Ever not there is fortune is asked and made it into billions and billions of dollars and. Globally minded person who could theoretically be investing his money in lots a worldwide project if it werent for the western sanctions because businessman and sportsman put aside. Close circle today my guest is actually about the. Western sanctions against russia are affecting companies and industries but they also targeted russias most influential businessman personally whats it like to be persona non grata your own country will trade ties between russia and the rest of the world survived the sanctions and is russian business so dumped into its new reality and did you know Something Better than what its great to have you on our program that this really really happy because we have lots to talk about on so theres just no why. Great idea in the west that slapping sanctions against certain people their assets their kompany will push those people to create an opposition to the russian president and that will ensure a result in a policy change youre one of the 1st people who are hit by the sanctions and they mean they havent been since then its been 5 years and the sanctions havent changed russias stance at all how long are you ready to sustain this pressure like forever. Would probably be better without sanctions since its easier to do business and sanctions do have a certain negative impact on the business. That were living under the sanctions we had me for a while now and will continue to do so. Doesnt bother us really and there are no major disruptions here. Is that how much money have you lost because of sanctions and youve got your new. Number. No there is no such figure or there was the 1st wave that mainly affected to banks because there was a global roche and people started withdrawing money from their accounts and they took out significant amounts out of our bank. At 1st it did a failed operations then we took a number of steps and explain to our clients that it poses no actual risk to them and thankfully they believed. So there is no danger. Basically we didnt lose anything you filed a complaint to the European Court of justice challenging the restrictive measures imposed on us what are you hoping to achieve i mean the europeans imposes sanctions against you and they did it legally is based on the loss what makes you think that the European Court of justice will overturn it i challenge the sanctions and it was before. We started building the crime near the bridge so they had no basis for imposing sanctions i went to court and i warned. Dissensions against me in 20142015 or unlawful work. To 15 we started rebuilding the bridge so they extended just sanctions and made them what. For you was more about them acknowledging the fact that the sanctions against you are lawful and unfair rather than going to getting something bad yes it was about lowering justice because we believed it was completely unjust dissensions were imposed will no reason whatsoever we would build the crimea. Well we still have a bit to finish up with the Railway Tracks and we will be. Reference of what precious businessman has of state owned companies they stand united in saying that sanctions are all full they hurt business but you know will manage to pull through my at the very end will become Even Stronger as an ordinary person well i dont really see any opportunities here i dont see that things have somehow improved over the last 5 years. I dont see them where do you see them could you explain what the somewhat changes are and how the sanctions are modernizing our economy are pushing us forward. On a say i dont get it. The sanctions have influenced operations of course you know i simply meant that we learn how to live on to these sanctions. Its not the end of the world we dont scare us. Let them get all of their past told me that sanction i mean a lack of Foreign Investment which is very dangerous for the russian economy and that this whole thing is actually about opportunity strangely rather than opening up how come you dont share his passion is. I think hes being too pessimistic about this one. Take a Greek Culture for example. There is been a fusion breakthrough. Now we have a new technology. Were moving away from the row experts roll. Because we had to produce something ourselves or develop our own technology. That is definitely a good thing. That we go now we need to get results thank you very. Fast we could afford to be idle and would things often work or not or do them at all but now we need to do. In the past. If we start falling behind if we slow down. We will fall behind. Completely. So we have to be proactive all the time. Because it would be easier without saying no question about it. So you say. Thinking about the legacy behind what after crimea breach of a dream or maybe a claim to build something similarly impressive. Fails in march. What could be more grandiose than the crimea bridge. There is a number of things really i think its like giving birth to a baby we have made this rage and now its hour of daybreak i have many children how can i love one of them more than all the others i have to love them equally for russia the bridges on down to the a very important life was a challenging project. For times they tried to Start Construction and failed. I have many new projects in mind. I dont really want to go into the. But we do have a dream like. Your presence your will be working for a while yet. But you know with whom with why do you think that you know you are interested with a crime a construction. Very important projects because your presence close friend and he knows you for a long time. Or because he says Something Else and you because of their lot of rich people in russia but somehow you got interested in what this project why. Many take this to be honest. Some were afraid to buy some new. They wont be able to finish the construction many had relatives in ukraine or firstly our capacity whether or not we could build the bridge there was then they made a decision and said if you trust us with it we can tell you this project and build the bridge so you know an engineer architect you spearheaded the construction of a unique region you had to act together a team that you could trust 600 percent how did you ever see that word i mean how did you pick the experts consider that im going to build or youre not a specialist yourself i mean if anything had gone wrong and responsibility would have fallen on you not the team. Youre right im not an architect and i didnt mention the instruction works. Only too well the one that would happen that we did not build a bridge at the truth be told i couldnt sleep at night knowing. All this 3 and a half years. Yes i actually never talked about this those arches would put that was one of a kind operation. It was a meant to be they were trying to imagine is where all the g. Is would work seamlessly similar to any of slinging if one of them broke down the bridge would be doomed we had never build anything that ambitious and that is why i knew that if we pulled through them i would have something to be proud of and passed songs to our children. But you turned your life upside down and you dont regret it at all because you cant even lake get a vacation outside russia actually. I could go places anyway since i was on the sanctions list so my life didnt change march i do love russia i love the most people who know a lot of places where it can have a really good time especially now that we have crimea crimea by car. It was absolutely stunning and i did i regret nothing i have you know many children and i havent lost my now but judge will live and i do enjoy a good. Chance maybe on some balance so were going to take a short break right now while were back well continue talking to business men and president but closest of friends ive got you know at the back stay with us. Costs. Of thought. And a very warm welcome to you youre watching us inside. With 10 minutes to spare trumps pulled back from attacking iran reception of this new split down the middle or depending on how you view the president what is not talked about is why the u. S. Feels compelled to go to war washingtons obsession with iran is hardly over. At our own birds or head. Or behind 40 feet but so. 