Computer interfaces it is legal and media analyst lionel offline on media thanks for joining us. I like the ethical part because when it comes ethics your guy we do de ethics i am the standard bearer of bad but i dont laugh i am you know i mean both you and me both know that but i love your show right now is a little you know i think many people still believe that this type of technology is you know buried deep in our future but we actually are very close to this becoming reality and i was reading some words like within 5 years even line are you ready to let facebook read your thoughts rather than take the time to type them. Promise me this well 1st let me thank you for talking about this because i have been screaming about this to the point where people are saying is he talking about the thing because we have this cutesy idea about its not great like robots isnt that great a i r 2 d 2 house we danger Will Robinson oh i Love Technology which is the way it always comes about. Let me ask you this question in reverse you know when we hear of this perennial subject of today of course fads or trans union had millions and millions of of Social Security numbers hacked that people go crazy when have somebody hacked my brain to start off with that one its a nice thought anything you put in me anything that you are able to either through telepathy or telemetry or anything how about this reading minds through my vocalisations you know when we think something believe it or not we sometimes say it and there are little pieces of almost that tape as you can place on or about the the throat area to pick up actually pick up micro vocalisations how many times have you watched something thought about something and on your screen lo and behold google wants to sell you that. Burial plot when you were thinking about it and the passing away now there is a rule here if youre hearing about it now its 5 years old that anything you hear now and then what they do is they also they enter it they start to talk about it like maybe one of these days we could sucker berg says you know maybe one they will be able to do to 2 thought come and facebook them is already in the works so my question is who prevents or even thinks about not the evil dr no or somebody but somebody who just wants to hack your thought change your thought affect ability perhaps create the perfect warrior the perfect student the perfect spouse the politician i mean where does this end and is anybody even thinking about it those are my course those are for those are really good question where are those available. And which brings me to want to know what you said the i might well of it that i could be a man if that. But i think one of the biggest concerns is this idea of taking something that could be really brilliant to help you know people with physical disabilities and all of that and turning it into this idea of neuro capitalism going to say well if they should have our data you know i am all for if we can help people with that but what is this idea of neural capitalism and what are some of the dangers you know that it could represent to people you know were all Walking Around looking for you know a little alexa to just make life a little easier but whats the danger and that well the danger is number one is unregulated because theres nobody and this is the type of the most important part is that when somebody comes up with this there is never the ask the system involvement because we are so tech crazy im a tech nerd hey im a Silicon Valley guy ive got this new thing were look at you look at a phone and it opens it isnt that cool. When you have a generation that has been brought up in captivity who doesnt even appreciate what the notion of privacy means how my supposed to for the 1st part 1st time introduce them to it then begins to into the notion of transhumanism and we talk about that for a moment isnt it great that somehow we can actually by virtue of science. Allow somebody who has lost a limb to to have it replaced and to have it done say mostly through thought yes what could go wrong in the 1st person who ever made the night food said i have this great device here it cuts and i can use it to skin animals and here would you like to see it and he would like probably stab you know alfred nobel we know those stories so every single thing that weve ever done whether its from the you know the aspirin probably to now has saved more lives probably wouldnt even be allowed on the market today its that dangerous so whats it going to be and. That is going to come under im being presented right now because a researcher at Zurich Marcela link has proposed a sort of international recognise right specific to our thoughts and our brains in response to this new technology in fact chiller has 2 bills that would make brain Data Protection a human right but they cannot go in and mess with their thoughts take your thoughts mess with your mind business or governments and i ask you is that i will we should be talking about should that be in the halls of congress do we need to clarify a set of rights for our thoughts in our minds or ringback does our existing laws already protect them do or does our bill of rights already have that protection and would just be overkill. Bill of rights no but youre on does something how do i take a generation and and because lets face it the older generation were gone for in the back 9 nobody cares about us but the you bid but but the new are folks ok and i speak only for myself ear but if i could somehow take the interest that we had over in night in ringback paper straws were recently it was something up say are are you seeing this people who dont care of about anything war of as says our eyes geom alden nothing but all of a sudden by god we are not going to have plastics draws if i could say good you have that in you you have a sente in part of view you have an empath think part of you now lets see if i can take that a step further lets talk about somebody taking over your ma a nd taking over york and dont be dont lead some smoove talker come in new say listen tyrrell in tab of the whenever a comedian speaks hes affecting your opinion whenever somebody shows you were film we understand that that what makes us human beings stop the the gobble to go look at the poppy cock in stop to this what were talking about is simply this do we have the their ombudsman do we have our own ethical standard where we say yes go ahead and them plan something to stop seizures were all for that however you have to satisfy us that this device cannot be put in to make a persian more malleable can make him voted to particular way to make him and buys something or or thats thats what we is a citizenry have to do a collectively we most over were of do with thank you for using the word poppy car by the where i now art all of why dont we have you know bowlers are dollars your own her have to offer is of closer have your own purges the once or bank you tragedy struck off the california coast on monday as a commercial dive boat caught fire just in the water near Santa Cruz Island with more than 30 people reported to have been killed by the fire and many are now left wondering just how this tragic fire happened in the 1st place and what if anything could have been done to prevent prevent it r. T. America correspondent has more. Such a rare horrific tragedy on this Labor Day Weekend and after 20 bodies have been recovered another 14 remain missing and Authorities Say that after 7 missions and no signs of life they have called off all search and rescue efforts 5 crew members were able to survive lets take a listen to the distress call made by the captain and seriously. As you just heard the captain of the conception call into the coast guard after waking up