A lot less and joining us today to discuss the legal and ethical end of the new brain to computer interfaces it is legal and media analyst lionel offline on media thanks for joining us. I like the ethical part because when it comes out the x. Your guy. Was sued the ethics i am the standard bearer of that dont laugh i am you know i may both you and me were not going but i love your this show right now is looking i think many people still believe that this type of technology is you know buried deep in our future but we actually are very close to this becoming reality and i was reading some words like within 5 years even line are you ready to let facebook read your thoughts rather than take the time to type them. Promise me this well 1st let me thank you for talking about this because i have been screaming about this to the point where people are saying is he being about this because we have this cutesy idea about its not great like robots isnt that great a i r 2 d 2 how sweet danger Will Robinson oh i Love Technology which is the way it always comes about. Let me ask you this question in reverse you know when we have. This perennial subject of today aqua fatty or trans union had millions and millions of of Social Security numbers hacked that people go crazy one have somebody hacked my brain to start off without one thats amazed up anything you put in me anything that you are able to either through telepathy or telemetry or anything how about this reading minds through my vocalisations you know when we think something believe it or not we sometimes say it and there are little pieces of almost that tape as you can place on or about the the throat area to pick up actually pick up micro vocalisations how many times have you watched something thought about something and on your screen lo and behold google wants to sell you that. Burial plot when you were thinking about and passing away now there is a rule here if youre hearing about it now its 5 years old but anything you hear now and then what they do is they also they enter it they start to talk about it like maybe one of these days we could sucker berg says you know maybe one day well be able to do to 2 thought coming and facebook them is already in the works so my question is who prevents or even thinks about not the evil dr no word somebody but somebody who just wants to hack your thought change your thought affect ability perhaps create the perfect warrior the perfect student the perfect spouse the politician i mean where does this end and is anybody even thinking about it those are my course those are those are really good question where are those available. And which brings me to want of what you said the. Might well of a vacuum. If i think one of the biggest concerns is this idea of taking something that could be really brilliant to help you know people with physical disabilities and all of that and turning it into this idea of neuro capitalism and cyclists they should have our data you know i am all for if we can help people with that but what is this idea of neuro capitalism and what are some of the dangers you know that it can represent to people you know were all Walking Around looking for you know a little alexa to just make life a little easier but whats the danger and that well the danger is number one is unregulated because theres nobody and this is i think of the most important part is that when somebody comes up with this there is never the ask the system valving because we are so tech crazy im a tech nerd hey im a Silicon Valley guy ive got this new thing where you look at you look at a phone and it opens it isnt that cool. When you have a generation that has been. And brought up in captivity who doesnt even appreciate what the notion of privacy means how my supposed for the 1st part 1st time introduce them to it then begins to into the notion of transhumanism let me talk about that for a moment isnt it great that somehow we can actually by virtue of science. Allow somebody who has lost a limb to to have it replaced and to have it done say mostly through thought yes what could go wrong the 1st person who ever made the night food said i have this great device here it cuts and i can use it to skin animals and here would you like to see it and he would like probably stab you know alfred nobel we know those stories so every single thing that weve ever done whether its from the you know the aspirin probably to now has saved more lives probably wouldnt even be allowed in the market today its that dangerous so whats it going to be and that all of that is going to come under being presented right now because a researcher at Zurich Marcelo has proposed a sort of international recognize right specific to our thoughts and our brains in response to this new technology in fact chiller has 2 bills that would make brain Data Protection a human right but they cannot go in and mess with your thoughts take your thoughts mess with your mind business or governments and i ask you is that what we should be talking about should that be in the halls of congress do we need to clarify a set of rights for our our thoughts and our minds or does our existing laws already protect them do or does our bill of rights already have that protection and would just be overkill. Bill of rights no but youre on to something how do i take a generation and because lets face it the older generation were gone for in the back 9 nobody cared about us but the you but but the newer folks ok and i speak only for myself here but if i could somehow take the interest that we had over night in ringback paper. 