Character of the people you choose to leave the country, because otherwise they could be the Enof The Republic and that is a statement that really haunts me now. Let me ask you quick even though i am out of time, were there any points during filming when you, or the crew,. For your safety among these protesters, calling for the results to be changed in Trumps Favor . No, i think we have all seen far worse. There were a lot of guys running around, but they dont scare us. All right. All right, tough guy, also known as dan reed. Thank you so much. The film is stealing the steal. Best of luck with that. Thank you. And you can watch the hbo original documentary, and it will be there soon, very soon for you to watch. So, in moments, the Road Map of a rumor and how it became the big moment in a president ial debate. Esidential. Good day to all you from Msnbc World headquarters in new york. Welcome, everyone, to Alex Witt Reports and we began with decision 2024, 52 days to until election day. Vice president Kamala Harris is attending events in washington, d. C. Today. Her running mate, thomas, is in wisconsin. Senator Jd Vance is in , north carolina. New this hour, a plan by the Harris Campaign to target blue states. We will have more on that in just a moment. Also new today, the fallout on Donald Trumps repeated lies aboutte haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio. One democratic Party Official says the backlash is grrippling through state as far away as florida. Dont sleep on florida, folks. Florida, florida, florida. Every time they go after one of these groups and communities, ou the pockets of the communities are inside crucial states. Al my phone is blowing up with Haitian Americans calling me saying, what are you gonna do about these republicans coming after their communities . Early voting in person starts in pennsylvania monday. Yesterday, Vice President harris made campaign stops in Da Johnstown and wilkesbarre, warming voters of the economic impacts of msnbcs plans. Donald trump looks at billionaires and massive corporations for Tax Cuts like t he did before. He intends to cut social Security And Medicare Boo and he wants to impose what i call the trump Sales Tax on every day basic necessities, which economists have reviewed and said it would cost the average family 4000 a year. Ag trunk, meanwhile, spoke in Las Vegas Last Night where he announced plans to, quote, liberate the country. Ote, when i return to the White House i will launch a special task force, elite federal Law Enforcement and charge them with crushing and eliminating every organized crime network. Lets go back another 300 years. We are going to liberate our country did you ever think i would be standing here, it is a hell of a way to get elected. We have a number of reporters and analysts in place for all these new Developments L and we start with kamala Aaron Gilchrist at the White House. Hr you have new developments on the Campaign Schedule for Vice President harris. Do you want to share them . It will be a busy couple of days for Vice President harris and governor walz. The Vice President is technically not campaigning today although she will appear at an event tonight. The original black Caucus Foundation Dinner here in washington. President biden is expected to r speak there, as well. It is also happening in tandem with the release by the campaign, information about 3 Million in spending on Spanish Language radio is rolling out this weekend, as well. I do want you to hear a little bit about what Vice President harris had to say on the Campaign Trail in pennsylvania yesterday. She talked a lot about the things we have heard her speak about before, economic opportunity, but there was one Part Yesterday that was new was something we had not heard in before related to college education. Lets listen. I will also make sure good paying jobs are available to all americans, not just those with college degrees. Our nation needs to recognize the value of other paths, additional paths, such as apprenticeships and technical programs. So as president , i will get rid of the unnecessary degree requirements for federal jobs. [ applause ] to increase jobs understanding that requiring a certain degree does not necessarily talk about ones skills. [ applause ] reporter and so the campaign has indicated that message is part of the Vice President s message around helping to create opportunities for the middle class. We also see her lean into, next week, the Idea Building coalitions. On tuesday the Vice President on will travel to pennsylvania again, that critical battleground state. She will be in philadelphia, wi speaking with the national association of black journalists. You might remember she was invited to their conference over the summer and was not r able to attend but former President Trump did speak there. Di the Vice President had a Fireside Chat with the organization before coming back in washington, where she will speak at the hispanic congressional Caucus Institutes Conference here in washington on thursday. She will travel to michigan and join trump for a personal conversation, it will be a virtual conversation with some of these groups that held the zoom calls, if you will, over the last couple weeks, since Vice President harris became the nominee, it is all the organizations coming together for one event. Ng she will wrap up the