been pushing hard for the u. S. To lift its restrictions, handcuffing basically Volodymyr Zelenskyy from firing u. S. Made Atacms Deep Into russia. The british and the french think that this restriction should not be made on them and they have weapons, comparable weapons and theyre willing to do it, there is an effort to get the allies to be unanimous about this, to present a United Front against putin. He has threatened this is a escalation of war whether they take that seriously or not. This is a close call based on the intel of how putin will react. He think biden should go along with this but were talking about the british weapons, not the u. S. Weapons. Peter, Given The Red Line that vladimir putin has drawn, how tough a Balancing Act that Joe Biden needs to do here with our allies. Well, look, weve seen this Balancing Act all along. And which the biden administration, president has tried to somehow find that magic line, where he could supply ukraine with weapons it needs and wants to wage war to defend its own country without escalating the war beyond its borders to nato countries to a nuclear kind of confrontation. That is the bottom Line Worry for President Biden more than anything else, this becomes World War iii. So each time, the president has withheld weapons and then provided them and it doesnt lead to the escalation he feared and then he should be moving for aggressively and quickly. It is a little different ifn that were now talking about weapons being used against russian territory and for putin that a whole other red line. And so i think there is a debate. The department said theyre against allowing the long range weapons to be used in russian territory because they dont think it will be effective, that the russian air bases that are in question are beyond the range of these weapons anyway. So it would be provocative without accomplishing when the ukrainians want to accomplish. So it is a tough choice here once again for the president. So that meeting is going to happen later in afternoon. In the meantime, andrea, what could you tell us about the british diplomats expelled. This is an ongoing problem for the brits and they are expelling russian diplomats from the u. K. For spying for intelligence operations. So, that is typically as peter well knows, ebb was in the moscow bureau, this is a titfortat. Something that the u. S. Did when they found russian spies here. President obama expelled them. Then the brits expelled people from our embassy in mock ow. John sullivan or Brand Ambassador under Donald Trump and Joe Biden to our embassy in moscow, he barely had a driver to take him places. They didnt have local staff because they kicked so many people from the u. S. Embassy out, even the civilian nonforeign service officers. So this is going to kick off a rise in tension. Of course, this is a new british Prime Minister and a new administration completely in the u. K. And this is their first official meeting later in afternoon in washington. That is surely going to come up. There is also pending action, we understand, against russian propaganda interfering with the elections. Weve heard from the cia, from the director of national intelligence, from the Justice Department and the State Department was expected to take some action against the state owned r. T. Im expecting, im sorry, im expecting to hear more about that when we hear from Antony Blinken. In the meantime, we shouldnt forget, are we a week, ten day as head of the u. N. General assembly and ukraines president said hes going to have a Peace Plan to present to President Biden, to Kamala Harris, to Donald Trump. What do we know about that and how it may fit into the overall situation right now . Yeah, it is a good question. There is not an appetite at this point for negotiations, serious negotiations to end this war no matter what Donald Trump said. Donald trump repeated at this weeks debate that he could end the war in 24 hours simply by getting on the phone with putin and zelenskyy.