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MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports September 17, 2024

Lying in wait with a gun for Donald Trump. The suspect, described as emotionless, even nonchalant as he was charged in court today. The new details about how long he may have been waiting in that Tree Line and the new Body Cam Footage of when police finally caught up to him. Also, trump moving ahead with his schedule, telling supporters his resolve is only stronger. His flurry of fundraising emails and what we know about the mood inside the Trump Campaign. Plus, President Biden declaring the Secret Service needs more help. His message and what Kamala Harris is saying about the alleged attempt on her rival. And after two close calls in just over two months, lawmakers say they want answers. Weve live on Capitol Hill with new pressure on the Secret Service. Our Nbc News reporters are falling all of the latest developments. We start with those new details about ryan routh, the man facing gun charges linked to the alleged attempt on Donald Trumps life. Nbcs Tom Winter joins me now. What more do we know, tom . We have a little bit of new information from the criminal complaint filed in federal court, chris, following that Court Proceeding this morning. The new information is that according to Cellphone Records so on facebook he posted some information about his whatsapp account, and then federal investigators were able to use that information to associate it with a cellphone number. They called up tmobile. They have the ability to ask for an Emergency Warrant to get information about that number, and they were able to track it down, that he was outside of the Golf Course at approximately 1 50 a. M. On sunday. So he sets up in the overnight hours, saturday into sunday, and then the shooting happens almost 12 hours later at approximately 1 30 p. M. When the Secret Service spots him in the Tree Line and then fires at him. So where he was specifically hiding and how that went down and where his vehicle was and should it have been noticed or not remains a bit of an open question, but i think it is just important to get a sense of the timing. We know from our researcher in the Nbc News investigative unit, chloe active, already the fbi has gone to local businesses surrounding this Street And Shooting area and seized the hard drives containing Surveillance Video from those locations. So it is a little bit of new detail and shows theyre on top of the situation already. There are also federal agents out there actually interviewing and talking to people as i speak with you, and weve been able to spot them out there, you know, talking to local businesses as well as they try to develop a timeline as far as where this individual was and what was going on. The gun charges we alluded to, you and i spoke about it frankly last night, about the idea that this could be a potential avenue for charging this individual, and thats what theyve, in fact, done here. We will have to figure out if somebody sold him that gun illegally, if theres an active and ongoing investigation into that, and well have to get to the bottom of that. Obviously investigators probably looking into that as well and trying to determine what happened here with respect to the weapon. But thats kind of the latest information that we have. There is going to be a 4 00 briefing involving the Secret Service, the Acting Director as well as the fbi and the u. S. Attorney out of miami. So hopefully more details this afternoon, chris. Thanks so much for that, tom. Well, Donald Trump is expected to meet with the acting Secret Service director today. Meantime, he has been using the incident at his Golf Course as part of the new push to rally supporters. Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard is on the ground in west Palm Beach, florida for us. What are we hearing from the former president . We have seen multiple Fundraising And Text messages coming from the campaign in the 24 hours since the attempted assassination. We have in the form of social Media Posts from Donald Trump now heard from him placing blame at the feet of democrats, particularly Vice President Kamala Harris for what he describes as rhetoric that led to these apparent Assassination Attempts to take his life. Just one social Media Post from just a short time ago saying, quote, because of the communist left rhetoric, the bullets are flying, and it will only get worse. That these, quote, ridiculous lawsuits, referring to the indictments against him, and the civil suits are specifically designed to inflict damage on joes and kamalas political opponent, me, and it has taken politics in our country to a whole new level of hatred, abuse and distrust. To our understanding, at this Point In Time Donald Trump will proceed with his campaign schedule. Tomorrow he is slated to have an event in michigan before heading to New York for a Campaign Rally on long island. On thursday he will be in washington, d. C. Delivering remarks before going to North Carolina for a Campaign Rally on saturday. For Donald Trump and his campaign, there is a reality that yesterday afternoon, that if it was not for the cellar work of the u. S. Secret service and local Law Enforcement that there could be an attempted assassin on the loose here as we speak. This is a moment for the campaign where the Cocampaign Manager sent out a memo to campaign staff, said that they wanted to ensure the Security And Safety of this staff. But this is looming over as we come down into the crucial days ahead for this campaign. On thursday early ballots go out, Mail Ballots go out to voters in wisconsin. Voters in other states will be getting their Mail Ballots as well. This is a crucial time for this campaign, chris. There is no doubt about that. Vaughn hillyard, Thank You. Meantime, we heard from President Biden in the wake of this incident. He says more help is needed for the Secret Service. