There from london, as you can see uh, we are going to straight into the demonstrations taking place there, and thats the propalestine solidarity rally thats taking place in Central London, from what we understand, theres about four or five different organizations that are involved in this uh gathering uh that took place, which is why in part it explains a large number of protesters that took are taking place in this um campaign rally, and uh, its the the the numbers are so high that obviously just the in shots, aerial shots would be uh giving it credit as to the depth and uh the large numbers that have shown up here uh lets uh maybe if we i dont know if we have some of audio behind this since its an aerial shot but uh you know some estimates are putting this at around maybe 2000 people uh to have shown up one of the largest rallies that uh uh the uk has witnessed uh there you can see for yourself uh with this shot just how uh big rally this is its uh very interesting to to find out what uh people they people in the Uk Parliament think, what parliamentarians think, what the uh Prime Minister wishi sunak thinks when he sees uh the how many people have come out uh to uh show their um compassion behind whats happening with the palestinians and they are calling for of seasefire ultimately to be one of their demands. Said our correspondent joins us to tell us more about whats happening. Said what do you have for us . Do you have my voice . Doesnt seem like we have a connection with sapers as of yet so im going to just continue with uh looking at these protests and explain to you what were looking at. See, its a protest thats happening for show solidarity with the palestinians and this is happening in Central London, its one of the biggest protests that london has seen when it comes to uh the number of people that have come out um roughly around 200,000. This is uh one of the biggest marches for palestinian uh rights that may maybe british history has seen. Said puraza, hopefully is with us and he joins us now to tell us more about these protests, said, over to you. It is the biggest marches taken place in couple of hours ago, it is the biggest since the uh says. Of okay, we do apologize uh, this uh maybe is because of the large numbers that are out there and maybe s trying to get a space to speak in anyways, theres some audio problems there, and uh, well hopefully get him back in here, so um, again, the shots are amazing, you know, in the middle of your screen, theres are people that are out there in the uk in Central London that have come out to protest, 200,0 people is one of the numbers given out in terms of the number of people have shown up. Some calling it the biggest march for palestinian rice in british history, we cross on over now to kan yunis and speak to ashref shanan, ashref shanan, tell us what you have, we understand the rafa Border Crossing, not only is it closed, one report indicated that it was bombed, is that accurate, what do you have for us . Well, i dont know about the bombing of right now, but whats happening right now behind me is of is a massacre that took place many. Ago not of far from when we standing next to an or school, there was a twostory building that houses two families and most of the victims, came here with children uh and minutes ago the director of the emergency room took the body of one of the girls she was about six months old and and her body was charred and and and this action actually is still going going on ambulances are still coming in bringing bodies of victims and trying to find survivors uh we all of us here inside nassar hospital, we saw when we heard the rockets, every everybody ducked because we felt that the rockets what were coming to towards the hospital itself, its about 300 yards uh south, sorry north of of of the hospital that that house was bombed and uh destroyed, killing almost everyone in the house, two two separate families, i believe that there is at least according to some of the eye witnesses, at least 30 people were inside that house, mostly women and children, and most of them are dead now, cave and were still waiting for more ambulances to bring in more more victims, this is this is what what israel is doing, this is the socalled powerful and ethical army is doing is killing and maming children in gaza, not only bombing a house, but also bombing a house right . Adjacent to an honor of school with thousands of of of internally disp displaced persons are are are seeking refuge so imagine the feeling of those or hiding inside the hospital from israeli atrocities and they have three rockets i counted three rockets one after one after another we saw them we saw the first one and then we we docked and we can we can tell. From the uh the dust coming out of the area, initially we thought it was honor school because from the explosion, the loud explosion and the dust was coming out, you can tell its right across the street, and this is what israel is doing amid the silence the International Community and and and the ongoing normalization of ties between some arab countries or actually most of arab countries in the Persian Gulf Region with the Israeli Regime. Yeah, thats quite incredible, um, its also very telling how theyre just uh doing that next to the uh the hospital there, uh, what happened to that Evacuation Order that they issued for the alquts hospital, of which we understand theres about 5,00 uh um, i think patients and many who are injured there, are just there to uh, see when they can seek treatment, is that uh something thats going to happen, listening to the evacuation, which many say its impossible to do. Well, i think uh, israel will bomb that that building, the alquds hospital, which is part of the palestinian red christen society, today the uh, they fired uh at least 10 rockets around it, at the same time they were firing rockets around Shifa Hospital in gaza