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To go right to be close to survival before 3 in the morning cant be good. Im interested always in the waters of our. First city mall. And were back when businessmen are rocking their. Effect. You know i mean there has to be a reason for this common approach in russia which is you can earn money in russia you can only steal it why cant people make money and be honest about how can we change it i mean its not like we can eradicate corruption by endlessly putting people behind bars one after another i mean look at china they have a death sentence for that just like what it during stalin times but every once in a while presidency and other corrupt officials. To my mind what we need is a real lucian rechange of. Your right saying that restrictions and punishments would get us nowhere and you forbid your child to do something they only keep thinking about how to do that very thing anyway. So no prohibition xenon of these numerous arrests but i think an even our president said that they can stir up some fear. But they will not bring fundamental change. In the deal so how do you have big businesses i mean do you personally see the socalled high profile corruption expos as you published by either the or the opposition that the number actually does this get on your nerves even Pay Attention you know it may be actually disciplines you i think. That we need to expose so that everyone. Has to be. However we should not go over the top and the problem was that we were to loss of. Our own talent. But that keeps you on your toes right. All the sanctions in place is there any hope that well be able to actually benefit from the basic breakthroughs in technology in Artificial Intelligence i mean you know we should advance our own Scientific Research but the west. In the us in particular that at the forefront Technological Progress right now where are we going to get new technologies i mean im already thinking in this china south korea perhaps. We are smart enough i think. Well never be lacking in mathematicians Software Engineers physicists or anyone else for that matter so we have what it takes to develop. So we just need to stop competing with all cells and because everyone is hugging the blanket. Someone develops a new technology was because they keep it to themselves not willing to share at any cost should be vice versa and we need to join our efforts with a. Certain amount socialism and patrie it isnt because when everyone is on their own thats capitalism of the snow when theyre one is on their own group its about capitalism this way the only thing we get is a handful Small Companies but a little capital of the world where. I think it is way better to. Major company look at what alibaba and male dog. Building something really big. And that would be a huge step forward to. Start and will have what it takes to actually grow and develop take a look at the Defense Industry through even though no one in the worst wont we would actually do it but we did. That one then we will need to invest in technology as much as we did in weapons is this happening. Yes and that is exactly the plan of course the west is not going to stand and wait for the day were trailing behind but we need to move forward any way you can lets turn as if. We can find a way to snipe some new technologies from them they would respond with more sanctions and. Will be cut off and would have to go asking for handouts. For example if you show intelligence this is serious. Anyway when you to move forward whatever it takes and we shouldnt expect help from anyone i mean when china. And into the potential we have to. Do we even have the money im not sure we have the yes absolutely mind is more asian long its almost like you always had every ambitious slogans completed a 5 year plan and 4 years ago used to say in the soviet times so if we give our people enough inspiration and somehow unite them there will be nothing we couldnt do just as it happened with the crimea break ill talk about that we pivot to the east to china i mean is it a good idea for Chinese People i talked to they say that this is good for us in the International Arena because china russia together are a power to be reckoned with and i also spoke about that with a lot of people from the political and business circles and they think that the chinese are very difficult partners actually and its difficult to reach an agreement with them on their loans are expensive while the terms and conditions are oppressive also could you share your experience ive had some experience of dealing with them even though i dont have any joint projects or the chinese at this point. Or the chinese have a whole different mindset thats. Very different. And that you encourage russian businesses to pull their money off from the off shores because of the risks and the west can arrest the money at any moment in this war of sanctions so why would a russian need an offshore i dont i think ordinary people have certain tastes of the word why cant our businessmen just keep their money in russia. Which one is it is that unprofitable you. What happened because for some time there was real life. Everyone believe that it was all on stable and on the reliability. Of the thought that and if one was great over their russian businessmen they want to do business in the west and it was. Everything away from them in russia which now is the opposite of a business as outside of russia were snatched letters frozen old blog and whine about it and no one can take your business away here and we are good all we have is in russia. Nothing is there are certain but i believe the Business Climate is Getting Better and better. And im asking this because after crimea there are rules of the game between major businesses and the kremlin have obviously changed now and a businessman who lives in russia and who is wealthy enough has to build Something Like you had to build a bridge back but slapped with sanctions right person asks to finance a project and you know our business is so we have no other way than to agree on the whole this way they all have to contribute somehow to russias geo political interests to compare that to what we had 10 years ago this is not freedom at all i mean your so on free well. If you look at the situation with the bridge for example the president. A year to come here youre going to build a bridge and if you dont. Quite the opposite actually. To consider the risks and i was aware of the risks what do we do here we do to our country or because our words should live here and we have no plans to move anywhere else. But why shouldnt we build this bridge when you talk to all the groups many of them saying this is local. To all our money here under this president why should we take you somewhere else. Telling us what to do with our capital but the words and you go out if you want to in this here in this. Why not only i mean our thought of what your alive would be like when the president is not your close friend. Experienced something similar in georgia. No one power change happens in our countries you would say that people that you thought you could rely on in here somewhere and this is very surprising because its not at all likely saudi would be even understanding youre very close with him president 6 but what is your life going to be like when he was president. You think about. 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