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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight September 15, 2024

We miss her every day. Thank you gang. You can catch the Night Cap saturday. Before that, at 9 00 p. M. Eastern tomorrow, make sure to Watch Msnbc live. Democracy 2024. You can catch awesome conversations with me, rachel maddow, lawrence odonnell, jen psaki. The whole crew. About this historic election. For now, for all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with us, see you at The End of monday. Well. Today started yet again with news of Bomb Threats in springfield, ohio. Yesterday two Elementary Schools and the city hall, the dmv and the County Court facilities had to close because of Bomb Threats. Today, two Elementary Schools were evacuated. In the wake of viral Social Media posts claiming haitian migrants were abducting peoples pets in springfield in order to eat them. I should note the claims about haitian migrants eating pets in springfield are lies. There is no evidence to back up any of those claims. But that does not seem to matter. Heres the thing. A week ago today, on all of twitter, there were only about 1,000 posts mentioning haitians migrants or immigrants eating animals. Twitter is a very big place. So this was truly a fringe Conspiracy Theory. During the president ial debate tuesday night, trump used his microphone to bring that Conspiracy Theory to the 67 Million people watching live. And now, kids are being pulled from Elementary School classrooms and canine units are sweeping the citys buildings from bombs. And right wing influencers from all over the country have descended On Springfield To Quote Unquote Report on this completely fabricated lie. You may be wondering how did this particular Conspiracy Theory get to Donald Trump in the first place . As it turns out, it is hard to say. Because trump has surrounded himself with so many toxic fringy advisers that the pool of potential Conspiracy Theorists is just too large. Look at a few of the People Trump surrounded himself with on the night of the debate. You may know her as Libs Of Tiktok. Libs of tiktok is famous for pushing Antilgbtq Content that has led to the harassment of teachers and librarians and doctors across the country. Bomb threat theres a few years ago. It is quite a resume. The woman behind Libs Of Tiktok is one of the People Trump had in his Inner Circle on debate night. She is also one of the people who pushed the lie about haitian migrants eating pets. So thats one Place Trump may have gotten us. But beyond the trump war room, look at Who Trump is traveling with. Someone who was with him backstage and came with him into the spin room. Lets talk about Laura Loomer. You may know her from her attempt to say that the Parkland Shooting was a hoax. Or from when she handcuffed herself thanks to twitters corporate headquarters wearing a yellow star of david on her chest to protest being banned by the site in 2018. That was before Elon Musk took over. Loomer and trump have been joined at the hip all this week. She was pushing the lie about haitian migrants. Just before pushing this Pet Eating Conspiracy before spending this week with trump, a week ago today, Laura Loomer ate Dog Food on her Show Loomer unleashed. No pun intended. I think. Today for what is, whatever its worth, trump tried to distance himself from her sort of. Laura is a supporter. I dont control laura. She has to say what she wants. I know she is a big fan of the campaign. Is she an adviser . I would say that she brings the spirit. If you ignore all the radicals and weird Os Trump has surrounded himself with. This conspiracy is there. Jd vance himself was pushing this thing. From Social Media to his social life to his professional Inner Circle, trump has surrounded himself with Conspiracy Theorists or at the very least people who are willing to push Conspiracy Theories in bad faith for personal or political gain. Because of the way the Republican Party is now structured, once Donald Trump embraces something, well then, everyone else does, too. And trump is making sure his whole party feels welcome on this particular bandwagon. He was posting memes about it online. As the New York Times put it today, the memes give the feel of an inside joke. A just kidding is implied. Allowing political figures who might otherwise have hesitated to circulate debunked material to get in on it. And get in on it they sure did. Texas Senator Ted Cruz posted this image of cats with the subtitle please vote for trump so haitian immigrants dont eat us. He posted that with three laughing emojis. Even the official account got in on it. The house judiciary committee. In arizona, The States Republican Party brought the memes into the real world putting up 12 billboards around phoenix that read eat less kittens. Vote republican. While they are all laughing at the memes, there are real Human Beings in springfield feeling the consequences. People who are now only sharing their stories anonymously because they are too scared for their lives to identify themselves. [ Spe Aking in a global language ] but hey, Jd Vance said not to let the Cry Babies and the Medias Dissuade you. Keep the cat memes flowing. Joining me now, tim, thank you for being here. To help us all figure out what exactly has happened. I feel the inherent nihilism of Maga World and the trolls that surround it. It is a dark twisted sick game with decidedly real world consequences here for the brown people in this country. Let me read you a quote from the New York Times about how this was a natural evolution of trumpism. The mix of right wing politics, taboo shattering Transgression Fit with the discontent of the internets wilder fringes. This is a marriage that was sort of inevitable. It was. And look, we all saw this in 2016. As somebody who was an anti Trump Republican back then, i was awash in Social Media and people sending sexually explicit memes, homophobic memes. It was out there on 4chan or whatever and trump elevated it and brought to the mainstream back then. We are seeing this now. Evolve and grow offline as well. I decided there is somebody that said it better than i could. So i wanted to pull this up if you dont mind. Here is Jd Vance, october 9, 2016. Trump makes people i care about afraid. Immigrants, muslims. Because of this, i find him represence able. God wants better of us. So, everything that Jd Vance said then is exactly right. People, god wants better than you. And the fact that Jd Vance is like the Lead Instigator of this now, the fact he demonstrated in 2016 that he knows that there are ramifications for this kind of rhetoric. Encouraging others saying you are a patriot if you post these racist cat memes. Shows just the deep Corrupting Darkness of maga and of Trumps Influence on our party. Or my former party and our politics. I tend to see a direct through line. This no cost cruelty. No cost in their eyes. And the focus of it is immigrants, brown people who shouldnt be herement we are at the point where that kind of nihilism, that kind of toxicity, that kind of dehumanization is something embraced by just regular old republicans in the party. Not even people running for office. But just everyone jumps