Was for. Real radio received. Interest in relieving the requests. Billions those of us all freshman for see. This is happening. We go and the reaction has been exactly the same as it was way back. To alicia nice job last night the world reaction is made of green cheese. Well you know look im officially reported but with people who can do much good. Its. Less than a week until. The 20 with voting on christmas of very anxious America Christine todd whitman the c. E. O. With her take on this edition of politics. Welcome to politicking on larry king less than a week to go until election day. With voting lines across a very anxious america. Lets get perspective from a well a long republican or as in dos the democratic candidate for President Joe Biden she is Christine Todd whitman former administrator of the Environmental Protection agency the former governor of the state of new jersey the election is a week away of us in the week in the give me a look where you think you know ive chest i dont know i honestly dont know area its you know a trump voters clearly have a huge passion and they get more riled up every time he has a rally whether its those there are those listening and tweets and stuff and hes inciting them to riot basically and biden is out there if you believe polls hes going to win but i just i hope the intensity is just as strong on his side as it is on the trump side ive been delighted by the turnout snow thats great people finally recognizing that we have a responsibility in this democracy and one of those responsibilities is voting and for seeing our voters finally being we will wait willing to wait in line this is a good sign no matter what happens or is it hard to leave you a party as well i havent left it im still an a republican but im eisenhower republican i am the type of republican who believes in the dignity of the individual believes in adequate things like balancing budgets certainly trying to keep taxes low you know i believe in a Strong National defense in our i believe in International Involvement that were part of a world and we need to recognize that and i believe in protection of the environment and so thats the kind of republican i am not this type. Was that type of public him look at donald trump way like from where. Well with with great concern must put it that way i mean you know color you look at some of the basic tenets if you respect the individual if you are a family man if you care about life then you dont rip children away from their parents at the border and then lose their parents you dont do that demonize people because of where they come from or how they dress or how they how they worship i mean this man is tearing apart the very fabric of our country he the constitution is an inconvenient document when he gets in his way he ignores the rules of law all the norms that we have come to depend on in a country have been turned upside down and obey the way the massive failure of leadership around this coronavirus shows just what kind of a person he really is hes unable to lead he still is out there saying dont worry about it weve turned a corner and young people dont get it why the 15 year old grandson is in isolation right now in this house fortunately but with it that means the whole family has to be in corinth teen and you know when youve got 4 kids and youve got a job and your husband has a job just think of the people who dont have the ability to put one child in isolation away from everybody and handle the rest its a terrible burden and were losing lives and people are losing their livelihoods its a crisis. As you know a party let this happen. Well frankly i blame all of us we people werent voting again it gets back to that well fight like mad to defend our rights in a democracy but we keep forgetting about our responsibilities and for so long as you well know voter turnouts in primaries were 10 to 12 percent that meant the most partisan people were voting and they tended to be toward the extremes that got worse and worse as time went on because this from going on for 1015 years and it got to the point where nobody in washington they would Work Together and so the Public People got up and said tony 16 you know you guys havent done a single thing to convince me you care about me youre hearing what my problems are the fact that im worried about the future and so pox on both your houses and we want to get rid of everybody despite the rejection of trump a significant number of political problem for republicans like is self he remains extremely popular with the rank and file why. Well 1st of all let me just say that if you look at the numbers of people who sent a self identify as republicans or registered republicans for the 1st time ever theyre more registered independents than registered republicans so that base that high number comes from an ever shrinking pie its a smaller number those people as i said they wanted to turn washington inside out and upside down but i think a lot of them are having some buyers remorse because this isnt what they bargained for theyve seen whats happened when you ignore things like Climate Change when you ignore your the professionals on the scientists with the coronavirus i mean were up to almost 230000 people have died in this country just since the beginning of the year i mean this is this is big stuff and this president has shown a complete lack of ability to lead hows this Lincoln Group you know with him right the republicans for room. Well we are funded by the Lincoln Group republicans and independents from biden but we are separate because all were focusing on is the election of joe biden and what were doing we have a very Diverse Group of people who are part of the leadership of it they are former elected officials governors Congress People senators or some current local officials still serving cabinet members we have a wide range of respected opinion leaders and what were doing is focusing on