Question of secret need to see things in perspective its righteousness this is a this is a global event which is which is why i think were struggling with this in such a way because it is very read it you that you encounter something that is global rugged and national reaching. Its not too wolf it does must strive for 6 years as we know it is not that intensity if i think back to my my grandparents i grew up in another the incident in the netherlands towards the end of 95. 00 which is not. In the know also colored people died of starvation because it was a severe winter and there was a severe shortage of fruit. I think this is a crisis but remus make sure that we dont turn this into a drama. Things will change things will change because the have to change things for change because they can change sinks will change to stabilise marxist and things will change to make matters better so i think we need to we need to keep this into perspective hurt so lets accentuate out the part of things will change that you know gradually what will change and what that means will this new generation of people coming out of carotene lake a semester on late education or maybe to we dont know maybe theres a bit of there are waves of corona in september and people will still have to be doing their course as our last white ballets will a generation have will they be socially responsible more and more eco conscious than prior generations when i think i think part of that has to do with our attitudes us adults im not a speck tensional 000000 s. So sure there is a danger dutch the next generation. Will grow up to be a free a School Generation a generation that doesnt take any risks because we keep telling them to be canceled theres a danger that schools for example will engage in less than less out of School Experiences and sad school the learning experiences of young people will will not now we are in charge of this and we see educators in the seattles need to be mindful of that so thats worse than cool down a sink 2nd day you can do different hope. And im an optimist those on the board of tunis. And i live in hope i think we will see a generation that is more kerry. We will see a generation that is more kind we will see and a generation that hopefully is more fat. And honest because they will have learned with their parents with other groups over this period that those qualities are the best qualities not expand has in terms of access to medical care and that caring and being kind to as a people is a good thing and honesty which is not always displayed by our leaders and politicians for example but that honesty is a good thing because you need to trust. And i think that we will and hope that we will see a generation that is much more emotionally intelligent and much more aware of the world around them than certainly we are. Emotional intelligence has become such a huge factor in all of this actually i was talking to this amazing nero of Science Scientists the other day and she was saying shes almost 80 years old she and i must say this here scientists or engineers think there are 3 things that are going to save us in this tsunami Emotional Intelligence empathy and curiosity would you agree with that and would you would you agree that this is what we should be installing at our kids. I think so yes but but not to us theory so because these things you cannot teach those things you can you could make children aware of them but you need to put them in situations you need to facilitate situations rabbi they can experience those things because curiosity do google curiosity is a very different curiosity into real life curiosity and touched your curiosity honestly i would out a force to that and it is attached to curiosity if couch related or risk taking because because there needs to be an active. Outcome in this and active outcome his to do things to have a purpose and to move forward to rather than to see arise in the schooling kind of way and i think thats incredibly important and with of course you dont link to the aspects of of resilience and aspects of persevered and its those qualities of not giving up even if you get things wrong wants or even if you find that you dont like so finding that you dont like so zigs is a positive another negative so i would i would on the element of calculated risk taking to got natacha to teacher eos a key element of this report you much has 1st i mean a lot isnt hands on what our Education System and its going to look like after the economics were all waiting for this to be over but we are seeing it as we see how the whole system is being transformed our and further and we go ahead at more rehear add up the thing that you know their own line education is the future and this is going to replace a 1. 00 to 1. 00 Class Communications sort of education so what is your take he didnt think the the Education System itself is going to undergo a drastic change. So i sincerely hope so i think one of the things that isnt done to make me smile positively or not this at times is that the distinction we have. In the future we need to address as a matter of urgency now so so i think i think a test greek crisis often changes ground her case and changes to speak of implementation. I hope im convinced that or lying will not replace offline it would be a very bad thing if that house. And i think one of the interesting things thats happening is that many things that would meant to her death were for cost right futurists more techie people who have these people. I think will they will prove to be wrong to schools particularly the Elementary School has proven to be such an important factor globally in coping with this because the school all of the sudden is much more to do school it has become a Community Center where in the core of disadvantaged onsen there were people of access to people of access all sorts so i think we need to think around not what is going to be replaced but what is going to be different schools will exist they might not quite exist the new way to june out and one hopes that it does because the way schools exist that im open goes back to the Industrial Revolution the way that we teach children which should be just as youre saying that everything is based being paced out 5 instant everything that was supposed to happen in 10 years is happening now what youre saying youre saying all an education is excluded its not going to replace 1. 