in on that bandwagon. It was just straight racism. Haitian migrants are eating cats or whatever. This isnt a dog whistle. It isnt a clever, i guess its a joke, but a straight racist joke. You cant imagine a scenario where they are pushing something about ukrainian migrants or belgian immigrants who are coming here and they are like oh, these people are abducting your dogs and eating them. They would never say that. You cant imagine what that would sound like. Which reveals just how plainly racist it is. And the fact that not only are many of the republicans getting in on it, but nobody is saying anything, back in 2016, 2018, in the early years of trump. There would be some republicans in congress that would say this grosses me out. I still like him for the policies. I dont like the tweets. You got at least that. You dont even get that now. The verbal acknowledgment that they know it is wrong. The party is fully on board for the grossest Conspiracy Mongering and racism. And now you see that this sort of, the Side Show of the Internet Lunatics is finding a place in the Inner Sanctum of the trump campaign. The fact that Laura Loomer is on the plane and at the 9 11 memorial. It tells you everything you need to know about where trump is headed on all of this. I think she said she would be fine being the trump press secretary. If he wins. That may seem like a twisted parody of what Trump Administration 2. 0 might look like, but that is an actual prospect. I wonder what you make of Marjorie Taylor Green of all people and Lindsey Graham sounding notes of caution about trump getting too close to Laura Loomer. Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene called loomers Comments Racist and Lindsey Graham has i believe also cautioned trump to keep his distance. But not in those words. First of all, how true do those Words Ring coming from Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lindsey Graham . I guess greene is right on this one. Broken clocks and all. This whole thing, the whole thing is kind of absurd. Right . That these congressional republicans, oh, theres a racist Conspiracy Monger on the Trump Plane yeah. The person whose name is on the side of the plane fits that description. Loomer is off the deep end. It is insane. You could not imagine any other nominee of any party having something of this nature be invited onto the plane. Usually you invite the local mayors. Religious leaders or something. This crazy Internet Troll is the american person that gets invited with them to multiple stops is lunacy. An it is not crazy. Thats the people he is keeping around. The most online members of the party were the ones around him. Sitting next to him. They are the more normal end of the spectrum. Like, thats how crazy things have gotten. I think it bears mentioning the left has memes too. The Coconut Tree thing. I think we have examples of that. There was a joke about Jd Vance and a couch. The difference being couches are not people. Jd vance is, but he can defend himself and nobody believed any of those memes were actually real. They were not bomb threating being called in. The toxicity and poison. It is just sort of, it is so segregated to that wing. And not the other side of the aisle. They want to be cruel to people. The Jd Vance Couch Meme which i didnt really love. But, the point you are making fun of the politician. Right . And so, have a little bit of leeway there. Spoofing people in power, theres a long history of this. It goes all the way back to the beginning of this country. That is win the normal bounds of politics. Creating Fake Conspiracy Narratives was totally lies. Like black people eat dogs. You would never say that about any other group. It is plainly due to race and immigrant status. Yes. That is only happening on one side of the aisle, one political party and there is no reason to pretend otherwise. Tim miller, it is always good to talk to you even when the Subject Matter is deeply distressing. Thank you for spending your Friday Night here. Coming up, Kamala Harris tries to woo voters in two pennsylvania counties Donald Trump won in 2020. We will tell you all about that. 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But there is someone who will likely benefit from this Donald Trump. Who is currently tied with Kamala Harris. That is an achievement given that Barack Obama has been the only democratic nominee to win North Carolina in nearly 50 years, the Harris Campaign believes it has a chance but only if people can actually vote. The latest peas is entitled Rfk Jr. Has sabotaged early voting in a critical swing state. Mark, it is so great to see you, i think a lot of people had no idea what was happening in North Carolina and indeed, there are some developments tonight. But lets just first rewind to the outset of all of this. Rfj jr. Wants to get off the ballot in The State. A transparently partisan maneuver to help the guy he endorsed. Donald trump, and the courts decide hey, why not . Can you talk a little bit about the process by which this happened . He waited days after the deadline in North Carolina to remove his name from the ballot. And then he filed this overdue request. The Election Board said hey, we actually cant accommodate this. We have already printed millions of ballots. We have designed more than 2,300 ballots for every individual county and locality. We have to send them out under State Law by September 6th. It will take us 23 days at least to do this. So we just cant accommodate what you are asking of us. He went to court and secured a 43 decision by the North Carolina Supreme Court. A court controlled by elected republicans who issued i think a lawless and rather shameless decision. Accusing the Election Board and The States very Hard Working and underpaid election officials of engaging in misconduct of attempting to undermind his request because they somehow didnt read his mind and anticipate earlier he would seek to withdraw his name from the ballot. The state Supreme Court ordered the County Board of elections to violate the law. To violate State Law. Which requires unambiguously they go out by September 6th to destroy 3 Million ballot as you said to redesign more than 2,300 ballots and try to do all of this before the federal deadline of September 21st which congress has said these ballots have to go out to overseas and military voters. Now tonight, the State Board of elections is saying that they have raced to accommodate this order. They have purchased Special Printers and stationed them around The State to reprint millions of ballots. They will spend probably millions of dollars to try to get these ballots out by September 24th to the general public. That means they will start going out more than two weeks after they were required to. They are still encouraging people to do all this as fast as possible. Because they dont know if they will be able to run this as smoothly as they hoped. It is a key part of it. I believe in Wake County alone it will cost 300,000. 55,000 in durham county. Election workers have to work through the weekend to accommodate Rfk Jr. a proxy for trump. Howdies tubbed are you by the decision of The State Supreme

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