Porsche North America CEO Kjell Grunner recently explained in an interview with Bloomberg how the automaker, and car companies in general, are lagging behind smartphones when it comes to in-car tech. As a person who loves cars and tech, this is super exciting to hear since I’d argue most vehicles are still using infotainment systems that feel old, even if they’re brand new. It’s not that these older systems don’t work, but when you compare them to CarPlay and Android Auto, they feel unintuitive and retro. Even newer systems like the Android Automotive-based version in the Volvo XC40 Recharge still cling to outdated design tropes.