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MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports October 4, 2024

It is good to be back with you for this second hour of Chris Jansing reports. At this hour, Donald Trumps private conversations with Mike Pence in the weeks and months before a mob swarmed the capitol. The neverbeforeseen evidence unsealed by a judge and trumps reaction when he was told his Vice President escaped the violence. The former president prepares to take the stage in michigan after attacking special Counsel Jack Smith as deranging. What else hes saying about a filing detailing his increasingly desperate bid to remain in power. The apocalyptic scenes in lebanon, more than A Million people sleeping on the streets, israel keeping up its Air Strikes. A live report on that, and the stunning claims the agreement Hezbollahs Leader made just days before he was killed. And the growing desperation after hurricane helene, A Thousand active duty troops now in areas without power or clean water. And with the fate of hundreds still unknown, President Biden visiting the Storm Zone right now. Our Nbc News reporters are following all of the latest developments. We start with nbcs Ryan Reilly and the newly revealed details about Donald Trumps alleged criminal scheme to stay in power. Ryan, what exactly is Jack Smith arguing in this filing that we didnt know about before . Yeah, you know, Mike Pence has gotten a lot of credit for what happened on January 6th itself when he refused to overturn the election. The context thats important to remember is after the election, publicly Mike Pence was doing this little rhetorical dance with the public. He was saying they were going to fight for every Vote And Fight until The End, even though privately behind the scenes, the week of the election, he conceded to Jared Kushner that he did not believe there was outcome Determinative Fraud in the election. What was revealed in this filing is that pence was sort of doing this quiet and slowly growing lobbying campaign, sort of gently saying, hey, maybe we should concede over time, ultimately saying at The End they should take a bow out. He also apparently offered trump this other path saying they didnt have to actually concede the election but they should recognize that the fight was over. Of course this all ended disastrously, and you have to wonder what would have happened had Mike Pence publicly spoken out at the time contemporaneously and told trump supporters the truth about what happened during the electiOn And that there wasnt fraud that would have meant they had actually won an election that they lost. Ryan reilly, Thank You. The former president will be speaking in michigan just about an hour from now, but hes already had plenty to say about Jack Smiths filing. Nbcs Vaughn Hillyard has that part of our coverage. Hey, vaughn. Reporter chris, Donald Trumps posture has not changed toward this indictment in its entirety, really ever since the charges were brought against him, but also since the investigation commenced. This for Donald Trump is really one play book. And that is to continue to make the case that he was in the right for his actions in the aftermath of the November 2020 election. And not only on the grounds that these Charges Shouldnt have been brought against him based on the Supreme Courts Immunity Ruling that he was working in his official capacity as president , but also he continues to claim that he actually won the 2020 election, which of course is false, but he has never moved off of that position. And that is where you see in his response that continues up to this day in social media posts, continues to go on the attack against judge chutkan, who we should note was the one who decided to release this redacted immunity brief from special Counsel Jack Smith, as well as, of course, the special Counsel Jack Smith as well. Take a listen to Donald Trump last night. Hes a deranged person. He is a person who is trying and he works for kamala, and he works for joe. This was a weaponization of government, and thats why it was released 30 days before the election. And its nothing new in there, by the way. Nothing new. They rigged the election, i didnt rig the election. Its worth noting that Donald Trump over the course of the last several months has repeatedly alleged, quote, Election Interference on the part of American Domestic Answers against him and his campaign. There has been no evidence of any cheating in this election, and no evidence of any of the allegations that anybody has acted illegally, and that of course goes for federal judge, judge chutkan, who is overseeing this federal Election Interference case. These are judicial proceedings in which she made this briefing public, and of course, there has been no specific allegations of Wrong Doing on the part of Jack Smith or the Prosecutions Office from the special counsels office. Yet Donald Trump is trying to win an election. As voters are actively voting in states around the country, there is a very real reality that if he wins this election, this november, he could very well seek to have his Department Of Justice toss the entirety of this indictment in this case against him. Bringing the evidence and these charges to an end, chris. Vaughn hillyard, Thank You. Now to Breaking News out