Democratic candidate for President Joe Biden selects california. As his Vice President ial running mate. In beirut people gather at the port were devastating chemical blast that killed a week ago comes a day after the countrys government quits made huge pressure from the protests this. Is for this. Time to bring you the latest updates join us again that. Welcome to kaiser report Summer Solutions we have an exciting guest to talk about solutions you know during the year we talk about all those crazy problems out there and then during the summer we hit you with solutions thats right so lucians and today were going to be talking with o. B. No sue of coin floor. U. K. Stacy yes welcome to the show and we thank you everybody guys so 1st i want to go a little bit into a story here in america i know year british vi your family came from nigeria my family came from finland and ireland here max is from germany in scotland so everybody of course around the world has basically their families travel around the world but right now in america we have a situation post George Floyd Murder where. That has spread globally that there is this global insurrection against banker aka occupation max might say and i think thats right because i think yes there is institutional racism very much in america we have a long complicated history obviously with african descendants in america but in terms of whats happening here and how to how to get past this how to start with some sort of clean slate where we all can actually be equal on one Playing Field here in North Carolina where max and i live weve just had a situation in this headline here in historic move asheville approves of reparations for black residents in an extraordinary move the city council has apologized for the citys historic role in slavery discrimination and denial basic liberties to black residents and voted to provide reparations to them and their descendant apparently it wont be like a direct pay. That but it will be 0 basically a restructuring of how the local economy works where theyll push more. You know the make up force the past injustices by redirecting some of the allocated capital and things like that what i dont you know youre youre not part of the american scene but what do you think of how to reason do what reparations within the system just maintain s. S. Down or do you think what do you think reparations thats radio interesting as and as you have stated im not american so. Im not as close to it as some people i know but ive talked to many other people that youve had on your show previously. Like. Big queens a and and i was. The character as well but its really interesting weve seen this rodeo before i mean way back a car remember the names of president s because we dont were not required to learn them but i do know that. There were discussions with the previous president about reparations and there was the idea of and correct me if im wrong but the idea of every american slave whod spent their entire life and to so that the sentence is highlights for a number of over several 100 years would be given a set amount of land that he was 40 acres and a 100. 00 i believe and that was all that was off the us what was needed and they were they were offered that now given that the holding of stores of is the the number one that see the power of people are privileged and fumbled in their ability to study that ability to inherit intelligence or well smarts by many studies that basically they have been a teacher just be lucky enough to own. Appreciating assets. All the slaves offer was this land and it was offered and then unfortunately. The president who decided to greece this was was shot a few a few short while afterwards so id be very worried for anybody who was wanting to put in a similar policy. In the us if they tried to do it in modern days from what youre saying it sounds very very light touch and doesnt involve giving People Stores of value and therefore its not really valuable is focusing on the works when we all know that its the stores of value that the differences between the printers and the on the privilege will get into that star value as 2nd so its a fair to say based on your what writing and your interviews he believe the system is best play completely broken that reparations us just really lip service for many things and tried many times before never really comes through and youre thinking and believing instead to just exit the system and start completely know how would this work be pretty fair to say that i mean. I grew up in in Central London and as a country the u. K. Is i think on the scale especially london is a is a very Tolerant Society missing incredibly its a cultural melting flow is very multicultural. But even then i had scenarios where i was playing on the street as a kid and being spat sat by people whose would stop when that in the traffic at the lights because i grew up in a Council Estates which is i dont know how you describe it in the us but its like the projects its a low income parts of london. And you know we play in the spots that that was not an unusual thing to happen i experience various forms of discrimination through my life. Even when i was working in very Large Organizations i could see the differences were people who it work as not just me would get to i would still have to work twice as much twice as hard to get to the same level and thats that thats fine thats thats not a problem but being who i was i was i did feel that this was a problem for not just me but for society and the reason its a problem for society is that. Ultimately we want the society to reach its ultimate potential as quickly as possible and anything that stops you from doing that is some optimal so do logically the best people to work on any big given task should be the best people in the world now lets take an example of a space ship