00 to 1. 00. Class ok so that thing where there isnt one what will change 20 thing will be different about the educational system that were going to be after this next i think 1st and for was just to come back to the core i think Online Education will rip will online will play an important part in the future of education it will not replace. It will not replace want to watch it real and hunts it it will add value it will allow children to learn differently individually it will allow children to learn differently in groups because the groups can be everywhere and it will allow children access to knowledge quicker and better and the kind of access that you cannot get in this group it will not however replace the classroom deschooling will throw remain the focal point of the way to teaching ok since the exit is out of the communication the student and teacher get 1001. 00 will say the same youre saying in their own way catherine is just be an addition to will have any have and i think and i think we also needs to when we have this conversation i think we need to have a picture in our head of what remey by the child and who we mean by the child so the one thing that is absolutely clear that this crisis allows you to shine light and sometimes those lights are shown in areas that are less attractive and one of those less attractive areas is the enormous inequality gap that clearly is still less too much child are we talking about when were talking about Online Learning are we talking about the child who goes to the Independent School in moscow or in london where the parents can afford a big house the child has a room on his or her own and has access to i pads i phones laptops and whatever else or are we talking to the child who lives. Interfet you sandra who lives on in a bit in the disadvantaged deprived areas house this small where there is no Internet Access when a parents cant hole. Or not which child is it were talking about so i think we need to be extraordinarily minds that when we have this conversation that we dont generalize and that we need to link it to real people i think the biggest danger that has come out educationally to distrust is it has highlighted. Inequality that exists and i think one of the success educationally. That changes access to the internet for educational purposes needs to be added to this that essentially schumer right professor will be right back whatever battle continue talking to professor cantor house about how the new generation will be shaped after they coded 19 pandemic s. Over staring us. 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How would i define hollywood is they call it a dream manufacturer which i thinks true but i think equally its a problem and the fact. Geysers financial survival. When customers go by. Then else well reduces our. Thats undercutting but whats good for market is not good for the global economy. We go to work so you can stay home. And were back with professor gary grass talking about what happened to youngsters coming out of the code 19. More than anything this crisis has highlighted the gap between the wealthy and and the poor in terms of how their children are coping with the online courses and also correct me if im wrong but i do feel like 99 percent of parents of their kids at home figured out that the only of course is there is no way they. Can be you know something that would replace one on one education with a teacher is specially for them beginners i mean when you know your attention spends so little and you need to be guided a step of the way i mean you can expect like 678 year old kid to sit in front of a computer for 5 hours and be focused on whatever stitcher is saying right with them but then youre saying that that for sure now i understand that they own education will not replace what i want to keisha but youre saying that we will have the additional all at platforms so youre saying that we should make sure that everyone has access to those platforms and that is the that is the firmest cold for the future that is the 1st. Next thing that we need to do is we dont need to send. Or qualify rather than invent the place that Online Learning has within this Big Education crease and ill give you a very simple example so so if i say. If im talking about teaching children about traffic for example read up car traffic or public transport or flying then to be able to use the internet to interview kylix cabin crew and people who design glades to touch a touch of reality to our practice and experience to siri the internet is a super. Tool to do that so so dot content development and i didnt value is immensely important but of course it always brings us back to that 1st point if you havent got Internet Access you are excluded from high quality education not fact they also access to internet and they not have access that is his hat is that surely if they are going to have the addition of a lead platform to help them cope with their education. It is some somewhat sketchy b. Has to make sure that as kids will filter when to seen internet and what not to say so i think i think that is a whole new big dialogue and part of that is a dialogue of trust and of joint responsibility so every child will become everyones response to that and you