Break down all the latest news from the president ial race including the latest on the Georgia Election boards ruling on Counting Ballots but first, i want to get right into it with the Executive Producer of from russia with lev. My Colleague Rachel Maddow who gets to add a new important moniker to your resume. You are the Executive Producer of this amazing documentary that we just watched. Congratulations first of all my friend. Thank you, ali. It feels so great to have it out in the world. I have to just ask you, did you like it . Not only did i like it, i was set up not to like it and i dont mean that for any other reason than lev is a complicated character. Its a very honest documentary about the complexity of lev. His Wife Talks about the complexity of lev. Lev talks about the complexity of lev. You had i believe the first interview with him all those years ago. So i wasnt sure what i wanted to know about lev that i didnt already know. And you just stitched the whole thing together in a way that makes me wish i knew all this back then. You know, it does matter that he is a very compelling person. Yes. And you know, you can tell this story in lots of different ways. You can tell this story from the perspective of marie ivanovich, the ambassador. Or the perspective of and the way he was extorted by trump and the crime against ukraine that was at the heart of the impeachment which culminating thing here. You can tell it from the perspective of Rudy Giuliani or trump. But to tell it from the perspective of lev, you get this guy, a very flawed person. He is open about the fact he has a background as a hustler, organized crime. He came up in that environment. You know. The whole reason that the characters like Tony Andre were going after him for years because he had all these legal judgments and debts. Not a boy scout. But that is why he was amayinging that he ended up in the White House tasked to do something by the president of the united states. When you layer on top of that what i believe is his genuine repentance and the fact his phone has terabytes of evidence about what these people did, it is unlike any other story i know of. The thing that makes this so great right from the beginning is the degree to which he leans into the fact he is a mob like character. Mob like characters and in some cases actual mobsters were embedded in the Trump Administration. Who was really calling the shots during the Trump Administration during this time that you cover . That is part of the worrying thing. That is why it is a national. It is not just a character flaw. Its a national Security Problem when you have criminals involved in the u. S. Government. When the crooks take over the White House, thats not just bad for the american people. But it is really good for the crooks. Because it means that anybody who is involved with people they shouldnt be involved with, anybody who is involved in crimes also becomes susceptible to blackmail. To extortion. To doing all sorts of things that could pervert their work and what is supposed to be the Public Service so it is really bad to have crooks in charge. In this case, in ukraine, the permeability of the White House, the fact a guy who Ran A Club Called Mafia Rave in ukraine had access to the president of the united states was seen as being a fantastic piece of news for the kinds of guys who would know a guy who ran the Mafia Rave Club in kyiv. Those sorts of Characters Shouldnt have access to the american president. To be counsel to the american president. To getting an ambassador fired they wanted out of the way because she was anti corruption. That is how the Trump Administration ran. That was a moment in the documentary when lev was relating the way in which he talked to Donald Trump about Maria Ivanovich being the problem. The u. S. Ambassador to ukraine being the problem and needing to get rid of her and how literally Donald Trump looks over his shoulder and says get rid of her, shes done. Find a reason to get rid of her. You realize the power that people like lev had in the Donald Trump circle. This the a real story about a fake story and he was involved in creating the fake story. He was in the Control Room overseeing the interview with the minister of Internal Affairs and describes it as old soviet Style State Tv propaganda. You have spent so much time talking about the funnel of misinformation in america and you have done a funnel about misinformation. When lev says at one point in the film you know, i eventually realized that there wasnt anybody who fed us any piece of this story who wasnt either working for the russian government directly or working for russian intelligence. This was a foreign Influence Operation. The director of national intelligence has just said that russia is targeting our elections. Again, in 2024 to try to get trump back in the White House as part of their overall effort to try to harm and weaken the united states. Using their best weapon against the united states which they think is Donald Trump in power. So they are doing it now. That is why we have seen all the indictments from the Justice Department. We remember what they did in 2016 to get trump in power with the Troll Farms and the wiwileaks and the hacking of the democratic party. That is all 2016 and 20204. In between in 2020, what they did was lev. They did this project to create a story that would hopefully knock Joe Biden out of the running for the democratic president Ial Nomination in 2020 because Donald Trump knew that biden had the best chance of beating him. And so he wanted him out. So they ran the russians ran an Influence Operation to try to essentially spoil Joe Bidens chances at winning and went at him with what they thought was his