if i want to go to the nozzle like in a mosque here right now can only employ people who are in the us. He would like to employ the best people in the world and logically its unlikely that the best people to build rocket ships are not all in the us i mean i could be wrong but its probably the case and not all in the us so therefore the any rookie he makes to go to mars and get it will likely have more risk have more issues because he hasnt got the best people in the job so the entire world he and therefore by extension its i will loses out from any form of discrimination that isnt based on free things it isnt based on someones work ethic the quality of their faults and the quality of the argumentation you should discriminate on those things but anything else you shouldnt do and as long as he exists in a world where thats possible. We will always be it will always have a challenge and therefore i think that the current wont really exist and the situation is broken from as i would like to say and the only way to soothe the system not for out to space let you know must go into cyberspace and you write about a purely american crowd excess them and how do you get to the purely america crowd excess them and you suggest that cyberspace is the place to do it and you also write about how anonymity is very important to this pair meritocracy because when you say adopt an avatar in cyberspace in Virtual Reality the expectation is for everyone in that are different than what weve been used to because they are now interacting in America Craddock way because they dont really know that it cant see the person on the other end can you elaborate on us to give you some background. Was building free to Computer Games in the eightys and in the ninetys built one of the firsts online multiplayer virtual. School metropolis and then in the eights in the north seas. Built. One of the fellows was part of the scene of one of the 1st massively Multiplayer Online role playing games and we actually created a Virtual Currency could we put it this was before big cooking 50000000 uses. And so this is a Long Time Coming we its so someone whos been in that space its been very clear that this is the future of insurrection we are creating a new world and just like the explorers in the settlers when they felt that the old world was there with no opportunity for them decided to go to the us to canada they decide its exits and go somewhere else and the cook asian. Old well that is and new zealand and australia now i think every place on the planet says. If it should be populated most appreciate you take them and the only place to go is either outer space which will take decades and this is the kind of you dont for example i think far more interesting and family she was going into cyberspace this is new virtual building and thats where i think well produce use so in cyberspace of course we have additional money called big queen and big queen is on confiscated ball and that is one thing about starting from you know scratch because after the civil war in america for example as you talked about previously enslaved people were given 40 acres and a mule and some money and actually the black American Population did extremely well so well that it all got burned down so wall street in tulsa oklahoma there was a black wall street and durham North Carolina there was a hugely successful North Carolina city called wilmington North Carolina which was black run they were elected to office they ran all the newspapers they were super successful. Poor white people got angry and burned it down here we have your saying so Artificial IntelligenceVirtual Reality you can be and look like whoever you want to be right. And you have an unconscious capable money so. As we head out into the break you know pitch your story about how that all comes together to create and a true meritocracy yeah i mean. I think you gave the i know the example of the black wall street in tulsa but ultimately if you form a group and you are so identifiable there is a risk that people can identify you and therefore try to attack that. Inside the space from day one we are taught that the way you look doesnt matter in fact from every computer game he played you you take on the persona of someone else so in cyberspace the norm is to not look like yourself. And so when were building these virtual is what would happen is originally everybody would look like white males and white females in perfect physical condition all 6 foot 2 if there were guys and all that went away and met 55. 00 and and then after a year everybody would realize a bit like the incredibles where if everybody was sleeping no one it was reading boring for everybody sort of the same and so therefore they started to look like and you now see it and in current day but actually they look that theyre not limited by the imagination that they very even try to look human they try to look like working on the hot dogs or whatever it is they try to express that in a idea what is there and what is an imagination and so that the identity goes out the window they then she cites to discrimination i think is a natural state of humankinds say then decide to discriminate on other things and so you start seeing people say things like i can hear from your x. And youre from the u. S. Or youre from the u. K. And people with american accents tend to congregate and people in the u. S. Accents but this technology thats working to deal with accent concealments as well because was really clear is if you remove the things that thats not really good mechanisms to discriminate or you have left are things that are good mechanisms and as you say as you as you as you notice in these spaces you see people who. Really interesting really charismatic really eloquent they were. And thats the society we want we want the society to be what the code is who is able to deliver the most an able to meld. The minds of men to wards a direction which we believe can best society wow im ready to migrate to cyberspace they are going to take a break let me come back why would be no so l o y. O t no crowd. No shots. Actually felt. No 1st. Point should your thirst for action. