As a free striving towards joy as long as a. Violated the rights of others so even the american Founding Fathers to have centuries ago defined it as something for us actionable and 2nd time to an individual. I gathered from your blog that modern day neuroscience approaches it pretty much the same way. Actually my work is not representative of modern neuroscience i took early retirement to do my own thing separate from academia so i cant speak for nurse science and i think they see it differently because of modern medical model suggests that happiness is the natural default state and if youre not happy all the time then thats a disease and they can fix you and i absolutely disagree because when i Study Research about research on the animal brain from the past it shows that animals have the same happy chemicals that we have and theyre not just signed to be on all the time theyre designed to alert you to specific opportunities and thats what makes. And this is such a great point because many philosophers many writers have long approached happiness as a kind of a metaphysical category but whats interesting about it and whats practical about this approach is that it treats it as essentially a regulatory system that if what informs you on the things that either threaten oprah mold to your survival there is nothing philosophical about it as far as i can get its pure chemistry right. Youve summarized it perfectly. However to add one more thing everyone is wired differently because despite the fact that its pure chemistry which turns the chemicals on and off is what ever turn them on and off in your unique individual youth which is just a random collection of experiences so one child in one family might have totally different experiences from another so whatever turn on my dope i mean insert tone and when i was young that i had gives me a pathway and thats how i seek it in the future but those pathways as far as i understand there are no old sad and stoned theyre pretty strong especially when theyre formed in. Very young. But its still within the power of an individual to either reshape them or perhaps substitute than but some other pathways yes exactly and i equate it to learning a Foreign Language in the sense that your old health waves are like your native language which you would not warrant if you built it from a huge amount of repetition but you dont remember that so your native language comes to you effortlessly so its a same with your emotional responses they got wired in from a huge amount of repetition now they feel so effortless that you just take them as the truth and you dont realize that you actually built them and you have power to build new ones but its as hard as learning a new language and we all know that its possible to learn a new language but it takes so much repetition most people joe absolute am the best example of a by the way illyria tolstoy whom i mentioned in the beginning or was a good example too and he famously said that all happy families are happy in the same way but all im happy families have their own special where from happiness as far as i understand when we apply that to individuals their verse is true and happened this has the same taste for everybody if the taste of course has all but when it comes to this good feel by its actually derived from or different sources and each one of them has its own distinct function without those loretta. So the ones i talk about are joe pany and sarah tell an oxy towson and endorphin and ill give a very quick summary of what turns each of them on in animals and then my website and my books and videos go into a lot more detail so dont i mean is the good feeling of meeting a need so if you imagine a monkey waking up hungry in the morning it needs food when it sees food in the distance its like oh wow i can get that and thats what we like is that feeling of oh i can get that and because our stomach just fall were not constantly searching for food so we need other things to give us this oh i can get that feeling in our telling. Oxy towson in animals is the good feeling of social support so animal sick hurt for safety in numbers and protection from predators and humans often romanticize this and think that theyre always supporting each other but when you think about it in a herd there will always hiding so that someone else gets eaten so if you feel frustrated about your hurt place do not romanticize this and its the fact that our brains are the record when we are isolated because an isolated animal is threatened by predators and when an animal goes to the her it feels like it and let down its guard and thats when an animal eats though we want that feeling i can let down my guard because im safe with these people now im related to that is sara tone in which is also a social hormonal right yes exactly and so we have 2 different social urges one of us acceptance and belonging and serotonin is different it reflects the real competitiveness among animals which has become quite tepid where i live in Northern California everyone likes to think that theyre not competitive but then theyre belting others for pink who have it. The fact is all animals are competitive not just the top ones because when the top one disappears another one quickly and theyre always fighting to get more opportunity because of serotonin rewards them with a good feeling but its not a question its a good feeling that i can meet my needs because im strong and im respected if its reflective of your place in a social hierarchy and the 4th one is indoor fit which is and this is something that really surprised me we all think of indoor him as this you know slasher hormone but you lay out in your book that its actually a natural painkiller its not exactly its not giving your pleasure as much as it is masking the pain. Yes we could call i call it a euphoria that masks pain which is the way humans experience it but in the animal world its only trigger when theyre actually in pain and if you see a wildlife maybe open an animal has its flesh ripped open by a predator but its still able to run because for 15 minutes endorphin masks pain and then enables you to act to save your life so if a caveman broke his leg been for a short time he could go get help but then were not meant to have pain all the time and mask it with endorphin were meant to protect our injury and not cause