achilles heel. His love for his son hunter. Using a fathers love for his son against him i think is morally repugnant. I think it is evil. But it also was really consequential in Hunters Life and the biden Familys Life and It Led to the first trump impeach. And levs life. And all of this. That was the origin of it. In a few minutes i will talk to lev and his wife. Central characters in the show. These documentaries dont work without central characters. When you tell it from too many perspectives you lose the effect of the story. So parnas is the central character. He frames himself as The Con Man who got conned. At the same time, he helped orchestrate this whole operation. So, i know where i stand on this but for the viewer, they should they believe him now . Thats a very good question. A totally fair question. One we had to confront and have long conversations with the director and the producer of the fill. We talked about this a lot. Because that is core to the journalistic import of the film. Can you believe what he is saying . There are two things, maybe three things that powerfully i think come down on the side of believing what he is saying. One of them was the first interview he did with me in January Of 2020 which set this whole process in motion. You know how this works ali, when somebody gets arrested, somebody gets indicted, the one thing you can be sure they are not going to do next is appear on television doing an interview with a real journalist. And yet, after he was arrested and indicted he did an interview with me at great legal peril. The Justice Department tried to remand him to custody because he did that interview with me. All of his come to jesus, let me tell you what i know, all of that stuff was not only in his own interest, it was against his interest directly. It was not selfinterested and i find that important. The other part of it is he really does have a record of all the things he is talking about. Hes got thousands and thousands and thousands of text messages. Thousands of documents. Thousands of photos. And he just gave us full access to all of that to make this film which was the most amazing Fact Checking Process i have been through for a guy with such an incredible story to tell with such important people. We watched a powerful moment at The End of the film Where Lev Parnas finally meets Hunter Biden. How did that come together . So, we had a totally different ending planned for the film. In his final interview, there was the Sere Reese of interviews with lev that made the core of the film. In his final interview, he said to the director billy corbin, i will go to my Probation Officer and ask for permission to leave the state of florida because i walled like to go to California And Apologize to Hunter Biden Face To face. Billy was like okay, sure, i want a pony. But lev made it happen. He figured out how to contact Hunter Biden. Would you consider it and if so, can i bring a camera . None of us believed. I didnt even bother putting it on my calendar. I never thought it would happen. And then it just did. And we didnt know whether hunter was going to punch him out or talk to him or accept his apology. It was just a remarkable moment given what lev was the author of in Hunters Life. Lev understands the role between what he did and where we are now with the invasion of russia and the russian invasion of ukraine and a weakened ukraine. We are still waiting to see what the outcome of that war will be. But throughout the ukraine war, lev was and maybe this was part of his penance, he was trying to be really helpful to me. Being in touch saying what do you need and trying to do things to allow us to cover it as you call. I was sitting in for you when i was doing that. What is your sense of him . Is he a changed man . I mean i think he is still the same person. I think he is very smart. I think he is charismatic. Nobody has ever forgotten meeting him. There is a certain, a sort of real charisma there that is true. But i think that he has been through a real transformation. He thinks of himself as being in a cult and coming out the other side of it. And it has been brutal for his family. Very compelling throughout the film. Shes The Star of the film in many ways, his wife. Im interested to see your interview with her. But she is amazing but when lev says now what he would like to do is help people get out of the Trump Cult to come out the other side of it the way he did, i believe him. I think this was the story of his life and he wants to try to help. And im interested to see what he does. I think he has a lot to offer. It was a marvelous film. What does it feel like to be a Film Maker . I dont even know. This is the first Feature Documentary that we have produced at surprise inside, my production company. I hope it is the first of many. But it is like giving birth to a 600pound baby. It doesnt feel like you are ever going to do it again. I was very fortunate to have them at the helm of this. It is a total privilege to work with Film Makers that talented so i dont know. I dont know if i will ever be able to do something like this again. I would love to. Its hard to sell documentaries now. Well see. Im thankful to Msnbc Films and universal for helping that happen. There is a lot of content out there, but this was amazingly compelling. Congratulations my friend. Well deserved. It was an enjoyable watch. Ill be watching it again the next couple of days because it was one of those things you need to see again to have it all land in your brain so im grateful to you and thank you. Thank you ali. Much appreciated friend. When we come back, lev parnas and his wife. Well get their take on the film on Donald Trump, on Rudy Giuliani and the mission to Dig Up Dirt On Joe and Hunter Biden. As voting gets underway in three states, Vice President harris campaigned in the key Swing State of georgia where the State Election Board passed last Minute Rule changes that could make a mess on election night. And for days and weeks to come. The 11th hour getting underway on a friday night. On a friday night. You didnt start a business just to keep the lights on. 