Supervisors. First, i agree with you, i would also expect a thorough review from my office. With that said, i cant commit to get all of them through by january 1st. Thats just not realistic because i dont know how much time it will take. But with that said, the security plan is defined in this ordinance is done in consultation with the Police Department and approved to the condition of the permit. We fully expect to develop rules and regulations associated with some of the plans. Many will not be developed and be public with long enough time frame to be put in place by january 1st for full transparency sake. With that said, those requirements through the rules and regulations would be applied in my mind, and i think through this legislation to article 16 permits. I think when it comes to the final final. Yes, final permit. When it comes the the security plan, a lot of it is assessing what existing mcds have in place for their security plans and ensuring theres no gaps when it comes to rolling out adult use january 1st and moving forward until they get article 16 permit meaning theyre in full compliance with rules and regulations. I was doing that to someone else. Sorry. Good neighbor policies, many operators have Good Neighbor policies as condition to the permit. I think a lot of it is getting the inventory of Good Neighbor policies and meeting the minimum requirement through the policies and trying to, again, just like the security plan, fill in deficiencies if there are some within the districts. I think it would provide for the opportunity if there are businesses with a certain number of complaints or areas for improvement i mean, i think im all in favor of everything that youre saying and i think this body has done this is what, the Third Special committee were having. Weve been spending a significant, significant amount of time on this. I think its justified. We dont want to slow peoples businesses down. Theres a mandate coming down from the state, but there is going to be a higher level of volume of people and customers given what were predicting. So because of that, particularly in areas where you might not have had the best operators and there might be gaps in terms of management and security, we have to have some level of rereview. If theres someone not operating to the level we expect, we want to have the final level of review to ensure theyre moving towards that, particularly given the increased volume. For one of the things i have heard on some of the ones that have been clustered together, theyre literal two doors down, we have a significant amount of parking problems and significant amount of problems of people that are customers going into the immediate homes that are just a few hundred feet away. We have to ensure theres a right level of management of that area. Weve had significant issues with surrounding businesses. But there have been improvements significantly over the last number of months and theres an incentive for all of the businesses to do that. I dont want to slow the process down, but at the same time, i think there has to be and i have heard from other supervisors, there has to be a level of review as we transition. Knowing we heard from miss elliot she cant commit to getting every permit reviewed for adult use, what is your suggestion about the bridge time . Is it that we allow it temporarily until theres a final review what do you suggest, hearing now from miss elliot that we would her office may not be able to finish all of the reviews by the end of the year and also that the rules for the plans arent ready yet and the regulations arent ready yet, that youre creating some right now. Is that correct miss elliot . The office will create rules and regulations to further implement this legislation supervisor. But those rules and regulations should be transparent for a period of time, should receive comment during that period of time, should be revised to reflect some of the comments. And so that will take time and thats always been envisioned as part of this process and that would be applied to article 16 permits not article 33 permits. The other thing i would say in response to that, i would imagine out of the 30 current operators, maybe theres six or seven that probably need some work. If we end up with 2025, probably 25 that are ready to go day one on january 1st and theres additional level of review on a small handful, i would feel comfortable with that. Okay. Can you do 2025 before the first of this year . I dont think she can commit to anything. She doesnt know what shes reviewing so far. I dont have the crystal ball. I cant say what sort of time it will take. We have this is a new office and we havent done that activity before. I wouldnt be confident saying to you this is how much time and how much we can do unfortunately at this time. I was just predicting based on current operating and what we have heard in the field. Supervisor sheehy, i know you have amendment as you want to make. Do you want to propose the amendments . Yes. Thank you. And thank you supervisors for allowing me time to update the committee with where we are on cannibis legislation. We have heard from many stakeholders about positions. Today, the legislation before the rules committee is better as a result. I want to take a moment to describe why i do this work. As someone who is openly h. I. V. Positive, i know myself the difference cannibis can make in a medical setting. Before the advent of effective h. I. V. Treatment, many people relied on cannibis to sustain appetite and alleviate pain. The club out of which came 215 and campaign for all rights and purposes