He grew up in west texas. Texa required Wall Street firms to be largely bailed out and george w. Bush didnt like that idea but he did not have a better plan and the plan did work It Was something george W Bush might have fueled more populism because people did not think It Was a good idea to help out the bankers in new york. Had we not done so, the Economy Wouldve had a much bigger problem. Most people did not focus on that. David rubenstein, you are ind your element with this book, the highest calling. Let me plug again i love your podcasts for the ages. Thank you so much for your time. A lot happened with Donald Trump and his Media Stock on friday, The Ups And Downs and why they have trump angry. That is ahead in the next hour. Circle good day to you from World Headquarters in new york. Welcome Tos Alex Witt reports. We begin with the race for the white House. 52 days ceto Election Day. Kamala harris is attending events in washington, d. C. Today while former president Donald Trump is in Las Vegas in Person Early Voting begins monday in pennsylvania. N one Party Official says democrats may be on course to win North Carolina this november. When you have 40,000 new volunteers setting up in florida and 40,000 new volunteers signing up in a pennsylvania. We have Tens Of Thousands of volunteers in North Carolina and i want to be on the record, we are going to win North Carolina. In the last six months, four trips to eastern North Carolina, not to charlotte, not to raleigh, not to durum but to poor black folks in rural counties, we are going to win North Carolina this election cycle. Vice president harris made campaigns. In johnstown and wilkesbarre, pennsylvania, reminding voters about Kedrums Record on obamaca. Remember when he waS President , he tried 60 times to end the affordable care act. As he sat in the debate this week, he has no plan to replace it. He said he has, quote, concepts of a plan. Concepts of a plan. No actual plan. Donald trump spoke in Las Vegas Last Night where he once again claimed he won the debate and continued personal attacks on vp harris. A couple nights ago we had an even better victory, we took her on, conrad Kamala Harris. We took her on and we did really well. She cannot talk. We have several porters and analyst ready to go with all of new headlines and we start with Aaron Gilchrist at the white House for asbury welcome to you my friend but what a rehearing from the Vice President during her first Solo Interview and she rose to the top of the ticket . Reporter in her first interview the Vice President talked about some of the fithin we have heard before when she did the Sitdown Interview with a local Tv Station in pennsylvania, the Abc Affiliate out of philadelphia. She was in pennsylvania when she did this interview, a very red county, one that Donald Trump won in the last election cycle. One where she and her campaign have been trying to pick away at the margins, if you well. Trying to steal away as many voters aS Possible from the republican president ial candidate right now. During the course of the interview she talked about some of the things we heard about with the economy, the ideas for supporting small businesses and for trying to lower cost for middleclass families. She was asked by the reporter about whether she felt like her administration would be a continuation of the biden administration. She was asked how she distinguishes herself from president Joe Biden. I want you to hear part of her response to that question. Obviously i am not Joe Biden. I offer a new generation of leadership. My approach is about new ideas, new policies that are directed at the current moment. Also, to be very honest with you, my focus is very much in what we need to do over the next 10 or 20 years. That is to catch up to the 21st century around capacity but also challenges. Reporter republican mens her ideas are not dramatically different from those of the current administration. At the same time the Vice President has said that she is offering new ideas and the slogan for the campaign has been a new way forward. That is what she took out on the trail the last several days that she has been traveling, particularly through the East Coast and up into the Blue Wall area. The Rust Belt states of wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania in particular. It is a message that will continue to see her press forward as she works to solidify the coalition that the campaign says they have been able to build over the many months. We know she will travel again to pennsylvania On Ertuesday of this week talking with The National association of black journalists, rescheduled event. There was an invitation extended last month for the conference but she was not able to be there. She will speak at the hispanic congressional Caucus Institutes Conference in d. C. Later this week before traveling to the Detroit Area for a gathering she will do with oprah, an event she will do sitting down oprah for a conversation. The campaign continues with 50 days or so left before the election. There is early voting that dawi start next week in some of these key states that the campaign is really trying to win you can expect we will see the Vice President and her running mate, he is about to speak in the next hour or so in wisconsin. They will be on the Campaign Trail in the days ahead as well. Aaron gilchrist, thank you so much for bad. We will take you all to North Carolina. There is the insight of a bar and we will show you that because j. D. Vance is there. He is there with his wife. We did have a great picture. He was sitting at the bar drinking a beer. We know he has been taking selfies and shaking hands with those that have gathered. He is there with his wife. The picture is funky right now but he is there having a beer with folks in greenville, North Carolina. Let us begin in 2024 Wicampaign Reporter julian frankel. Welcome