city, the quds hospital has 400 patients and some, according to the director of the. Hospital 12,000 idps, internally displaced people, persons are are are taking shelter in that place, they have no place to go, even those 12,000 people, if you get them buses and and and bust them out, what about the 400 patients, how can you take them out . There are no roads left in gaza city anymore. Okay, thank you, im not going to try to um continue with you because i feel like youre getting extended here. Uh were going to cross on over back to london uh and see if we have said is a three is a charm hopefully said if you hear my voice go ahead i i hope uh you can hear me too i certainly can hear you im on trafalal square uh within walking distance of the uk Prime Ministers office and what we have been seeing since 12 oclock today on the time its wave after wave. Of people of londoners and people from other parts of the country uh descending upon london coming together here to form this matter throng of people to uh make our voices her and they are telling us that they have two messages that to put out there, one is the paleus people telling the not standing this on their own that they have. The backing of the International Community, the people around the world, behind them, also another message for their respective governments to one here, um, the uh one of the organizers i talked voted a recent poll uh that found out 76 of the adult public um are calling for immediate succession of israeli hostilities or what a lot of the the people here are describing is ethnic cleansing that is taking place against the Palestinian People in in the ghaza stret um there is no shortage of of superlatives that people are using to describe the horrific scenes that we have been seeing um all across uh social media elsewhere images that have have been pouring in from the occupied territory just to read really some the flackards that i can see in addition to the flag despite thes earlier um threads of falling carrying. Yeah, sayid, unfortunately were just not not uh having a a clear audio from you, even though we did have it when you first started out, so hopefully we can get that fixed. Alamis dick deek is atorney and human rights activist who joins us from new york. Limick, welcome to the program. Um, not to sound like a broken record, but every human life, in this case palestinian life matters, and uh, the grim reality is uh, something that. Maybe is uh beyond words in terms of the shock that one experiences when when we hear these figures. 1,760 children to have been uh murdered now, 976 women, 30,000 injured, since 1 p. M. Our correspondent said there have been 24 fatalities, probably more because khan yunis right next to where he was was bombed and save the children says that a child is dying every quarter of an hour in gaza, where he says uh. The children says this cannot go on, so why is this going on . Why isnt there a preventative steps taken . Um, this is quite clearly a result of the refusal of the western world, specifically europe, the us and canada to allow anything to happen, time and life is absolutely disposable, as you know, this did not begin two weeks ago, but rather has been. Ongoing for 75 years with the express um support, political, military, financial of western powers and thats the reason, they are the obstacle to ending this, and its quite ironic that it is they who are violating their obligations under International Law, it is they who are preventing the implementation of International Law, and it is the global south and the axis of resistance, which they have awfully named the. Of evil that is calling for the global order, world order and morality, calling for the implementation of these basic, very firm, very Clear International laws to be implemented, and the reason that it continues is because the us and europe insist that it it continues. Do you find it quite amazing when you read the headlines of many of the uh dominant Mainstream Media where the narrative is so skewed towards israel . But when you take a look at whats happening on the streets, its the other way around how people are uh writing the story and the narrative that they are spelling out and what they are screaming out is for the palestinians. Isnt that incredible the divergence that you see there . It is. I think its important to underscore whats been happening in the us and in europe for quite a long time, which is the the break the social contract between the government and the people, um, the betrayal of. The voice and the and the votes of the people in the us and europe, its not something thats particular um to the global south, but thats really what were seeing, if we look at the history of Mainstream Media coverage of palestine up until the 60s and 70s, it is vastly different from what we see now, and its a direct reflection of Us Government policy, and there is coordination and embeddedness between both the us and Israeli Governments and mainstream. Media, including the very powerful, allreaching social media outlets. We see this all on facebook of course, and we see this on x twitter that there is this alliance between these corporations and the government, um, which is a skism between them and the masses in the us, in europe and in canada, certainly, um, its surreal, but it underscores the betrayal the government of the very people they claim to represent in the western world. Uh, well, given your capacity as atorney from uh the title, im im curious as to where there can be lines drawn when it comes to uh the military assistance uh provided to nations, in this case uh the u. S. Providing the type of military assistance that it has provided israel, which uh, in some respects, like the use of the fosphorus uh munitions uh is illegal and yet is provided to israel, along with the fact that for example you had this us official who has resigned, he was the director