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confront cation let it be an arms race in this on off and spearing dramatic developing the only im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to heal some air force base in alaska where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area russia. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it is 11000000000 barrels of oil. Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on the story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. Welcome back to kaiser report Summer Solutions are right where chatting with the no assume hes the c. E. O. Over there calling for dot co dot u. K. O. Before the break we were talking about how racism seems to be hard coded in our d. N. A. Its almost an instinctive human trait and all solutions seem to have failed including reparations and the idea of us going into cyberspace and achieving a true meritocracy by shedding all of our biases and prejudices and getting into Something Different now some would say oh you know what youre going to lose some of your into hope to gain the meritocracy youre going to lose some of your authenticity however and what yours what youre suggesting is that with with this idea of migrating to cyberspace we are actually potentially going to find our true worst selves a kind of our deeper selves so its very profound very philosophical and this is all about Summer Solutions but i mean this is an interesting concept and maybe just give it another minute or 2 and dig into that a little bit so theyre going to be saving the peoples views around race. I think its we want to get to wode where you can explain this in the u. S book why its male female. Over any religion and and know any fear of being able to do that. I do think when it comes to feelings that you can view visually. Be tried and tested approach to dealing with is money. And if you look at. Lets take again i am not jewish but jewish people from my perception receive a lot and have historically received a lot of prejudice throughout many many many centuries. However right now it doesnt seem to affect them as much as effects but people and the differences they say have money and there was a song the rap song in the in the ninetys because i was very interested in rap could money power respect and its very simple if you have money you can buy power by media power and you can buy political power and media power and political power you can then change peoples views and gain respect you can check you can lobby governments and you can change the media message to counteract incorrect messages with the correct message and over time most people will then see that and be be affected by that what they post and say and their views will change but 1st you have to get money and in a world where. Its not meritocratic it may be difficult for you to get to that point so not only does going into cyberspace and affectively allow you to expression in a you it also is a far more meritocratic well because you in this world your identity doesnt matter all that matters is your capability and the reality is there is a lot of people of every background who are pretty capable so over time the best people in the world will move up to the top and they will come from all backgrounds and they would generate money and with that money they can change their perception if it is negative of whatever background in focus of the perception of women at the perception of black people perception of being not not able bodied whatever it may be these can be corrected by the subset of people who have a vested interest in change that perception who now also have the capital to change it so it will bennett. Fit both the physical world and the nonphysical i want to ask though about this post real world i r l is no longer existing were all in cyberspace there is the legacy of basically we live in a society and an economy of that of can tell you an heiress you know the Central Bank Still exists and it printed money and i think this is what is coming to a head right now its i think you know the fact that since 1971 weve been on a u. S. Dollar standard no attachment to anything like gold or anything and so whoever had all the assets then which were mostly white men in america and they had all the assets they own the assets and everybody else kind of was left behind because of that like there was just a recent data out of the u. S. Fed that showed that black americans have have their back to basically 1968 in terms of where they are and in terms of the percentage of wealth of this economy like how how can we restart unless we end totally this can tell in effect life is a game and. Be the game that most apes is this game of monopoly and i thought of this idea that wouldnt be great if every every so often in life just like in the game it gets reset. And it turns out a friend of mine who is you know. Very very well read especially in religious texts told me that this is not a new idea in fact in the Old Testament they had an idea called belief that every i believe is every 49 years maybe 50 is some people argue its 49 to 50 everybodys debts would be forgiven if you look at socorro you so just something to slavery youd be forgiven and you would and the land you had would be given back to you is the effectively its the physical world equivalent of playing monopoly and at the end. You get reset and so unfortunately thats not able to happen it doesnt happen any more it doesnt happen in the physical well but. In the Virtual World i believe what will happen is o