of The Middle East where lebanese officials say Hezbollahs Leader agreed to a Cease Fire just days before he was killed in an israeli attack. Nbcs Matt Bradley is on the ground in beirut. What more can you tell us about that and desperate scenes playing out in that city right now . Reporter yeah, chris, this is quite a revelation, seeing how he was killed a couple of days later. Hassan nasrallah, we knew he all but agreed to this deal, and it was israelis prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, who torpedoed the deal. Benjamin netanyahu had essentially the night before said that he was going to accede to this deal that would have imposed, as you said, a 21day Cease Fire over this border between lebanOn And israel. He backed out the following day under pressure from the right wing ministers who said they would withdraw from the government and therefore collapse it. We knew from the lebanese that they were almost entirely on board, but the problem was, of course, of the United States and israel have no direct communications with hezbollah, nor with Hassan Nasrallah, hes a designated terrorist. So is his organization, hezbollah, he wasnt party to the negotiations. It was the lebanese government who was party to it, and they were running interference between hezbollah and the rest of the negotiators and intermediaries like the United States, the uk, france, but, you know, what were seeing now ever since the death of Hassan Nasrallah and before that, with the expanded israeli evidence against hezbollah has been a swath of destruction all across southern lebanon, an exodus of displaced people that the government now says numbers about A Million, and now as were getting, you know, right here standing where we are, a front Row Seat to the horrifying, continuous bombardment of the southern beirut neighborhood. This is a shiite muslim stronghold and a stronghold for hezbollah, and it has endured Air Strikes for the past two weeks, one of those, a set of different bombs killed Hassan Nasrallah and according to the israelis, 20 of his top deputies. We have continually heard bombardments over the week, and heard some as i came on air with you. This is a routine thing. Earlier today or overnight, excuse me, we saw that the israelis had struck, once again, for the second time this week, deep in the heart of Lebanons Capital of beirut. Far from where im standing right now, and that levels or hit what was not actually os ostensibly a military target. This is a medical facility, tied to hezbollah, now were seeing the menu of Targets Israel is striking kind of expanding. This was not really, strictly speaking a military target. And so that actually killed nine people overnight. And at the same time were seeing that continuous Military Incursion by the israelis into southern lebanon, chris. Matt bradley, Thank You. And back here at home, President Biden has activated A Thousand troops to help with Relief Efforts after hurricane helene. Nbcs Ryan Nobles is live in valdosta, georgia, where the president is heading today, after touring Storm Damage in florida. Bidens visit comes as the Death Toll from the storm, were learning, is mounting in the state where you are. Tell us whats going on there. Reporter thats right, chris. In fact, we have made our way from augusta, georgia, yesterday, to valdosta today, and we could see the National Guard troops mobilizing and driving to different areas that are the hardest hit to provide assistance to people in this community. This is going to be a long process, chris, over just a wide swath of land, up and down the southeast. President biden is touring hardest Hit Areas in the panhandle of florida. Hes in a mobile unit in keaton beach, florida, he took an Aerial Tour in parts of perry, florida, where in some case, entire neighborhoods where all the homes have been completely leveled. Hes meeting with some of the first responders there, also going to talk to some of the victims before he makes his way here to Southern Georgia and valdosta. What i can tell you about the situation in georgia is it may not be as bad as it is in places like north carolina, South Carolina, tennessee. But its still not great. As you can tell from where im standing, theres an unbelievable amount of damage in value valdosta, in the neighboring communities. There are Power Lines down, Tree Branches that need to be cleared, and there are intermittent power outages, depending on what part of town youre in. Its difficult to get Cell Service in many locations. Its going to be some time before the Community Rebuilds and gets back to normal. We saw a restaurant, opened out on the street corner, had a table set up and was providing free Food And Water because there is still not a guarantee of access to that even in a town Like Valdosta that wasnt hit nearly as hard as parts of florida and north carolina. The big concern a lot of people have in these communities that we talked to is how quickly are they going to be able to get the federal aid. Thats part of what the president is doing by these visits now. In north and South Carolina yesterday, in Florida And Georgia today. His message to the people of the community is tell us what you need, and we will do everything we can to get it to you as quickly as possible. Chris. Ryan noble, Thank You very much. We want to show