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MSNBC Morning Joe Weekend September 29, 2024

It was a really busy week. So lets get right to it, some of the conversations you might have missed. Billionaire mark cuban, a Kamala Harris supporter, appeared on a Cnbc Squad Box and shared his thoughts on the Vice President s vision for the economy. Lets take a listen. How much more do you think the public knows now, and how much more do you think the public should know . Obviously, she is talking more, giving speeches, she was very clear about tariffs right there and shes got 40 days to communicate about other things. Think of this as a business and she is the ceo. She went from lack of favorability, lack of awareness, and way behind Donald Trump, to here we are, 50 days later from where she started, she is oh worst tide, people on her economic policy, she was by trump 20 , now she is behind 11 . She is making progress. If she just continues along the trend, the trend is her friend, that means, she is doing the right thing. She will keep communicating new ideas, new elements. She was a lot more specific on tariffs, and where she stands. The difference between her Donald Trump, Donald Trump will say what is fitted to the audience. When we talked to her and her team, she moves back and her team does a full analysis. Peter. I think that is a fair point. She has made progress in terms of the economic debate with trump. He owned a debate for a long time, harley again by repetition, saying over and over again, it is the worst economy. When that is not the case. The facts matter not to the people who are supporting him, they dont want to hear it. Even before covid, among postwar President S, he ranked seventh, among postwar President S behind Jimmy Carter when you look at gmp. And yet, he was allowed to go on mainstream Media Outlets and keep saying, i have the greatest economy of all times. He has repeated it so many times even democrats are beginning to believe it. It is a remarkable thing. It was a good economy, not the greatest. Lots of things were good, a lot of things were problematic. Getting a lot of help with that repetition, by the way. Lets bring in coanchor of the squat box, andrews work in. Mark cuban, continue, tell us more. I think that line where he says, the trend is your friend, from the folks i was talking to Last Night, so the speech is on the interview with stephanie ruhle, the question is, do the independents, do those folks in the middle, who werent sure which way they would go, does this push them over . It definitely made, i would call some reluctant Pairs Support is less reluctant, meaning, they found that and said, you know what, they are behind what she is doing. She now has an economic plan, or at least we understand the economic values she has in a way we did not before. I think you will hear more from her the next couple of weeks about that. I am sure there will be people who will debate about the specifics, there was a line in her Speech Yesterday where she said, she was a capitalist, and she was for free and fair markets. That was music to the ears of folks who werent really sure where she really stood. They heard people call her a progressive, and then to hear her say that, we have been hearing from a lot of folks inside her campaign that she was going to attack from the center, but was she really . This is, for some degree of the world of business, a sigh of relief. Yes, she will have higher corporate taxes then former president Donald Trump would be pushing for. At the same sense, there is a sense right now you will have divided government , anyway. That is another thing going on i think people dont fully appreciate. For those people worried that she will be taxing people like crazy or something like that, that will be very hard to put in place too. The feedback i heard from the Business Community Last Night was very, very positive for her, pretty much across the board. They want to know more, but they were feeling better. Again, i know this is a vibes campaign, but the vibes were better. Andrew, what have you and i been hearing from ceos, Business Owners for 15 years . When Barack Obama was president , our democrats policies during the trump presidency, or during the biden presidency, they are going too far left, they have been taken over by the progressives, Joe Biden is a progressive, Ken Matt Harris is a radical, of course, Donald Trump takes it a step further and says, marxist or communist. When a politician or the democratic party says, i am a capitalist, i am going to cut taxes for small businesses, i am going to cut taxes for people building homes, im going to give freemarket incentives to build 3 Million new homes in 40 years, and when she says, the federal government can fix anything, i go back again and peter will remember this very well, bill clinton going, the air and every republican died laughing and said, nobody will believe that but clinton attacked at the center, we balanced the budget four years in a row and i just dont think people should underestimate what she said yesterday. I will also suggest one other thing, neither of these candidates talk about debts or deficits, which is something i think voters care about in some way or another, maybe they dont care too much about. In truth, if you really listened to her yesterday talk about taxes, who will try to balance the budget, or get closer to that, she is. She talked about higher corporate taxes. Clearly, she talked about higher taxes on the very wealthy. That may make the very wealthy frustrated. She also said something, i am not against them being wealthy, i am not against success, i just want to figure out a way to tax the system in a fair way. I think that to some degree resonated. I am sure there will be selfish folks who are super greedy who dont like the idea of it, but when you start to think about what is the more practical approach to all of these things, she definitely laid out her case and i think it landed to a large degree. When you listen to people like scott, who will tell you that the system is rigged for billionaires, for multinational corporations and rigged against small Business Owners, and people building their business and being successful, that is a message i think lance with a lot of, even Business Owners. You look at those small businesses and the 50,000 is a piece of it. When you think about small businesses, the goal is to make them big businesses. That is the implied nature of what kind of incentives she is trying to put in place. I think when you start to hear these different pieces, i am a capitalist i care about free and fair markets, i care about small businesses, i am trying to figure out how to get Housing Supply better. By the way, the Housing Supply issue is the inflation issue. People forget about that. One of the things you have to deal with is Housing Supply. A lots of moving parts here i think are starting to jail and come together. Fairly, there was a lot of criticism the last couple of weeks. We did not have it all jelling together. We had little pieces. I think some pieces are coming together, The Truth is, we will have to hear more to get the full puzzle to really fit. As always, thank you very much for coming on this morning. We have lots more to get to this hour. Morning Joe Weekend continues after a short break. Into everything . What . I dont do that. This reminds me of my bike. 