again. What did you hear from his supporters about his Debate Performance . Really talking about it . Reporter Donald Trump declared victory during his remarks in Las Vegas Last Night. At the same time he also cues Kamala Harris of it cheating. Suggesting that she was wearing an earpiece during the debate and she got the questions ahead of time. Immigration was also a major focus during his remarks Last Night. He suggested he would create a Task Force Sto crack down on Organized Crime Activity to liberate parts of the u. S. He also accused haitian immigrants of taking over springfield, ohio, but there is no mention of the head Eating Conspiracy Theories that have bubbled up in White Reading Spaces which authorities have said they do not have evidence of getting back to the debate, i spoke with a handful of supporters in his rally Last Night. While most of them said at that they have supporters that are through and through. They are not changing their vote. They did express concerns that there were moments when harris appeared to be able to get under trumps skin and there were times, they say, he came off as defensive rather than offenses. Take a listen. Watching it, i was kind of disappointed at the performance as i started weighing the facts in seeing how oneassided It Wa i was very upset. It kind of was just like, it proves to the country that are items are being taken away but they are being stifled. Our freedom of speech. Reporter it is interesting to note that while the supporters are willing to express concerns about trumps Debate Performance, they quickly chalked it up to what they say was an unfair media environment, something we heard directly from the former president himself in the last few days since the debate. Thank you so much for that report from Las Vegas. Let us bring them msnbc political Analyst And Host of thel in sync with Alexi Podcas and Tim Miller, political analyst, writer a lot for the Bulwark And Host of the bulwark podcasts. Good to see you both. But the bait over future debates is certainly heating up. Vice president harassing she is ready for a rematch. Yesterday trump said he might participate if he got into the right mood. What does that even mean . I guess the live question would would it be in trumps best interest . That is a good question. I think it would if he could control himself. He cannot do any worse than he did in the first debate. I think that if you wanted to present a view to some of the voters out there for him that were watching, you see this in focus groups at other Media Outlets. Maybe thinking that they have concerns about him and were open to voting for him. And that they watched it and he and reinforce some things that they did not like about him. They came away more in Kamala Harris camp. I think it would make Thsense T try to win a back to me, i dont know how you can run as the Alpha Tough Guy Male candidate who has Hulk Hogan and the Ufc Guy at the convention. And that also be the person that is scared to look at Kamala Harris in the Face And Debate her again. I think it undermines one of the Core Arguments and the Kamala Harris will continue to troll him about if if he decides to wimp out. That wasnt short a detail that you mentioned, he did not look at her was. She looked at him and the camera. Had a normal conversation between people. Alexi, the majority of the News Outlets on both sides of the aisle Say Harris won. Why does the campaign wanted Debate Trump again . . Are they that confident that they could shellac him a second time or something . May have room to grow with other voters who were not checked into the first debate or still might be on the fence, who want to hear a more he substantive Policy Debate on certain issues. I do not think Gun Control was mentioned or asked about in a really deep way at the debate. That is one issue that comes to mind that voters might want to hear more about from Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Also because it gives her another chance to create and show voters the contrast between her and Donald Trump and what their presidencies will look like, what they look like as Human Beings and how erratic Donald Trump is. Lastly, a second debate would give voters the opportunity to really ss, i would argue, Donald Trumps Mental Acuity and we can say at the very least, cognitive fatigue. That is an interesting Way T to put it. With regard to Gun Control, It Was a stutter. A lot of people were shocked when a simple phrase acknowledging both Kamala Harris and tim walz, less so for him, are gun owners. A lot of people were thinking, that was a shocker right there but to your point, they did Go On to talk about policy. Let us talk about the Washington Post which is highly which states the campaigns are focused on based on Ad Spending. Data shows that harris is honing in on blue states like michigan, while trump is trying to lock down georgia. Both are dropping the most cash on pennsylvania. What does this tell you about how both see the path to victory . Donald trump is running incompetent campaign in a lot of ways. Whoever they have doing the ads knows what they are doing. They have a very clear insight straight path to winning the states he won last time plus georgia and pennsylvania that is a victory for him. Those are the two he is spending the most and, significantly more in pennsylvania. If he blockS Pennsylvania from Kamala Harris, which that is her weakness if you believe the polls and that makes things much harder for her. She had to win georgia or North Carolina Plus One of the western states, arizona or nevada. That is the chessboard here. Trump trying to block her Blue Wall in pennsylvania and that is why he is spending the most money there. Alexi, your thoughts on the same question. He was making me think about Ad Spending obviously important. Volunteers and a number of people they have working on the ground