you a live picture coming from boone, north carolina. This is governor Roy Cooper taking some questions there. Boone is in the mountains, app mountains, 50,000 people have put in applications for fema assistance. Its starting to go out. They have put out 6 Million so far. We reported earlier that fema is concerned that they dont have enough money to get through the hurricane season, but right now, resources are getting in to places like that. Again, were going to listen to Governor Cooper and if theres any more news out of that, we will let you know. In 90 seconds, though, Election Workers under threat. Our look at the extraordinary measures being taken to protect them, including Panic Buttons, and Bullet Proof Glass. Glass the first time you try bounce, it hits you your laundry feels way fresher and less wrinkled. You start to wonder. If i put a sheet of bounce on my boss, will it make his wrinkles smoother . Bounce cant do it all, but for better laundry. Put a sheet on it with bounce always dry scoop before you run. Listen to me, the hot Dog Diet got me shredded. Its time we listen to science. One a day is formulated with key nutrients to support whole body health. One a day. Science that matters. 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Reporter the construction nearly finished at durhams elections office. Set to reopen with some startling new features. This is already the Bullet Proof Glass, and more is going to go in right here. Absolutely. Yep. The whole front of this will have the same glass. Reporter Bullet Proof Glass at the front desk, ballistic doors reinforced steel, and in the new mail room. Right here is actually where the Panic Button will be. Reporter a Panic Button, one of several in the building, and a separate Exhaust System in case of white powder scarce. Did you ever think you would have to put in something like that at a place like this . Not at all. Reporter derrick bowens, the Countys Director of department elections. A lot of things we hear require us to have a different security posture. Reporter with everything you laid out, is there any concern that its overkill . We dont feel that at all. The safety of election officials, the preservation of democracy and making sure there is no interference should come with a limitless perspective in terms of preparatiOn And response. Reporter its not just north carolina. More than 90 of local election officials reported stepping up Safety Measures since 2020. From Armed Security in washington state, to active Shooter Training in arizona. To reinforced barriers outside facilities in pennsylvania. Its unfortunate that were spending so many resources, time, emotion, thought on this. But we have to do it. Theres no way around it in this election. Reporter it comes after years of attacks on the democratic process, stemming from former President Trumps Election Fraud lies, and now nearly 40 of Election Workers say theyre facing abuse and harassment. The fbi recently said its investigating threatening mail sent to officials in multiple states, after last Years Interception of letters with suspicious powders, including one that tested positive for fentanyl sent to Election Workers. Some say they are not deterred but determined. This work is like fighting for your own family. Its the Front Line in preserving our democracy, and to me, you cant find more impactful work than this. Reporter Hallie Jackson, Nbc News, durham, north carolina. Well, joining me now, alise jordan, former white House And State Department Aide to george w. Bush and msnbc political analyst, and former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner, an msnbc legal analyst. Im trying to figure out, elise, how you would convince people to work for an election when an office has to be equipped with Panic Buttons and ballistic doors reinforced with steel. That was a really eerie package from hallie, i think about my parents who, you know, they always volunteered as Poll Workers on election day. And usually the volunteers are retired and older people, and why would they want to bother with this. Its people who really care about their civic duty, who care about preserving democracy, and its a shame that this is the level, the tenor of the conversation that its so nasty that were wasting resources on Bullet Proof Glass at polling places, instead of using that money our schools, say. Yeah, and, glenn, The New York Times reports that republican groups have already filed nearly 90 lawsuits challenging Voting Rules and practices, including a dispute over Ballot Errors in pennsylvania, a challenge to mississippis rules on late ballots. Lawsuits targeting Voter Rolls in arizona and beyond. The list goes On And on. Is it clear if they will all clear by election day, could they have an impact, and is this part of what were seeing, which is having this negative effect on peoples perceptions about the integrity and the safety of elections . You know, chris, its hard to imagine all of these courts will work their way through the system, not only the Trial Court, the Appellate Court and ultimately maybe the Supreme Court, which might be the goal of some of these Trump Associated Groups. Some of them i would call crazy challenges to election rules. And, you know, its hard to envisio

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