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Mr. Secretary, you said that a ceasefire would benefit everyone, does that include regimen then yahoo . I believe it does. Does he see it that way . Do you think Benjamin Netanyahu believes the Cease Fire actually benefits him, or does he see it at The End of his career and at a time he has to face indictments . Joe, i am not going to speak for him. I will not put my head in his, or anyone elses for that matter. When it comes to the ceasefire in hezbollah, clearly it benefits everyone involved, but looking from the israeli perspective, they are number one objective, as i said, to make sure those 70,000 really israeli to have been voiced from their homes, had their villages and homes destroyed by fire coming across the border from hezbollah come of this is the way to get them back home, to make sure that they can go with confidence, knowing there will not be a line of fire. This is something, really animating this society. In fact, probably as much, if not more focused, on lebanon then there is on gaza. I think someone who delivers that, yes, that is going to be to their benefit. This morning, we have been talking about the Worstcase Scenario in the ukrainian war with russia, the possibility that Vladimir Putin would use it to clear weapons. Lets talk about the Worstcase Scenario in the Middle East. Speaking as a conservative, that is what we usually do, look at the Worstcase Scenario and try to work back from that to try to stop it from happening. James baker once said, a President S first priority is not having a nuclear war erupt on their watch. Lets talk the Middle East. Worstcase scenario, iran finally decides it is going to get involved and help hezbollah. What does a regional war with iran fully engaged look like in the Middle East, not only to israel, but to the region, and the world . This, joe, is exactly what we need, and are working to prevent. Because a fullScale War in the Middle East, involving not just iran, but all of its many proxies, bringing in other countries, having lots of implications for us, for the many Tens Of Thousands of americans, hundreds of thousands of americans, who live in different countries of the region, that is a picture i dont think any of us want to look at. As i said a few minutes ago, this is exactly what has been animating us since October 7th, not only gaza, not only making sure that October 7th never happens again, but making sure this court does not spread. On repeated occasions, we have come close to that happening. Our engagement, our deterrence on forces we have deployed in the region, prevented us from going over the break and getting into fullScale War. That is why we are so focused on ceasefire. We are it is not just us. The g7 countries, the european union, the arab countries, everyone is speaking with one clear voice about the need to get that ceasefire in the north. Similarly In Gaza, the quickest path to getting things done that everyone wants that benefit everyone, would be through the ceasefire that we are working to negotiate. I want to turn to ukraine briefly, if you have a reaction, in the last hour or so, President Netanyahus Office put out a statement he deemed incorrect answer, the idf would continue fighting, quote, full force. Again , i cant think for him. I can just say that the world is speaking clearly for virtually all of the key countries in europe and in the region on the need for the ceasefire. Obviously, i will be seeing israeli officials later today in New York. We have been engaged with everyone in the region, the entire team, the national Security Advisor, jake sullivan, Middle East hands, our relief, All Of Us at the President S direction, working on it. What we are saying, what the world is saying is very clear and we will be working with israelis and all parties about the rest of the day. Want ukraine, President Zelenskyy had a meeting with president biden earlier today. His task will be to use u. S. Missiles with longerrange deeper into russia, will the u. S. Give that authorization . Every step along the way, ever since the start, actually before the start when We Saw the russian invasion coming, we wanted to make sure ukrainians had what they needed to effectively defend themselves. We got the stingers before the russians came in, they were able as a result to prevent russia from running over the country. Every day since, as necessary, we have adapted and adjusted, depending on the battlefield. Depending on what russia was doing, where it was doing it. The president will see President Zelenskyy a little later today in washington and he will hear from him on this Victory Plan he is putting forward. We will look very carefully at that. I heard talking a little earlier on the program about some of the things working very effectively. He is exactly right, the drones have been extraordinarily effective. We just made an investment of about 1. 5 billion immediately in the production of ukrainian drones. That will produce over 10,000 drones in ukraine for the next several months. When we see the news, that is very effective. We want to make sure they have what they need to deal with the russian aggression and make sure ukraine is in a position of strength if necessary to keep fighting, or if there is a negotiation that it is able to approach that negotiation from strength. Briefly, before we let you go, mr. Secretary, we are from the republican president Ial Campaign getting louder now. Talk that perhaps yesterday, President Zelenskyy is here to hustle the united states for money, we ought to withdraw this from president trump, you get a deal with putin the day he is elected. Can you articulate for viewers who may wonder why so many taxpayer dollars are going to ukraine, and why you believe it is important that the united states stands with ukraine . Really, two things are going on here, an aggression against ukraine and the ukrainian people. I think many of us want to see the country trying to bully a smaller one, we want to do something about it. Fundamentally for the united states, the other thing being addressed are the principles that the heart of the international system that are so necessary in keeping the peace. We are here in New York, u. N. General assembly. The United Nations was created after two World Wars to make sure there would not be a third. The countries came together and agreed to basic rules. You can violate the sovereignty of another country. You cant go on racist borders, dictate to another country what it stresses will be. That is what is happening in ukraine. If we allow that to go forward with impunity then we opened pandoras box. It is open season for any aggressor around the world. They say come up with to get away with it, i can get away with it. That is a world of conflict we do not want. Two other things, this is not the united states doing it alone. It is ukraine doing the fighting with 50 countries supporting them, were actually contributing more collectively than we are. Those dollars we are spending, most of those dollars are being spent here in the united states, building the weapons the ukrainians need. President zelenskyy was justins grandson, thanking the folks making some of the things necessary to defend his freedom, and also our freedom, because that is a frontline in the fight for freedom. That is a frontline in making sure we have a world that is not riddled with conflict, not just here or in europe, but many o

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