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez joins us now. Tell us more about what President Biden had to say today. Hi there, chris. Good afternoon. Yes, as you said, he said Thank God that President Trump Formerpresident trump is okay, but he also talked about how the Secret Service needs more help, although he was asked whether it meant more funding or more personnel, and he said theyre still deciding on that. That was as he left the White House earlier today. But a few moments ago he spoke to a gathering of hbcus in philadelphia. Lets listen to what he said again just moments ago. Let me just say there is no and i mean this from the bottom of my hard, those who know me and many of you do, no place for political violence in america, none, zero, never. I have always condemned political violence, i always will in america. In america we resolve our difference peacefully at the ballot box, not at The End of a gun. And the president went on to say that we must do everything we can to prevent political violence and never give it oxygen. Now, overnight Vice President harris also put out a statement of her own saying that she is glad the former president is safe and that violence has no place in america. So, again, chris, both the president and Vice President weighing in on this. As of now we have no indication that the events of yesterday will have any impact on the Vice President s campaign stops later on this week, chris. Gabe gutierrez, Thank You for that. Meantime, on Capitol Hill lawmakers are demanding another briefing from the Secret Service on how a suspected gunman could have gotten within 500 yards of the former president. Nbcs Ryan Nobles is on The Hill for us. Whats the latest from there . Chris, it is important to keep in many there were many republicans and democrats who were already concerned about the Secret Service in the wake of the attempted Assassination Attempt of President Trump over the summer. This has now stepped up their concerns and it has led to even more questions about oversight of the agency and a demand for transparency from the Secret Service. Both the senate and the house have launched investigations into the first Assassination Attempt, and theres some question now as to whether or not those existing investigations will now just roll into this latest Assassination Attempt against the former president. But theres been a degree of frustration between the amount of information being shared by the Executive Branch over to the legislative branch, and this is what Congresswoman Madeleine Dean had to say about that earlier today. What we need from the Secret Service is more transparent truth about what happened, what works, what doesnt, what resources are missing. I do believe that Secret Service appears from our preliminary reviews, they appear to be stretched too thin, that they need more resources, and certainly these candidates with the threats that they are under must have toplevel Secret Service accommodations and protections. And what members of congress told me, chris, is theres three goals here by the members of congress as they look into both of these incidents. The first is to find out how it happened, what went wrong, what can they do to prevent it from happening again. Then theres the idea of implementing a longterm strategy to allow the Secret Service the capacity to make sure that they protect everyone under their charge and make sure theyre safe, but theres a more immediate need, and that is that we are in the midst of a very robust campaign involving two major Party President ial candidates, and then you also have the added responsibility of the sitting president of the united states. All of that protection falls underneath the Secret Services banner, and if there are fundamental problems with the way this agency exists, whether or not they have enough resources, whether or not their practices are the best ones to be implemented, all of that needs to be addressed immediately to make sure that we can get through this campaign without something tragic happening. Chris. Ryan nobles, Thank You. Coming up in 90 seconds, investigators say the suspected gunman, who was hiding in the Tree Line at Donald Trumps Golf Course, isnt talking. 