ourselves pain and i dont know if you would agree with me but i think we rely on and or friends and way too much i mean i dictions are a big problem in mahmouds developed countries and what struck me when reading your book is that. Almost all at dictions are ultimately undergirded by endorsements which relieve the pain in the short term by force to find it in the long term should it even be categorized as a happy chemical because it seems to be such a double faced side kick to court is all. I see what youre saying ok i think youre confusing 3 Different Things to opening endorphin and theyre dremel and so if you dont mind a so into orphan what people say runners high but runners dont get it every time they run but only if they run to the point of pain but a tic sion so if youre addicted to opioids thats enjoy our fun and also heroin but not cocaine cocaine is. Dope meet with dope and mean its also whether a person over eats or smokes or is always looking for another romantic opportunity its the i want more i want more i want more so that part of every addiction regardless of what youre addicted to so it could go together dont mean an endorphin now finally adrenaline is excitement so some people love excitement some people hate it some people love to climb mountains and watch horror movies and others hate it so its that. Little bit of threat and now lets talk a little bit about cortisol because were in the stressful times we all want. The last of it but as you make the case in your book act heart is always neither good or bad in fact it can be very useful when you understand how it works and how to process it not only a metabolically but also mentally how do you go about it. So 1st is to understand that its the chemical that tells an animal that a predator is about eat it and in the state of nature there was a lot of pain in daily life as you were you know maybe climbing through thorn bushes d to get berries to be or running after an animal but in the modern world were so safe we have this huge alarm system and we have nothing to do with it so if you dont get would bite it to a party. Which you were hoping like or if you dont get a promotion so every time youre hoping for a good feeling and you dont get what you hoped for you turn on natures emergency broadcast system and then you get a little bit of corn azzam and cortisol does its job by telling you to look for danger because when a gazelle smells a predator has to find the predator so youre always looking for danger in that turns on more quarters so when you know that youre doing that you can know that you created this sense of danger instead of believing that the world really is so dangerous as i was actually at a major revelation for me that while the in the nature of threats to our survival hast changed our signalling has stayed the same so whether you are stuck in traffic or out whether you have lets say allocation with you with your colic it still feels like danger danger im about to die do something about it and in your book youre actually recommend resisting that to do something and sort of getting used to that discomfort now thats easier said than done isnt it. Yes so i have a new book called taking your anxiety and then there was an inbetween book called the science of positivity so the idea is that if youre already wired a quarter. Its all is designed to make you not have to touch a hot stove twice so everything that ever hurt you in your past thats what your brain is looking for if you want to focus on the positive you have to build those new pathways if you want to not run when you when you smell a predator you have to build new pathways so i give a simple plan to do that and i make it easy i think well dr burning lets take a very short break now but we will be back with the discussion in just a few moments. Is youll be a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. The isolation community. Are you going the right way or are you being led. By. What is true what is. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. For a mate in the shallowness. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race based on often scary dramatic developments only really im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down. Tom. Welcome back to worlds apart with that selling author a letter at the burning dr bringing just before the break and were talking about your advice some of it is. Valid you would difficult to follow i have to say but one piece of advice that i found very helpful and easy to follow is essentially that consciously putting those 4 chemicals into a balance so for example as a cell driven manic like myself may benefit from strategically looking at oxytocin cultivation and being more mindful of the other people while for example a people pleaser would be. Made that i said more from setting goals and working the dual command pathway and more i guess what youre talking about here is simply be diversification of the tap in this production and you dont have to call it happiness happiness just such a general world but sort of cultivating your wellbeing and your sense of wellbeing. Yes so a big part of it is to recognize that our brain is designed to sequence chemicals to seek these good feelings because theres an h. There nature signal that you connect your survival needs so when theyre not on you have this illusion that your survival is threatened with theyre not designed to be on all the time so theyre designed to push just to keep going going in thats why everyone has this treadmill feeling and everyone blames society for this treadmill feeling but its not society at all i mention around sisters looking for food all the time in a harsh world thats what our brain is designed for a while as if they ran out supposed to be happy all the time but we are also not supposed to be and happy all the time and if you look if you look at the broad span of history really when the most prosperous the most accurate simple time in Human History and the other one would not be able to say that by watching the news and i think part of that is the nature of news of course is all driven information but another part is how we process that information how does one stay informed without succumbing to the emotional charge that comes with it. Great question so 1st i want to talk about common enemies so in the animal world errols would