Transcripts For RT The Alex Salmond Show 20240711

By claiming in a call with north of england m. P. s, that the Scottish Parliament has been a disaster and the worst mistake that 20 blair ever meet. So was a so rallying call to scottish unionism or another boris born us for Scottish Independence campaigners. This is how he defended his position, the Prime Ministers questions. I may say the whole shes a result. You will see this on the road on the right to me for an alternative viewpoint, alex turns to form an m. P. On m. S. P. Im presiding officer of the Scottish Parliament surcharge. And a surcharge bought as johnson demolitions. A disaster of the worst mistake that tony blair ever made, what he reckoned when he tried to connect. And of course, by saying it was really a jolly good st. Apart from when the people of scotland heard it or not, party committed to independence. I think the damage is done. You can see that, for example, letter in the times the other may saying the biggest disaster since the 2nd world war. Well, some claim when you take in the sewers and invention, poll tax the iran war and so on. But what really concerns me alex is on the no longer work and conflict resolution as a International Civil servant. And later since my retirement, where we with the full backing of the form of assad been pushing the scots lucian model as a means to end conflict, set our local control of affairs and see where it goes to. Opponents will suddenly same hour. Why are you doing that . Because the british Prime Minister has made its clear its a disaster on this and dont think its a disaster. So we have a contrast in the between the Prime Ministers somewhat sketchy knowledge, perhaps of the, of the goings on in the parliament and her majesty the queen who all was surprised. Observer sally myself. A big perhaps even yourself, that when she addressed the parliament, she seemed to have done a fair amount of homework, which was quite impressive. Well, the inventor element coming from early is any great secret that tends to go backwards and forwards between the palace and the presiding officers office, a member on a confidential basis. And maybe i just allow them some of these speeches or what she should offer to help the Prime Minister about going to some a cover some advice. But whats the reaction in scotland been to the, the ministers attacked him and he says, look, he was really attacking the s. N. P. Wasnt really attacking the, the concept of devolution. After all, he was a spectacular, successful mayor of london and by his own rights as a lower point there, he really was just making a political attack. Theres been a wee bit twisted out of perspective. Well, i know of use only distinguished per columnist to serve the problem of boriss, he suffers from verbal incontinence. And he was speaking to a small group of breaks and minded tory members from the north. He shouldnt have said that the feeling in scotland is, i think fairly, i write and politically, it was very strange because there is detail polling and analysis of the stocks public and only m r 7 percent 8 percent. Ers, want to see the parliament done away with. So its not terribly good politics to caucus sites or miniscule group where one starts on burma, its like armament. They like a sense of this isnt making you know, member for better or for International Audience that this phrase i write that the scots would think you were exactly. Does that mean soldiers really were listening to you, but were you thinking elsewhere . There was in the acim to remember that some walter scott said that scotts like to have a parliament because they could fling chuckie stains at the parliamentarians as a in essence and where a Parliament May get criticized. But that doesnt mean that its not held in the affection of the people. It just moves away some because to criticise. Well, the oldest one reference of courses to the writing of the parliament are where members are to walk through bruce treats of unburned on a royal mile. And the people dont buy them the stones or them. I had a very real hound and bring me that tradition back regular if you look at the summer that record of achievement of the Scottish Parliament, it really is quite positive and again i give it a merit. But my comics weve heard 3 personal care. We have no fees at universities. Weve had care for people who are disabled or learning difficulties. Weve our marketable record of land reform, where the people of this country can start buying that mound back. Weve heard a ban on smoking before anybody else. We have excellent record of human rights. I could go on and on. These are solid, practical achievements and the mood of scotland, which going back to both of the Opening Ceremony on be opening of the road, emphasised the a gun and syrian nature of Scott Society which goes right through the professional classes on my modem as well as the people at large, theres a feeling that something more Scandinavian Scandinavian social democracy is perhaps where scotland finds itself comfortable. And i think over 20 years theres been very solid progress towards being a more scandinavian social democratic scotland. And a deeper level, the panelist, the might have a point because given, if we accept that the Prime Minister blairs motivation for having a reconvening of the Scots Parliament was to stop in the pan. This was to stop the s. N. P. To kill the s. N. P. Stone dead as one of his cabinet ministers put it as the ball is just and right to be a bit, a bit meth that, that hasnt succeeded. That was really a disaster in the sense and the fulfill tony blairs objectives for it. Well, your remember, well, i center the conference were drawn from a summit. Is. Can a stone dead remark only 3 words . Oh, of her of her ive always been of groundedness persuasion. I dont like great moment. I was always very clear as was my great colleague, neil mccormick, the professor of law at the university of edinburgh who wrote the constitution for a new scotland. I was always clear, we did taken steps, you can have a glade moment forward from nothing and then independent state owned. It isnt surprising at the end of the day, its the people of scotland who decide if they dont like the move towards independence, then they can go otherwise, its the real problem. And the real challenge, of course, is a country, is that more or less 5050. 