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Here is Palm Beach County Sheriff and the State Attorney for Palm Beach county. Is he talking . No. When he was pulled over first, he kept his mouth shut. He was compliant, which tells you that he perhaps has been through this before, not specifically with this charge but hes had a Rap Sheet. I want to bring in Nbcs Justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. Also with us former federal Prosecutor And Msnbc legal analyst paul butler. Paul, as you are building a case against this guy does his pass play into it in any significant way, what we just heard about him . Absolutely, especially the fact that this person is a convicted felon, which means that it is illegal for him to possess a firearm. So one key part of the investigation will be how did he get this gun, did someone give it to him. That also raises the question whether there was a conspiracy. So this case is just beginning. Chris, the charges that were filed today are just holding charges. Theyre designed to keep the suspect locked up as the investigation continues. Theyre serious charges, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon carries a sentence of up to 15 years, but i suspect even more serious federal charges are forthcoming. We saw the county d. A. Just a second ago in the second piece of sound, and he had said yesterday i interviewed him and he said, look, he was ready to go forward with charges, the federal government decided they were taking this case very quickly. How does that change the equation . It is a question of who goes first. There could be state and federal charges at some point. I think federal prosecutors are probably consider charges of attempted assassination of the former president. Prosecutors will have to think whether they have enough evidence to prove the Suspects Intent and he got close enough to the president to injure him. If the suspect aimed a gun at a Secret Service agent, criminal charges related to that might be more easier to prove and would carry a long sentence, too. Again, those charges ultimately could be brought in State Court as well as federal court. But for an attempted assassination, federal charge, you dont have to necessarily have fired, is that right . That is true. The issue is just how close he got to committing the crime, but, yes, he doesnt have to have pulled the trigger in order to be charged with assassination. Ken, our colleague Jesse Kirsch talked to the martin County Sheriff about what might have happened if the witness didnt spot this suspect. What did he say . Yeah, thats right. We are learning more about the great Police Work that happened there. I think we have that sound. Lets take a listen to it. If the witness had not seen him, where would he be right now . If the witness had not seen him, taken a picture of the car, giving us the tag and had not Palm Beach county Given It to us immediately, i would say he would be home resting, having a margarita about now. Thats remarkable. They made use of License Plate readers to quickly locate, you know, where that vehicle was along i95. And then we have really arresting video of what happened when they reached the car, the body cam video. Lets take a look at that. So as you see there, the swat team, carefully trained, theyre in formation. Theyre taking pains to make sure that their lives are not at risk, but this this arrest happened you know, it is a felony stop, it is a Highrisk Procedure by these guys, but it happened with no injuries. They took the suspect into custody there, as you see, aggressively but without hurting him and took him off to jail, chris. Yeah, when he walked into the federal courthouse earlier, paul, our team there described his demeanor as not bothered, nonchalant, which matches, right, what were seeing there. Let me play a little bit from how the martin County Sheriff described it all. They had him at Rifle Point get out of the vehicle, on his knees, interlock his hands. You have seen it before. And then take him into custody. I arrived a moment later, and i would describe his demeanor as very calm. He seemed to have a very bland facial affect. He didnt seem perturbed or disturbed by what was going on. I mean we had a helicopter overhead, men with rifles and blue lights, and the interstate shut down. He was just just as calm as if he was going for a picnic after church. Do you read anything into that, paul . Well, hes reportedly had over 100 contacts with Law Enforcement, mainly in North Carolina. So hes been arrested many times, meaning that he has been read his Miranda Warning many times. He understands he is not required to talk to Law Enforcement. Today he was formally assigned a federal public defender, so no statement is likely forthcoming from him. At the same time, chris, the evidence suggests lots of planning including the fact that there was this scoped rifle, the backpacks with ceramic plates, which plates which indicated he planned to get away. It wasnt any kind of suicide mission. Also, he had a Go Pro Camera to try to help him document, record this crime. Even if he is not talking, lots of forensic evidence will be available to Law Enforcement as they investigate what looks like an attempted assassination. Yeah. Let me ask you about another piece of evidence revealed in court documents. There are Cellphone Records showin

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