those important states like arizona and michigan and using the members that we have from those states to right up beds to go on local radio stations to get out there and to to show people who dont want to vote for donald trump but have never voted for a democrat or afraid of that are afraid of the o. C. And think that thats who biden will listen to and telling them no 1st of all a look at the man that he is look at how he has handled himself throughout this campaign i mean he has refused to be pushed to the left even though that probably would help him with his base he has shown throughout his career that hes willing and able to work across the aisle to get things done hes a decent man who respects the constitution and oh by the way would never be silent when american troops are being harassed and injured by russian troops. I do have some concerns about election day well i do when you see some of the blogs that these far right groups have put up the socalled malicious saying theyre going to be at the polls and theyre going to wear their guns and i guess i cant remember what state it was michigan i guess or wisconsin where they are where the. British ery just overturned a a really. An effort by the government to say you cant wear open he cant do open carry in the polls so theyre allowed to carry their weapons in the polls and you see some of these people saying i dont really think they were the smallest of the groups but domestic terrorism is a very real concern and specially around this election i dont know if if trump doesnt win theyre going to be a problem as well i mean he will be but but they will be because hes hes empowered the hes encouraged them he wants this kind of thing in is going to try to change in some way the thing is going to say on november 4th no this is not months do it again lets assume you think something some kind of he will. Well it really depends in my mind on what the what the count is because if he wins at all well hes won and thats that and i dont think by the would put us through unless theres some egregious obvious attempt stealing of votes or interference its been pretty bad thus far by the by the trump people but you know something thats provable or bidens just not that kind of man but if biden wins by a small amount then absolutely trump will do everything he can to claim that it was an illegitimate vote that people ought to get out and demand a new election or a recount if i dont wins by such a margin i really think then youre going to see some of these republicans that have been silent and have been enablers relates if you if trump tries to cause a lot of problems standing up and say no you cant do this this is a big an effect 3 for joe biden its very clear what the American People want and what they dont want. Do you think god country is big enough for. I think so i have only met faith in the American People i mean we are at the most extraordinary experiment that i think humans have ever undertaken in trying to put together a form of government that recognizes and respects all people and i think deep down we were decent group mere decent people sure we have our fringes we havent always done things right and weve got those who will object almost anything but i think overall that if this comes to a really. Troubling conclusion after the election or if they try that i think the majority of the American People will stand up for the constitution and the rule of law. As allegations of Voter Suppression fraud as who may be all over the place they really were going to have a hectic hectic obama 4th i suspect its going to be challenging. You know after the votes it depends theres so many states its interesting the variety there are some very important states that start to count the absentee or the mail in ballots right as they get them other states you have to wait 2 days and so the real issue is going to be that traditionally those who go to the polls themselves tend to be republicans and democrats too who are voting by mail so on election day trump could stand up and claim victory on the 3rd and say the early 3rd and then youll see the blue the blue wave start as they start really counting those absentee ballots in the states that dont start until after the polls close so its going to be i dont know that well know on election day unless some of the major states like wisconsin pennsylvania actually show even at the polls that there been that theres been a decisive vote for biden who has a feeling is about all of us whose name lifetime republican on the verge of seeing a different kind of person possibly lead to what if imogens. Hope that i do see a different person in the white house. Fear for our country because you know some of the emotions that this president has unleashed are not going to be put back in the box easily the damage hes done to the environment too and the damage he can do between the election and inauguration and hes talking about changing the rules that got rid of patronage in the Civil Service hes talking about doing away with all those so he can fire people without she who has the gall to stand up and say what he believes is true and put in political operatives so theres a lot of damage she can do im hoping that people right now and im sure they are looking at ways to prevent that were to overturn it right away but hes done some serious. Hes done he has really undermined our constitution respect for the rule of law and ways its going to take a long time to recover and of course our standing internationally thank you christine always good talking to see if they election you know candy take care good to talk to you or have more politicking wave after this. We now welcome to politicking Bill Mccollum the former g. O. P. Congressman from florida and the former Florida Attorney general all right less than a week to go bill whats your call well im not sure whos going to win this election this is a really interesting election its