00 1 has to make sure if ones talking about new countries, the, theres a general understanding general support for the pleasure of information before you go forward. I was struck by the fight that was johnson when he was explaining, as the march said, well of course im a big devolution us that i was, i was mayor of london for 2 taverns or stop the no dice that by the nodes on the very obvious point in the london, a capital a great capital because a country and therefore it was in the interest in the Prime Minister didnt appreciate the difference between being the mayor of a capital city. Important though that and the delay is being there. They 1st minister of a country is not a speaks volumes for the Prime Ministers attitude, the london, we toss the centralism of london, the concentration of resources m, m. And of course, in that respect, many of the grains you hear from scotland are perfectly reasonably articulated. These days from the north of england and the midlands of england in search of british drama. But you know, the problem is much bigger than that. I think the liberty state as presently spirit is largely broken after bracks it. No, there is no great appetite. I think drug, the whole of the you can be united kingdom, can gauge in a boom, buccaneering britain, you know, as it says on the british passport to let america possibly the lead car and runs through president , cries my european friends, look at that and say, hey, who do you think you are . Rex, and of course bro, saddam, who to 2000 is almost to remain in the european union. Is frankly a major turning point in my view here in the future of the british state. A finalist, such as theyve been, youve sat in the chair of the Scots Parliament, have been a member of parliament, a west mostly been m. S. P. And hollywood, where we go from here. Whats going to happen . I bought us johnson all know, but i think everything in scotland depends on the outcome of this hellish elections in may next year. If the polls are right there will be of a large majority for independents, that may be the scotia national party, having an absolute majority or, and maybe the Scottish National party, backed by the greens, having a majority in a friendly its about democracy. If it is, if the Prime Minister and westminster sort of the says no, then i suppose there is a 1st step, a reference to the courts and stop them then reference to the supreme court. And well see where we get to. But as i say, like most of my most commentators these days, posit misses the spine, is clearly on route independent. So let me just make a final point here. Ive never believed in federation. I dont think federations work if you got into making up over 80 percent of the lamarr. So population of the united kingdom. But how do you didnt call the federation stockman as an equal partner in coming to common decisions . And i think curiously, you could come to, is it true, she was started as an independent only to quite freely admits own will agree on a whole series of common agreements on travel, on work, on culture, on overseas representation. But to do so, from the position of only we decide something rather can do the normally you would go all the better marks, you know. So george reeves, a former presiding officer of the scots pilot, thank you for joining me on the alex salmond show and happy sometime tuesday. This coming monday im due here to join us after the break. When we find out just how i think im to became a paid to think of a country he had never even visited jonathan. Just feel welcome you normal got called a memory a little, you know welsh up in the open or just in your ocean cruise. It was a march up on the board with the one that will lead to the need for times to lead you to surround us. Yes. My moneys on earth is such a gift in the local which is based on what you owe your one with your means lucas, the chutzpah to look at your bullshit i look at you look as i wish you. The truth is youll be via reflection of reality. In a world transformed what will make you feel safe from thyssen nation full community. Are you going the right way or are you being led . So direct. What is true wants is faith in the world corrupted. You need to descend to join us in the depths, aura, maybe in the shallowness. Welcome back. The soul car isnt much use these days. With this collins man fishbowl, a team enjoying a resurgence and independence campaigner thinking to take to the streets again. But tell exactly. Did it become the flag of scotland . Alex big 50 of it will be missed and cheer of the Scottish Flag trust an author and broadcaster there telling to force the volumes of the 19th century bottle. The origins of the the saltire, theres a National Flag, a skull. Let me do some tile. Do scotlands national sales. Tell us about that . Well, there are all relates to the battle, the battle and the 2. And the slowly and the story has it that the scots and picks it was a joint army, had been