week in wisconsin, alice, really, i think, making the point again, these Battleground States are critically important to the campaign and their strategy, in a significant way, has been for the Vice President to show up in these places, physically show up and try to reach out to voters in that way, both voters who are on the fence and voters who, maybe have leaned M Republican in the past that may be gettable, if you will, for the harriswalz campaign. Aaron gilchrist, thank you so much for the White House. Joining me now is Maggie Vespa in springfield, ohio, outside the hospital that received Bomb Threats following the false claims by former President Trump and his runningn mate about haitian immigrants. Tell us about the impact on what is happening in the local community. Reporter yeah, alex, we r actually have an update since we last spoke. We learned that a special Second Hospital was also targeted by a bomb threat, Ea Springfield regional medical center, let the car go by, basically the same story, they got a call earlier this morning from local police say the hospital had been targeted. Police came and searched the premises and found nothing suspicious. This is day three, three es straight days of Bomb Threats in the small, kind of factory , town here in ohio. The last couple of days it was schools and government buildings. The fbi said they were looking into that. All of this stemming from, City Officials are adamant, this baseless, online Conspiracy Theory that haitian immigrants, there is a large population is here in springfield, our kidnapping and eating peoples pets. City officials are adamant, again, they say that is t completely false. There is no evidence of that. There are no reports of that. That being said, they just found an incredible lie that was repeated by President Trump on the Debate Stage early this week to become a staple for him on the Campaign Trail. President biden was at, actually, a black Excellence Event Yesterday and was, after, he spoke after about a black haitianamerican, he actually touched on what is happening here in springfield, kind of that broader Ripple Effect thato it is having. Here is what he had to say. I want us to take a moment to say something like so many americans, like karine, proud haitianamerican, communities under attack in our country right now is simply wrong. T there is no place in america. This has to stop what he is doing. It has to stop. Reporter and, and we are hearing similar statements, alice, local officials, local authorities just saying like the scene is like insanity to them and it is frightening, these springfield communities, the thousands of patients have come into the city legally, by the way, they are here legally under temporary protected status for Factory Jobs in the y low cost of living. Now they tell Nbc News they are terrified. A lot of them are keeping their kids home from school. One family woke up to their windows smashed and acid thrown on their car. They say they are afraid to be in their own community. We actually, alice, have a Ct Community Meeting of haitians later on tonight where perhaps for the first time we expect to hear some people speak about, s at least publicly, how this has impacted them. It is really terrifying a lot of people and this relatively small ohio town, alex. Yeah, i am just sitting here stunned, shaking my head as you are reporting. Maggie vespa, thank you so much for doing so. Joining me now is a professor from Columbia University and former Executive Director of the new York State decoratedademocratic party and former aide to former Vp Candidate paul ryan. I want to remind people how far removed Trump Or Vance are from anyone who had firsthand knowledge of these rumors. The woman who initially made wo the FaceBook Paste this my post said she is now filled with regret. She heard it from a friend of a friend of a neighbor and so on, right . I mean, are voters seeing the utter disregard for fact in the Trump Campaign . Well mitt has existed for quite some time. You know what, what we talked about before, the nature of what trump will say in response. He will say something and therefore, you know, the control over the narrative, he will say, you know, i didnt say it. I heard it from somebody else. I mean, come on. You are a national political leader. You have a platform where what you say does matter. You know, he has never really, back in 2016, he felt believing in these Conspiracy Theories, some felt that young people were being trafficked at a B Pizzeria in washington, d. C. And when you think about the magnitude, i have said it a number of times before but we have never heard it from the mouth of a president ial nominee. It is disgusting, shameful and has realworld consequences for peoples actual lives. That is what fowe are seeing pl out right now. Brendan, on the day that the City Hall was evacuated, trump was posting memes like this. There you go. He was asked if he would stop spreading misinformation because of the danger it be caused. He did not answer. He said the real problem is at the border. Does trump not understand his words have Ripple Effects . Is he not care or, worse, does he intentionally do it . Yeah, im glad you raised that. That was a remarkable moment. It was pointed out to him that schoolchildren are being evacuated from the classrooms because of the comments he is making and he showed