of the congressional and Public Affairs for the state department burea of Political Military Affairs who said that uh the us rushed to provide arms to israel, which he described as being shortsited, destructive and unjust and contradictory to the very values that for example the us exposes to, but yet the us has done that, shouldnt there be a line drawn there in terms of the types of military equipment thats provided and how it should be used in war . Certainly um first of all the one of the reasons that i believe his name is uh josh paul resigned was that what the us was doing at this very moment and has been for many years even per his words is violation of whats called the lehi laws um this set aside and the lee laws stipulate quite specifically that governments and individuals who are engaging in Human Rights Violations should not be receiving um military support from the Us Government. At the same time there is, youve heard this, im sure time and again, there is the textbook definition of genocide happening in palestine right now caused by the israelis and with the aiding and abeting, which is completely illegal under International Law and it is considered the highest crime under International Law, along with based on reports that this is being coordinated, i would even say incitement to genocide. The problem is that International Law, domestic law, federal law, because there should be and there is actually us federal law on this as well, is not self executing, meaning absence of body and agency, the department of state, um, International Agencies capable of implement International Law, and in the case of genocide, it requires the criminalization, the prosecution, the legislation against acts like this, but without anybody to execute and implement these laws, they remain abstract, and again, what were seeing is the global south, the axis of resistance, the majority of the world, calling for the execution and implementation of laws that are intended not only to protect palestinians, but to protect world order. Um and it is the global south and axis of resistance thats calling for their execution and implementation and it is the us and europe who are flouding these laws um and its not lost on the world certainly not lost on the Legal Community and even the employees of of at the highest levels um this contradiction is not lost on them that these vanguards allegedly of democracy of law and order are the ones who are flouding and violating the most basic important laws domestic and international, but absent a person, an agency willing to execute and implement them, this is what were left with, which requires the people and the global south to act on muss and to articulate, i would i would say and i would ask that the the you know the states, the people start articulating that what we are doing, our support of palestine is actually our upholding of our duties under International Law, which require both the criminalization. Of genocide and steps to protect people from genocide and even when there was a call for what was called pauses when it came down to the un, it seemed like uh the us was not even up for that along with its allies because you had actually two of them be proposed, one was drafted by brazil and the other one that was proposed by russia of which for example the second one was one that was rejected by the us where along with britain, france and japan uh they uh did not go for this humanitarian. Ceasefire um and the reasoning given that there was no mention of israels right to selfdefense and the first one because hamas was not uh mentioned in it uh is your reading into this as what some analysts have said is the us wanting this war to continue um how do you whats your interpretation of it . I mean certainly i think its been very clear that even um with regards to the casualties bidens statements on social media have consistently only blamed the palestinians for their own debts. The us has made it very clear that theyre not interested in any humanitarian ceasefire, any real meaningful um stop or pause. In fact, you know, its been under discussion by the Legal Community for several years as to how do we structure the un to stop these scenarios from happening, specifically the constant ability the u. S. Um in its role as a member of the Security Council with veto power to allow any progress on the implementation of International Laws including the geneva conventions. I think its very. Clear that the us is very much afraid of losing its ability um to be the dominating power in the middle Eastern North Africa region to be able to dominate the the the the region and really the world um financially and militarily as im sure you know palestine is one of the most geomilitarily strategic um spots on earth. I think thats one of the main motivators, its ability to access southern europe, africa um and asia through palestine um visas uh. That their their military base, the their most important military base uh called israel is certainly a critical factor in this. It was you know in the late 50s that the us really took over the role of britain and being the dominant world power. I think in light of what were seeing um the rise of this multipolar world where they are being economically and politically and even militarily challenged by the east and by the global south, um there is a desp. Attempt to hold to their power any cost, certainly at the cost of palestinian life on mass, thats been the case for many years, again as you know, this did not start two weeks ago, the us has been uh providing direct military Political Support and cover to apart tide, to the incremental genocide weve seen in gaza, there was a massacre just two days ago again a refugee camp in the west bank, i have a distant cousin, but a cousin. Was killed the day before the saturday gaza uprising, with full, with full, very clear us cover, so this has been t