been tight all the way through its tight who are according to what i see you know i chair the Republican State Leadership Committee nationally which focuses on state legislative control legislative races lieutenant governors the light we see all the internal polling data of the states and pennsylvania North Carolina the ones that have our grass states president of course are valid ground states and we began to have a little more optimism about some of them recently and in florida. I think floridas going to go trump i really do but. People are saying well theres a chance biden wins georgia and there is or texas there is but i think both of those states are likely to go to truck but you know you come to North Carolina you come to pennsylvania you come to michigan and wisconsin its not quite so clear those are really the critical states i think on an election day we usually bill know the winner by the end of the day you think there is a chance we will not know the winner by the end the day. If its as tight as that i think its going to be that yes that is a group the chance that because of the ballot the county sits you know my state of florida you count the absentee ballots the supervisors do but they have to be in by you know the end of the day election day they just dump all those out early so youre going to see those results maybe 1st before you see the bat ballots cast on election day but in some states many states now they dont start counting them until after election day and they have a longer period in some of the states that are critical to this so i think we should know i hope we know within a couple of days of this maybe even that day if its really not that close but a close election very pennsylvania North Carolina cetera probably going to be 2 or 3 days at least if trump loses when you agree that what defeated it was the car on the virus. Probably so i think that the perception of the coronavirus that has been a really tough act thing for him to overcome i think people temporist of all larry to blame the president for anything that they feel is going bad in the country as a whole may not be as fault but with his personality his nature etc and those various press conferences and the many many times the media and the Biden Campaign have tried to say its his fault a lot of people believe that actually i think hes done a quite a good job in terms that this virus is not something anybody could really truly control thats a misnomer but again the public wants to see it our way think about the amount of effort he went in early on to stop the virus of coming in from china to stop the flights the aid that he gave to new york and other states by getting the private industry to to build the ventilators and supplying to build up the supplies that were short and on and on and on to the point that we now have this huge super charged up effort to create a vaccine it may not be your by election day or even the end of the year but its far. Are further along that would have been i think it anyone else the president hes not going to get credit for that he does well in some quarters but in some critical places he doesnt and he look at wisconsin for example where a spike recently i think he has a good chance of winning that regardless of what i hear but i dont doubt for a minute that some Senior Citizens a particular and some others that are scared by the virus now that didnt have a spike earlier in the year are going to vote against the president just on that basis so this election is more for our guests trump that historic right now i surprise that bidens poll numbers in florida no not this estate is kind of mixed all the way through theres a whos closer look at that but i think i think again trump wins here were talking into a 3 point margin is pretty traditional and places like the villages id be very surprised doesnt win that it even though i know so the senior vote is not there they say that was before but the surprise if theres any here in florida is the large a support he has from the Hispanic Community not just the Cuban American Community but most of the Latin America Community this down of i mean some florida it is very strong and the opposition to bite is very strong so thats one of the reasons i feel pretty confident that trump wins the state i live they have a tony is and they can me and i can figure flogger out when they talk about a little and to know what is it is it securely democratic guard not theyve counties to be the controlling county and say whats going on. Well floridas really a mixed bag you have various factions inside the Latino Community if you will remember that the Cuban American Community is only under 50 percent of the hispanic vote in the state of florida we have a lot of migration from venezuela from colombia a lot of from Central America and other latin american countries so that if you add them all up theyre dominant and then theres the puerto rican vote now in Central Florida which is change the complection around by home or everywhere lando since many of the Puerto Ricans are more inclined than other hispanics to vote vote democrat right now so its an interesting state i heard some of the bush people talking the other day about the weather carries a vote of look for early on Election Night and well be in early state reporting comparatively speaking and i agree with the hernandez county and duvall county which should go heavily for a truck they did last time around and is just north of tampa is kind of one of those things that comes in early and if he goes his way then chances are its headed that way. Those who fear election day he will marches in the streets. I dont think thats going to happen i know everybodys worried about it on election day certain it happened that day i dont think and i dont think its going to happen right after that now we have a back right away i cant see that happening if the biting winds the cause i think that most of t