absolutely no remorse, right . Ut i think it is important, it is not just that, you know, the online chatter that made its way to him, there is strategic importance to the Trumonp S in country because you Cant Talk about rounding up millions of t people and tearing them away from their country that they their entire lives, from their families, unless you dehumanize them. I think that is ultimately what this is about and why they are leaning into the haitian community. It is not lost on anybody there is a racial component to this, as well. There is no real, i think this is an important point, on the republican right, there is no bl limit on how out there you can be on immigration. Remember, Donald Trump talked about arming mexico to stop gangs from coming in here. He pays no price for it and his entire campaign is built around turning out people to support these kinds of things, so i dont think there is any, we should have no confidence he will tap the brakes on this anytime soon. Okay, basil, was moved to far right Conspiracy Theorist Laura loomer, who is also spreading these lies we are talking about. Shockingly, she joined trump to commemorate 9 11, who rumors that 9 11 was an inside job. Even the most mad or republicans, Marjorie Taylor Greene even shared and condemned the Post Loomer made this month. What does Trump Hope to get out of by being next to your being advised by a Conspiracy Theorist . For a long time we have been saying Donald Trump, politically and elect oriole, he cant go above certain number of points. Instead of trying to raise the ceiling, he is digging deeper into the floor. He is going into the darkest places of Conspiracy Theories and theorists to go and get support. To brendans point earlier, which was a very good point, there is a political benefit he sees out of doing this. O and by expanding and amplifying these, these, these theories, the statements and actually having somebody with him, whispering in his ear, you know, and feeding this to him, it really does talk a lot about, you know, how far, i dont even need to say how far right, just how far away from reality he really has. And i imagine, you know, for the voter, i dont care if you are democratic, independent or republican, you have to find this, not just strange, but alarming that someone who does not deal in anything close to reality has that much influence on a president ial candidate. Untethered from reality, absolutely. So brendan, what does it say that even far right members of the republican party are tryinge to stop trump from associating with loomer and they are failing. Does this suggest to you that trump is just not interested in expanding his voting pool deck, he believes he can win with his current level of support . Donald trumps political strategy has always been creating his own reality. I think he likes the reality that people like Laura Loomer talk about for him. I dont want to give any credit to a Marjorie Taylor Greene or i someone like that with a voice of reason, i just think that Marjorie Taylor Greene wishes she were herself was on that plane, she herself engages in crazy Conspiracy Theories. We need to take a breath. We have been doing this for years, we tell Donald Trump how he should act better and do different things, he will not do so. This is not about his campaign, it is not about Laura Loomer, this man doesnt have any real respect for truth, fact, reality, he just wants to live in the reality that works best for him. He wants to have power where he is and if we find somebody, like the wackiest Person On Thes internet, bring them in. We have seen him sit down with all kinds of people i would never ever want to associate with, let alone the republican nominee for president. Bl okay. E this is part one, guys. Basil, brendan, stay with me. N we have a lot more to talk about. We will do it in a moment. For all of you, we will talk , about Poll Numbers and why they remain so close in the race. E i will speak with Mary Trump in her new memoir about her famous family and the pain she has endured at the hands of her family during her childhood. We are back in 90 seconds. Chase knows how to put the hart in your local community. Evan youre helping them with savings, right . somebody just got their first Debit Card Ice cream on you . Your money is a part of your community, so your bank should be too. Like, Chase Sup . Who are you . So your bank should be too. Im your inner child. Get in. 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Donald Trump Declare Victory at the debate during those remarks in Las Vegas Last Night while at the same time accusing Vice President Kamala Harris of cheating without evidence. He suggested she might have worn an earpiece and received the questions in advance. Again, we have no evidence of that. Youre right, he has been seen since that debate. He is not plenty to do another one with harris ahead of the november election. But yesterday during remarks in california before the Las Vegas rally, he left the door open to another debate just a crack, say maybe he would reconsider, if he is in the right mood. I spoke with a handful of kamala most ardent supporters and if you expect the speck expressed to me said that Vice President , harassing to get under trumps skin a bit and there were times he was more on the defense of rather than the offense of. Here is one of trumps supporters. Take