to a massive boat fire around 3 30 am monday just east of Santa Cruz Island 75 a vessel was carrying 33 passengers and 5 crew members 34 of the 39 aboard the boat were reportedly sleeping below deck when the fire broke out and in the distress call to the coast guard dispatch was asking the captain if he could unlock the lower deck so the passengers could escape but according to officials the boat was fully in Safety Compliance right here you know not even actually anybody probably because the majority of the people were the passengers on the ship and the sleeping compartment is in the bottom deck of the ship so they would have been sound asleep when this fire started so you can imagine that of all scenarios to be in a remote location have a fire that occurs have eliminated any firefighting capabilities that could address that and then they have all the said fire discredit very very rapidly. You couldnt ask for a worse situation 20 victims have been transported to the Coroners Office 11 females and 9 males diverse spotted another 4 to 6 victims within the wreckage the captain and 4 crew members jumped in the water and were rescued by a good summer. And with a boat called the great escape the owner of that boat says there would have been more than enough room for everyone to leave the burning boat and to sea fleet be transferred back to the marina the best the reportedly saying to the ocean floor about 20 yards from the shore 4 hours after the fire began right now its sitting upside down in 62 feet of water the diving excursion to explore San Miguel Island left on saturday and was due back monday evening and as the family and friends remain in the state of shock authorities have set up an Assistance Center and their officials are hoping to give loved ones the information they need and a psychological care if so desired and authorities are still trying to determine the cause of that deadly fire in Ventura County natasha sweets r t os were going to watchers dont forget to let us know what you think about topics you cover the social media be sure to check out watch watch the podcast with spotify up because everywhere you see the pod coming up with us President Donald Trump holding your Campaign Fundraiser in Beverly Hills some democratic celebrities are now calling for the list of attendees to be published they do hollywood blacklist works lets find out if they too. 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The protests in hong kong showing no signs of stopping even in the face of threats of force from the police and even as a number of activists with the with the men within the movement were arrested over the weekend r t americas michelle greens thing is in hong kong the latest. These days in hong kong what starts as a peaceful rally often turns violent citing this violence the Hong Kong Police banned a march that had been planned for saturday they warned that anyone in attendance would be liable for arrest refraining from all unlawful and valan. But that didnt stop thousands of hong kong ers who came out to march anyway fight for freedom stand with hong kong liberate hong kong and hong kong is not china these are all chance that ive been hearing this afternoon its saturday and protesters have been out in full force for the better part of the day even though those marching were breaking the law Hong Kong Police wouldnt make the 1st arrest until much later. As saturday evening sets in protesters around government Workers Police hold up a warning that reads disperse or we fire some try sending flares and petrol bombs over the barricades as police stand on. Roof with rifles at 6 pm someone sets one of the barriers on fire eventually the pepper spray comes out then the tear gas and finally a water cannon sometimes its laced with blue dye away for the police to identify suspects later as the sun sets hundreds of riot police move in to break the siege demonstrators warn each other and retreat here you can see some of the bricks that the protesters have been throwing at the police we also saw some petrol bombs being thrown by these demonstrators as well now over here you can see that riot police have arrived to push back against the protesters that were approaching the Legislative Council and now this because all the demonstrators to start marching that way after retreating from government headquarters protesters build a massive barricade and set it on fire using petrol bombs its about 7 30 pm and a fire has broken out in the one shy district now this is right in front of the headquarters of the Hong Kong Police. The Fire Department arrived about the fire at this point the protesters have advance to the next flashpoint causeway bay the police are not far behind at causeway bay protesters prepare for the arrival of the riot police on the front lines they tied tripwire their arms and bricks and cocktails when our camera man tries to record these weapons protesters shield them with umbrellas and i was able to get some of this footage with my phone when tear gas is eventually thrown by the Police Protesters for the canisters back the night culminates in 63 people being arrested for criminal damage possession of offensive weapons and explosives and Illegal Assembly since the protest had been banned on sunday protesters set up a barricade around the airport with luggage carts they disable security cameras and damaged property they blocked access to the airport and forced travelers to walk miles into the city their damage of the nearby metro station forces its closure monday night remnants of the weekends of a. In the air the demonstrators have blocked both the red and the yellow lights at this traffic stop to have the sign read Free Hong Kong now its monday evening and the scene here in front of the government headquarters is actually pretty calm weve had students mostly young people i got to say i have not seen a Single Person that looks over 25. 00 in this crowd here tonight Hong Kong Police say a total of 159 people were arrested over the weekend the situation remains fluid and beijing has reminded the International Community of its authority to declare a state of emergency in hong kong if the unrest and disorder persists through watching the hawks Michelle Greenstein r t. 1947 the House Committee on unamerican activities subpoena just started with 79. 00 hollywood actors screen writers and producers on the claim that they were subversive and that they injected communist propaganda into their films now some are comparing the cold wars darkest days what america turned on and turned in their fellow americans for the crime of having a political view some did not like which brings us to 2019 when the Hollywood Reporter noted that President Trump would be attending a fundraiser in Beverly Hills thats on Television ActressDebra Messing calls for the Hollywood Reporter to quote please print a list of all attendees please the public has a right to know of course political contributions are Public Record and massing along with anyone else can find out who has given money to the Trump Campaign all by themselves i dont mean the Hollywood Reporter however the idea of making a list of people who may have attended a political event smells distinctly like 50 shades of mccarthyism and to make matters even weirder massing took the attention on her comments to post an invitation to text her for more indepth private discussion with the will and grace star take a listen. Twitter is great but i wanted a way to communicate about issues and to go more deeply than we can on twitter so text me. Crazy. Maybe but what is entirely unsettling for so many is whether Debra Messing scholes for a lists will stop at the top brass of producers and financiers or will it spread to which cinematographers caterers and p