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I betrayed america. Im sorry. Thats lev parnas and his wife in the new Msnbc Film from rush with lev. Both of them are joining us live tonight. Good evening to both of you. Lev, i wanted, i hadnt told a lot of people this. I said it to rachel, that on the first trip to ukraine, i wasnt even at the airport. I wasnt even at jfk yet and you were the first person to call and say what do you need when you get there. You and i have known Each Other a while. I appreciate you reached out on that very day. Sveltana, i didnt know you. But what did you think . I loved the documentary. The waybillly directed it and the way they produced it. I think it was really special. I didnt expect for the documentary to turn out the way it did. Some of i was a little surprised the Moments Billy caught with both of us but overall i think this documentary is really important for our country now. It speaks to the power of truth. The power of redemption, Reconciliation And Unity and i think if that can be taken away tonight from this documentary, i think that would be, would make us very happy. Lets talk about reconciliation. Lev, lets start at The End where we saw your meeting with Hunter Biden. What were you expecting . You and svetlana are in the carment how did that meeting go compared to what you expected it to do . I definitely didnt expect Hunter To, you know, you know, accept my apology. I never expected that. I was blessed and thankful that he would meet with me. I wanted to get the opportunity to apologize to him. I wanted to give him the opportunity to ask me questions and let me know if there was anything i could help him out with. Tell him stuff i was involved in. And when hunter embraced me and accepted my apology and said some of the strongest words i have ever heard. They hear the narratives i paint of a human being, a father, a son. And that we destroyed his life. To have him sit there and embrace me and accept my apology and tell me that he is proud of me. It was so emotional. Until this day, I Cant believe that im grateful and thankful to hunter and his wife melissa and the Biden Family. It is my mission in life to not only apologize to people. The whole country. Ukraine and everybody i have heard. Especially to the Biden Family and Hunter To make sure i can do whatever to clear his name and their name. It was clear to you he was doing things he shouldnt have been doing. Hanging out with people he shouldnt have been hanging out with. You knew things were wrong. You were being really supportive of lev and you helped pull him out of this. Ultimately, isnt that what marriage is about . To be there through thick and thin . If only for the sake of our family, i needed to be strong. We both needed to be strong and we both needed to get first in the same book. Then on the same chapter and i think we are now on the same page and so, that is kind of where we have been. It was done in such an interesting way. I kept leaning in not wanting it to stop. But there was an interesting moment when you talked about the postcard that you got from Rudy Giuliani when you were behind bars. I expected you to laugh and say it was a joke. I couldnt believe that was actually the postcard he sent you. Somebody you trusted so much. And relied on. And had relied on you, seemed real ready to just throw you to the wolves. You got to understand where i was. I was locked up under Espionage Charges in the cell. I had nothing, not a piece of paper. They had me in different Jump Suit and such like that. Then in the middle of the night i get something slipped under my door. I thought i was hallucinating when i picked up up and read it. I couldnt believe it. I couldnt sleep all night. A lot of things happen with gods blessing, otherwise, i wouldnt be here to tell the story. And that morning all of a sudden, i have lawyers visit. I had no lawyers and my wife hired lawyers to be able to bail me out and they happened to come that morning and with the guard shift, they didnt strip search me as they did every time i walked in and out of the cell. And i was able to sneak it out and hand it to my attorney. When they brought me back in, they went back into Think Cell looking for it. You have to understand, this is a six by eight foot cell. No cement. There was nothing there to search. I knew they were trying to find the postcard because it was supposed to just be a message for me and they were going to get rid of it because otherwise, the plan was to make me, for my Wife And Everybody to think i was crazy. Rudy would call my wife and say lev is losing it. He might be telling you some stories. We are scared he is losing his mind. I think that kept him in solitary Confinement And Something happened to him. That was part of the thing. They knew everything that i knew when i would talk, that it couldnt be proven without the receipts which they had no idea i had until they arrested me. I always wondered what happens to families when things change this way. You had a very new circle of friends. Once Donald Trump got elected and you were deeply Emergency Repairs deeply immeshed with them and then they were gone and your husband was in jail. Yeah. Our life changed forever. Much like it did when lev first got involved with Donald Trump. After levs arrest, our life changed again. A