1st straws recently it was something i would say are you seeing this people who dont care about anything war as our eyes jim all did nothing but all of a sudden by god were not going to have Plastic Straws if i could say good you have that in you you have a sente and part of you you have an impasse think part of you now lets see if i can take that a step further lets talk about somebody taking over your mom and taking over your and dont be dont let some smooth talker come in to say listen tyrrel a taboo that whenever a comedian speaks hes affecting your opinion whenever somebody shows you a film we understand that thats what makes us human beings stop the gobbledygook and the poppy cock and stop this what were talking about is simply this do we have either ombudsman do we have our own ethical standards where we say yes go ahead and implant something to stop seizures were all for that however you have to satisfy us that this device cannot be put in to make a person more malleable to make him voted a particular way to make him buy something or thats thats what we as a citizenry have to do collectively we most over want to do it thank you for using the word poppycock by the way not all of what i mean you know those are the words you have to offer is a poison of your own but its a once or. Thank you. Tragedy struck off the california coast on monday as a commercial dive boat caught fire just in the water near Santa Cruz Island with more than 30 people reported to have been killed by the fire and many are now left wondering just how this tragic fire happened in the 1st place and what if anything could have been done to prevent prevent it r. T. America correspondent natasha suite has more. Such a rare horrific tragedy on this Labor Day Weekend and after 20 bodies have been recovered another 14 remain missing and Authorities Say that after 7 missions and no signs of life they have called off all search and rescue efforts 5 crew members were able to survive lets take a listen to the distress call made by the captain experienced. You just heard the captain of the conception call into the coast guard after waking up to a massive boat fire around 3 30 am monday just east of Santa Cruz Island 75 vessel was carrying 33 passengers and 5 crew members 34 of the 39 aboard the boat were reportedly sleeping below deck when the fire broke out and in the distress call to the coast guard dispatch was asking the captain if he could unlock the lower deck so the passengers could escape but according to officials the boat was fully in Safety Compliance right there is nobody thats really the key problem because the majority of the people were the passengers on the ship and the sleeping compartment is in the bottom deck of the ship so they would have been sound asleep when this fire started so you can imagine that of all scenarios to be in a remote location had a fire that occurs have eliminated any firefighting capabilities that could address that and then they have all the center fire discredit very very rapidly. You couldnt ask for a worse situation 20 victims have been transported to the Coroners Office 11 females and 9 males diverse spotted another 4 to 6 victims within the wreckage the captain and 4 crew members jump. In the water and were rescued by a Good Samaritan with a boat called the great escape the owner of that boat says there would have been more than enough room for everyone to leave the burning boat and to safely be transferred back to the marina the vessel reportedly sink to the ocean floor about 20 yards from the shore 4 hours after the fire began right now its sitting upside down in 62 feet of water diving excursion to explore San Miguel Island left on saturday and was jus back monday evening and as the family and friends remain in the state of shock authorities have set up an Assistance Center and their officials are hoping to give loved ones the information they need and a psychological care if so desired and authorities are still trying to determine the cause of that deadly fire in Ventura County natasha suites. As with rogers dont forget to let us know you think about topics to cover the social media be sure to check out watch watch the podcast with his Neighborhood Watch spotify open because everywhere you will see the pod coming up with us President Donald Trump holding your Campaign Fundraiser in Beverly Hills some democratic celebrities are calling for the list of the to be published in the new hollywood blacklist be in the works lets find out the truth. She stressed to make sure that the british and the bill of the tap that was to. South asia was thank you she didnt taste the face to face so i pushed. Her to which she deaf im not what you see in our midst its future come over to me for sure i. Want to talk to you sort of through my eyes youre going to be. Good to mr hazlewood supporter. Or does he seem to be valuable to teach the student actually a person to be wrong or should stop him speeding. Ever since the arrival of Boris Johnson to 10 downing street theres a growing sense of inevitability that brags it will be executed on october 31st with or without a deal how did we get to this point what lessons have been learned and ready ready ready. I am sure to stop at the continuing to grow. I just never know very good about the idea of bringing children into the world because i didnt feel like things were in very good shape that a life was just going to be a lot of software programs. Theres no reason were more to. Take things that are to me that. Theres no reason to make Something Else that isnt. Everybodys scared to talk about it survival is truly dependent on us addressing this issue and if we cant even talk about it and we can even have a conversation about it then. Were in trouble ready. The protests in hong kong show no signs of stopping even in