punitive read into of somebody and they were returning with their booty. And they were being chased by a bunch of angles and saxons under a one called us. And they were caught surrounded just to the north of the present, a village of our host. And for the nic, if you have the worse, the thought, the thought that all was lost and the story has it, that its there, prayed for deliverance, and he was rewarded by a white cross. The cross of which of course said that would be martyred, appearing in the blue sky above the fighting, and he was inspired. His troops were inspired. They won the day and angus voted that having secured the victory that he would make sense to the patron and assault the flag and that, and thats the story that we tell this to dear ethels input. But they were into this mess, cut out the fallen chairman, is that what actually happened back in a 52 or is that going to be them broida later on to justify the, the patron saint under flight . Well, of course, theres no written evidence documentation from the one sent to the pic to speed in scotland. There is nothing but what we do have in terms of evidence is all the airlie mediaval. There are writers from birth to be a major lesley to disport it would but half a dozen of them, they all are fair to the event. I think the evidence is very clear. And stanley, the, there isnt even any record that we found a latin transcript and it refers to the battle under the fair to the, the participants, angus, and the apples. And i think theres, a great deal of documentation to support it. Philip k. , how important was the deal to scott when the managing from the dark ages into their limited will period to claim this patron saint and indeed to claim a National Symbol in the flight . Well, the declaration of a proof is one of the 1st declarations of National Sovereignty. And then it twitter fan to mythic autogenic in giving the sivia if sent down didnt peached. And us, maybe one of the reasons why russia and scotland shipped the same peter and st. Orson dandridge. And in that document to a weve had a much state National Sovereignty and i document eventually influenced other nations. I dont the world but that the Russian Commission is fascinating because as evilly as the 1690s people begin to eat, made the Russian Naval flag listen, don to risk cross that of f. Of us and the end of his cross. And a lot of people think its just because the ship a patron saint, but evidence says that the patron saint titan really been celebrated that much in russian tradition until a lot of scottish jacobites. I lived at the court of peak of the gate in the 609700. People like odd little gordon and dave patrick got an awful lot of cookies. And it looks as if the stopping all of the, the russian or all of sent on to the beast on the scottish or that of the festival, was the period where the sin done to this cross. The Russian Naval flag was begun. And it lasted through to the communist era, and then it was say, it was set down and then it reappear when communism was defeated. So it still used as the Russian Naval flank to date. And i had wonderful experience of being in moscow a few years ago. To make a programme of on this and day i visited and spoke at the Caledonian Club of more school. And i get a point to go out all of the middle and off and to meet. If it goes off. Whos a great russian historian whos done loads in the subject of him. And i, standing beside this, getting a huge flag which is half that Russian Naval fly and half this and gunners cross. So the russia is fascinating from up point of view. Other places the up tick in all this and gondolas course include the american south, the battle flag of the confederacy. A is this in done to risk or society, they knowingly cybill it came with that knowingly styled on the spot. The sulfide was a scottish connection to the confederacy and dauntingness alter their wards, but it was mainly mot tween called the so said walter scott plant. And it was a big influence of walter scored in the south bay that i think that the plant doctor said the people who lead the south. Theres also a scottish ethnic element to bismillah, this remind ticket element of so well, the scots novels that influence the south you get plantations called bonnet bachmann, was doing things like that. But fascinatingly, when the so succeeded the 1st state to secede from the union, war is south carolina. And the document was signed in this intended a society of charleston, south carolina, which is the oldest senate and to recite in the what will that be the spot, the 729th, so that they have an endlessly yet another better of a story. A happy story and i ended my school as black history cities with a win. Ill update it recently, jimmy cup, we had a main 962 as they discussed, a fly off that independence minister called that evidence. William mcgee, i was friends with said alexander bustamante, a bit influential jamaican at the time. And they discussed a trickle up. But the reverend suggested that because of the christian tradition in jamaica, they should use missile fire. So he used the green golden blot and developed at this same the end of this old guy, a flag, and that was adopted. And i interviewed the son of william mcgee, join mcgee, who lives in, in this group, but im just from memory. And he remembers the celebrations of jamaican independence in kingston in 1962. And the great he felt to see all these jamaican soul tiles all over the cliques and his wish is that youll see scotland celebrate. This wouldnt depend on this of the next few years. They will use just told us a story about the expat scots on the run from the heart of aliens and they 0. 