for that matters a lot. I think that the Harris Campaign has something like 60,000 volunteers in pennsylvania alone and the Trump Campaign has something like 27,000 or something. There is a huge gap because the right and the Trump Campaign have focused on building what they are calling Election Integrity teams and Poll Watchers for deploying the night of and not focused on Organizing And Doorknocking and getting volunteer to activate the same Way That harris, voreducing the biden campaign, volunteers for them. Let me say we do know for a fact that there is about six times the number of paid campaign in place for the Harris Campaign in the state of pennsylvania than there are for the Trump Campaign at thiS Point, which is a bit of a head scratcher. The Harris Campaign says that the Vice President will start doing more interviews with the press. Yesterday, harris did her first Oneonone Interview with a Television Philadelphia new station. Can she get away with just doing local interviews at this stage of the race . Yes, i think so. She needs to be out there she is doing campaign events. Some of the stuff is gazing, g whether she does interviews with national Media Outlets is less important than the fact she is getting her message out there. Ng local in the states is important. I look to nontraditional media i was her. Black Media Outlets in particular. The people you are trying to get you now are not political excesses. They are people that are engaging and getting their political news may be through an influencer that they follow. Or kind of secondhand true friends. I think that would be what i would recommend doing work nontraditional interviews and getting out therera but they do not have to feel pressured to do a certain Kind Noof Intervie The National media gives them trouble about it that always cracks me up. Alexi, give me something that the big national interviews and why you think going this Route O may be better than that one. Sorry, going the Route Of ry national interviews . Why not focus more on those . TimS Point is a good one. I also think that the Harris Campaign is able to do things in a completely different way er not least of which because they into a special s election, as we have talked about in the past. Having sort of a three Month Campaign allows you to run it u in a different way as if its a startup from start to end. She is also to enable, to be frank, get the Cold Shoulder to the traditional media that has gone out of its Way To really killer her and write negative stories about her and misunderstand her as Vice President up until the moment when biden dropped out of the race and she suddenly was in line to become the nominee. Everyone had to try to understand her and give her a fair chance in a Way They have not before. She does not have the strongest relationships with traditional media reporters. A lot of the black reporters across newsrooms were assigned to cover her as Vice President. You know the make up of traditional newsrooms as well as i do. That already limits the pool. To timS Points, i think those podcasts are really where she can make a difference. You see trump doing all these different types of interviews and podcasts. Biden himself did the Smartness Podcast with former president s obama and clinton. That should be something that harris and walz should consider. Do stay right there, i have more to discuss with you. You have all heard the expression you are the company that you keep what to make of Donald Trump adding Laura Loomer to his entourage. Behi t, how do you already know, its jeep . Probably the same way you know if a trex is chasing a jeep wrangler. Is getting away. Yep or if it takes you places that make you say, woah. And their Hair Looks like this. Or someone says, the doors come off. Then you just know what It Was. What it is. And what it always will be. Because when youre an original, theres only one. Im gonna hold you forever. Ill be there. You dont. You dont have to worry. Want to update you on something new today more Bomb Threats on hospitals in springville, ohio, after false claims spread by former President Trump through the city into turmoil. We are staying on top of that story. Maggie vespa will join us later for combat. We have Alexi Mccammon and Tim Miller now. With trumpS Pet comments, they seemed absurd. They became a source of 25 after the debate. How does it show the sinister alexi, are you muted, i think . Sorry. The dangers of these lies. We are seeing the affect of them. There have been School Closures and other closures because of Bomb Threats and other violent threats against the haitian immigrants who live in springfield, ohio. There has been great reporting about the bennett that that those immigrants have brought to the community in springfield , which is important for people to know because it is dangerous for them to have this association coming from the right and from these outlandish Conspiracy Theories. The other fallout you have is the little boy, the 11yearold Boy who died in a School Bus Accident that happened to be committed by another oncoming driver who was a haitian immigrant. The father of a little boy who died came out and said, i wish he was killed by a sixyearold white guy is so that the right would stop bringing up the memory of the worst day of my life in this terrible way. Yes, it has been tragic. That is brutal. Tim, the mayor of springfield was on it that the influx of migrants into the community is a strain on public resources but said his community will work collaboratively. They will address the issue and said we need help and not hate. What is this message not getting across to Donald Trump . Donald trump does not want to help anybody except himself. All these people are just pawns in this game for him. J. D. Vance has given aWay The game on this. In 2016 hes sent a tweet that says he does not Donald Trump because he makeS Peo