the face of threats of force from the police and even as a number of activists with the with the mint within the movement were arrested over the weekend r t americas michelle greens thing is in hong kong the latest. These days in hong kong what starts as a peaceful rally often turns violent citing this violence the Hong Kong Police banned a march that had been planned for saturday they warned that anyone in attendance would be liable for arrest refraining from or unlawful valan. But that didnt stop thousands of hong kong ers who came out to march anyway fight for freedom stand with hong kong liberate hong kong and hong kong is not china these are all chance that ive been hearing this afternoon its saturday and protesters have been out in full force for the better part of the day even though those marching were breaking the law Hong Kong Police wouldnt make the 1st arrest until much later. As saturday evening sets in protesters around government Headquarters Police hold up a warning that reads disperse or we fire some try sending flares and petrol bombs over the barricades as police stand on the roof with rifles at 6 pm someone sets one of the barriers on fire eventually the pepper spray comes out then the tear gas and finally a water cannon sometimes its laced with blue dye away for the police to identify suspects later as the sun sets hundreds of riot police move in to break the siege demonstrators warn each other and retreat here you can see some of the bricks that the protesters have been throwing at the police we also saw some petrol bombs being thrown by these demonstrators as well now over here you can see that riot police have arrived to push back against the protesters that were approaching the Legislative Council now that this caused all the demonstrators to start marching that way after retreating from government headquarters protesters build a massive barricade and set it on fire using petrol bombs its about 7 30 pm and a fire has broken out in the one shy district now this is right in front of the headquarters of the Hong Kong Police. The Fire Department arrived. At this point the. Cers have advanced to the next flashpoint causeway bay the police are not far behind at causeway bay protesters prepare for the arrival of the riot police on the front lines they tied tripwire their arms and bricks and cocktails when our camera man tries to record these weapons protesters shield them with umbrellas and i was able to get some of this footage with my own when tear gas is eventually thrown by the Police Protesters through the canisters back the night culminates in 63 people being arrested for criminal damage possession of offensive weapons and explosives and Illegal Assembly since the protest had been banned on sunday protesters set up a barricade around the airport with luggage carts they disable security cameras and damaged property they blocked access to the airport and forced travelers to walk miles into the city their damage of the nearby metro station forces its closure monday night remnants of the weekends events hang in the air the demonstrators have blocked both the red and the yellow lights at this traffic stop to have the sign read Free Hong Kong now its monday evening and the scene here in front of the government headquarters is actually pretty calm weve had students mostly young people i got to say i have not seen a Single Person that looks over 25. 00 in this crowd here tonight Hong Kong Police say a total of 159 people were arrested over the weekend the situation remains fluid and beijing has reminded the International Community of its authority to declare a state of emergency in hong kong if the unrest and disorder persists through watching the hawks Michelle Greenstein r t. 1947 the House Committee on unamerican activities a pain i just started with 79. 00 hollywood actors screen writers and producers on the claim that they were subversive and that they injected communist propaganda into their films now some are comparing the cold wars darkest days what america turned on and turned in their fellow americans for the crime of having a political view. Some did not like which brings us to 2019 when the Hollywood Reporter no did that president tromp would be attending a fundraiser in Beverly Hills thats when Television ActressDebra Messing calls for the Hollywood Reporter to quote please print to a list of all attendees please the public has a right to know of course political contributions are Public Record and massing along with anyone else can find out who has given money to the Trump Campaign all by themselves then only in the Hollywood Reporter however the idea of make an a list of people who may have attended a political oven smells distinctly like 50 shades of mccarthyism and a make matters even weirder massing took the attention on her comments to post an invitation to texter or 4 more indepth private discussion with the will and grace star take a listen twitter is grade but i wanted of way to communicate about issues and to go more deeply then we can on twitter so text me crazy. Maybe but what is entirely unsettling for so many is whether Debra Messing scholes for lists will stop at the top brass of producers and financiers or will it spread to which cinematographers caterers and production assistants will be allowed to work how many will lose their careers their homes their livelihoods for another cold war red scare that history will of this array just as brutally as it did the last one and will those like messing ever understand how dangerous their rhetoric truly can be boy thats a that is a really good question because i dont know at this point when i see folks do you know what i see her doing Something Like