18, they saw a, took the cylinders fired to russia in a sense. Isnt that still the, the way things are, thats an underaged a is often more celebrated around the world by expat scots that, than sometimes as a home, or do you think that is changing . You know, it better, right. So the expats didnt have a lot of scotland that we passed lacking here is whats fascinating is that until he had a prominent in, in 1908, there was a lot more activity in its intended societies in scotland. And its almost as if once we establish parliament, the scots became less desirous of having to demonstrate their scottishness through some thunders they advance into under the balls and dinners. Unlike with who received the intended societies. These are the big events of the year. The new york city and thunder society, for example, one of the oldest know when there is a massive event that they hold to celebrate our national day. And its, i mean, is wonderful doing that. I just wish more people in scotland perhaps would get back into the same track. So they will have some tell me for the restoration and renewal project. Whats the, what your doing . But we have, we have a half a dozen for 2 main structures in the church art. The 1st is the memorial, sought out memorial, which is dates from 1965, and consists of a major, a Massive Concrete plinth and plaque within it. And showing the battle scene and attaches a toll flag bull flag flies. Apparently, im meant to be read of the church and we have a flag Heritage Center 1583. Theyd be listed ducat. And that was made into an and kept of center in which people can come from all over the world. And to do we have a 4 star visitor attraction, stated, we reckon theres over 100000. People have visited over the last 20 years and people can hear the story of the, the flag in 7 languages. Now both these structures are somewhat dated. No, the duke it is. The howling is coming off it. The memorial 55 years old this year is starting to crumble and we have issues as well with the access from the military through the church art. And the technology of for the audio visual sure that we have is that deaf desperately needed an upgrade. So we launched an appeal, an International Appeal at the design raise 100000. So billy kane, i mean obviously the flag of the patron saint was really important thing i guess back in the one century. But in the 21st century is flying some patron saint something we should be wanting about. No, its all about passing. Well, ive been lonesome tundras cross. I bought my final exams every year. Their state and i took to germany for the world cup 6, little allman deficits and dundas cross. So im still flying the flying a student that im going never since in time for this course will not diminish this in under sight of the state of new york. There are 264th banquet last year. I think a, this in, dundas course is still a magnificent symbol, and its a symbol over the future of a great quote by my feet and scoldings hadnt the presence there so, but over the past and future im looking to the future on the course of some tundra, flying over the independent school, dusting that want to fly and then dont fully european championships most effectively will if i can got ticket me and the flag in the family, it will be a more dont leave it as a really so much an fest of National Symbols and flags and things. There certainly is. Any country in the world you could ask the same question to and you would get the same answer. And im always reminded of denmark, which has its flag been done abroad, which is incidentally also derived from a cross appearing in the sky above a bottle. Inspiring the troops to victory. If you go to denmark, we go to norway, you go to any of these countries, you see the flag flying throughout the land, and we in scotland should be flying as we will be this weekend, just as vigorously, they will use some good luck. We are restoration farm and like a good lot we are football fly. Thank you for just leave him there, alex of until. Thank you. Thank you. Once in a name and once in a flag, obviously quite a bit given the 15 to 10, just got to where 12 entity has to clean the flag on the feet as their own. Nowadays, since im just is just as likely to be marked by rainbow cultures in americans and by scots, a broad as much of it. But the point is that rather like tim patricks day for island, it is celebrated. In contrast, of course, to st. Georges day in england. This would seem a rather dangerous 10 achaeans timing into a change of my fear to tread, but not deprive, leave the Prime Minister. Its very easy for by can i claim to be aimed at the, i think p. To be taken as an attack on the status and dignity of the parliament and the nation. The National Flag of scotland is the so far the National Plant is a prickly fissile, and that is an old school thing which a Prime Minister may wish to reflect upon. You may set your nose, but you can a set or enough bessel. And so from alex myself and all of the sure its good bye for now and stay safe and well see you all again next week when you its been decades since the fall of spains fascist regime, but old wounds still havent healed from their mothers. And given away and forced adoption to this day, mothers still search for grown children for their parents. For teenagers are among 15 people reportedly charged in connection with the be heading of a teacher in front of the person taken into custody is going cold turkey to pump the brakes on celebrations. Many americans face the dilemma with loved ones who face food algorithm to deal with misinformation in the wake of the u. S. Election. 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