really rather spread out because if you look for food in a tight group youre poking each other and competing for food but as soon as they spread out then somebody is near a predator as soon as they smell a predator and they group together so humans have always grouped by imagining a common enemy so a lot of the newest is to worry you about a common enemy so that you stick with the group and then you just worried all the time this is the subject of my book the signs of positivity so the question is you said how to stay informed without having this distress level. I dont worry about people judging me for not being warm thats one thing its like if they want to think im stupid because i dont know what was in todays head like its fine let them think they are driving themselves down down a spiral while im investing my time productively and another part of that i say that because i read books i really 5 years ahead because books give you an idea of how things will be in the future and stick books in if you read history books will have better insight but you speaking about history wrote recently that. Everyone who has ever leave had this sense that they were leaving at a turning point in history precisely because the human brain is constructed in a way to interpret history with reference to its own needs and i think for many people its extremely difficult and im easy to accept that because in our societies we are sort of accustomed to or demonstrative lee here for others but when you focus on yourself it isnt that active social isnt that true self. Ill admit that there is a cost so if your with a group of people and theyre all in a rage about todays news or theyre all so worried about the fear of the day and if you dont share their fear they may act like whats wrong with you then i frankly dont even enjoy being in that so i need very careful decisions about how much time i spend pursuing my own goals vs how much time i listen to other Peoples Group worrying and. Its very individual depending on their childhood and how they got to enjoy either context but you dont have to believe any of these philosophies that tell you which way is better well as you still have to be part of the society i assume and you know at least for oxytocin production but bringing it closer to the news of the day. Racial tensions are in the in the headlines a lot a lot and as an outsider and i think as a russian i can say that when i look at the data statistically the black community is much better off now than at any other point in history including a matter is of Police Brutality even though the public clearly doesnt believe that to be the case and what strikes me about the us events is that most of the reaction is not about dope im in lets do something lets set the goal and lets fix it its more about oxytocin and sarah tone and lets get together and rage and despair each year clapping act out i was wrong on that. Absolutely true so theres 2 things one is that humans have always felt this way animals monkeys test and so i got started doing this i read so many books about monkeys and thats what they do they get together to fight another monkey and thats how they raise their status and that promotes their genes and Natural Selection builds a brain that motivates us to do this so the bigger question is 0 people always done this why is it but i cannot say this in public now i am saying it in public but an american with never invite me to say this in public because they would be worried that they would be ruined so its a sad thing and i always focus on taking responsibility rather than blaming others so if i were to take responsibility i would say that i was a College Professor for 25 years and i was part of the system that indoctrinated all of these young people with a marxist mindset and its tragic its horrible and i wish i had a simple answer look i am not an american and russian who was born into a society 0 that have tried to implement some of their marxist maxims in real life it didnt succeed but. I think people could tell i mean they even the natural response to your argument would be that we are not monkeys we have much more complex societies and we should not give up on trying to improve the society is giving up would be a dereliction of a citizens duty jast as much as blaming everything on the system would be an abdication of personal response a bit of responsibility where is the gold in the middle there. Oh thank you thats the topic of my new book its called status games why we play and how to stop and it will be out not for a year from now but im working it on now so youre right that the answer is the golden middle but it has to come from inside because as i mentioned our emotions are wired in like our native language so when children are reinforced for that certain ideas and patterns its hard to change every will later on so schools really need to not glorify this opposition to authority is the only valuable skill and i think thats what theyre teaching now and a lot of parents are also in this idea that opposition to authority is the valuable skill and i dont think its a healthy thing but i was a parent i was sucked into that trend like other people you know when i talk to you know angry black people or angry women are any other group that reserves the right to be collectively angry their argument always comes down to that compounding nature of the disadvantage and even if thats the case i think youre an individual always has a choice between seeing himself or herself as a victim in this circumstance or as a challenge or of those d circumstances what is the difference in terms of harmonial pathways that they spew different frames activate. Question so they idea that that based on you mentioned the beginning antidepressants forgot the words you used so the idea that everybody else has an easy life and everybody feels good all the time and im getting left out this is the basic thought paradigm thats built into the modern Mental Health system and modern psychology and academia and its not true at all other people are not getting free happy chemicals all the time so from a certain perspective its the idea that other people have status easily its just given to them they dont have to do anything white males have an easy life everything just comes to them its so not true white males have as hard a time as theyre ever everyb