know we have a very odd at times arrangement i smiled a number of occasions during this crisis so for example everybody was complaining that children were spending too much time online terrible. All of a sudden we want to spend time online because weve discovered a moment sealed a way to take into so that debate seems to shift that night as the debates that need to shift around who is responsible for what and one of the things that are not super clear about is that we need to address the issue of parents asco educators not just parents who send children to school and the times so want of a better way of putting it absolves their responsibility but i truly doubt that education of the child is in tandem and in partnership i also seeing incidentally is an interesting thing is that ive been a have always been of the good citizen children quickly as a follow up question before i go on sorry for. Interrupting you but dont you think will be tapping into a dangerous territory if we have parents as coeducation or sick as well as have this really clear cut sort of division that school takes care of education and herons take care of bringing up i mean you know getting good morals out of making better can set good human beings and getting that access to good education and then at school takes care of education do you think teachers will be ok with parents starting to coeducation they have to take the kids we need to define this let me give you a very simple example so schools are there to school and not debt to educate children educate your children is a much wider spectrum schooling is monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday 9 to 4 delivering to subjects teaching the subjects that the rick government requires them to see the education of the child underwrote of the past and is isnt adding value so for example again you have just studied. This shakespeare. Curing in an English School is just 3800. 00 or much ado about nothing whatever it is. The role of the pair are made and well be defined as erect the plate in trust youve interpreted the play in class the parent does homework define really home who it will be to as a family either go and see it in the series or all watch it on a video at home so that the child has a good im gald 2 approaches why would the not so education is a matter of coal educating deschooling is a responsibility of the school heres another. Large question i guess is the knee are generations of digital age if they cant imagine life without cash heads which are for young people becoming a National Extension of themselves so handwriting as a scale is becoming obsolete and adding in her that reading handwritten tax can be add as time went by for that is that thing or is it just the natural course of evolution sam trying to figure it out for myself of that for the children. I know i works. There is research to suggest that that is the case and i would strongly advocate particularly in the early years of schooling i. E. The equivalent of Elementary School but how writing just like arithmetic is a skill is a life skill and desolate needs developing we will take notes who take quick notes. We will practice writing in a creative form and it just allows its the functioning of the brain that allows the child to develop better than just put him in front of a keyboard and teach him to talk. Ok talking a bit more about putting a hit in front of a key more Computer Internet the mountain information that comes into our lives for the internet is growing exponentially and what i may find overwhelming fourchon days kids is natural and they never get thrilling this dashing flow of information is an indication that the new generation actually is smarter than us. Small. B c i think theres a small also very quick to access web today. Too. To try to progress that information and for judgments to other right judgments that is to be seen. So ive reserved and i have a 40 year old and full of admiration i think what shes able to do i was never able to do but then i suppose if i look back what my parents sent of me is that was i was able to do they were able to do so perhaps thats a natural progression anyway i do think however that we need to rethink in general that role of technology and education and the role of technology and would have been working a good number of years and every time a new Technological Development came along i was strongest it would make my life easier i was even promise that i might work 3 and a half or 4 days per week and have more time to myself i now have a global role if i dont turn my phone when i go to bed it will bring 24 hours i promise you its not made my life easier and surely we would like to equip our children with just give to make that works and we dont just talk about full time employment but we talk about self deep roy so that they also know how to go to a museum and a gallery. If it will not show whatever it was really going to do without spreads are that weve been promised so. The title of thinks an interesting life has had many here are scientists lately and they tell me that our brains and the brains of people before the internet and present Digital Natives or a completely different way are helming to the big generation gap with aldus transformations. I dont know im not sure that we are im not sure that the generation gap were heading into is any bigger than that which you and your parents realize. As everybody for generations has been talking about about generational jumps i just think we do need to think around and again i think whats happened is that the to speed with which technology has has evolved. In a sense is faster than we can keep up with and if i look for example of the influence of social media on on young people i think we need to be very mindful of the Mental Wellbeing within this enormously Rapid Development