was run from was on market street, a five storey building where the dylan law firm is now, it wasnt just to obtain medical cannibis, it was a hospice. In those days aids was effectively a death sentence and the medications really didnt come in that have saved my life and countless other peoples lives until late 1996, about the same time 215 came in. Medical cannibis is the reason why many, many people are still alive today who otherwise would have died from aids. Then when the drugs came in, the side effects were very severe. The first medications i took were fairly gassy but made it possible for me to be here today and frankly when i tested positive, i had not actually used cannibis since college but i found that that was the only way i could tolerate my medications. Scientific studies have found that where medical cannibis has been legalized, demand for opioids and opioid deaths are down. Today well offer three amendments in this particular piece of legislation on important issues, supply chain, compassion and consumption. For me, compassion is most important, you can find the amendments on page 9 and 10 of the amendments i passed out. The original ordinance did not allow distribution of medical cannibis, the conditions today allow that to occur, we must make sure patients get their medicine. Second, provide a path for adult use permits. These amendments on 3 and 5. Well do that so not only we have retail but supply chain ready to operate on january 1st. Finally we worked with dph to come up with language for them to allow existing consumption lounges under previously approved permits. Thats on page 12 and 13. If you want i can give you specific lines no, just talk about the general yeah. So thats it. I would say several places we strike medical in several places that allow the pipeline people to numerous places. I think it starts on page 3 line 11 and then it occurs page 4 line 13, line 22, page 5 line one, line 7, line 12 and line 16. What that does, allows pipeline operators opportunity to participate as they are currently. And it saves retail operators from having to go outside the city in order to fill their pipeline. I mean, we basically eliminate businesses that have been operating to date providing the pipeline for existing mcds to continue to do their business. And then the other one you didnt really speak about, the Compassion Program. Do you want to Say Something about that . Yeah, well, the Compassion Program. State law did not allow fto giv away cannibis. This allows a store front to have medical cannibis product at low or nominal cost for individuals qualified under California Health and safety code 1362. 7. This is page 10 line 8 to use medical cannibis. So it allows the director of the office of cannibis to adopt rules, regulations and guidelines applicable to Compassion Programs including but not limited to eligibility and applicable to those who may get it at low or no cost. In laymens terms, essentially the current laws dont allow for basically giving away cannibis. But what this allows for, if youre it says medical its only on the medical side, not the adult use side. No, not on the adult use side. I just want to be clear. Someone who would have to come in, they would still have a medical card. And then that person would it says no or minimal cost to low income individuals identified under California Health and safety code. Is that probably is what determines that theyre low income . Thats probably the section of the code how do they how do you verify theyre low income . I think that the health and safety code refers to the medical cannibis card. Thats right. Thats a reference to the state law who describes who is eligible to use medical cannibis, they have to be a qualified patient with a physician recommendation. And it says the director shall adopt rules, regulations and guidelines applicable to the Compassion Program. Thats where the rules will be set and where people will be qualified as low income and set a threshold. Thats the intention. Thank you. Any Committee Members have questions on these amendments . I have a couple of questions. Im just wondering, so were assuming that everything in the pipeline that is for adult use will be medical useless, is that an assumption or wrong assumption . The permits is for retail require all retailers to retain medical, they may say medical only but if they do adult use they must retain medical. But the ones in the pipeline, the new ones would offer medical and adult use, is that correct . I dont know what their plans are as operators, however they would be required to obtain medical. So they but new permits coming forward, dont require medical just adult use. Will there be some dispensaries that give medical and adult and some dispensaries just adult use . No, only dispensaries or retailers that are adult and medical or medical only. We are not proposing adult use only. Got it. Thank you for the answer. I have another question. Then have we set aside any provisions that actually clarify what medical if youre offering medical cannibis that provisions for medical patients for example many of the dispensaries in Washington State and oregon have everything packaged. So there is no loose product anymore, that it is all packaged. And so when we talk about a medical patient, much of it is trial and error, much of it is by the smell, much of it is by how this combination works with this combination because everybodys makeup is so unique. Will our medical marijuana dispensaries offer patients the ability to actually have this interaction with loose product or will everything be just packaged . I do think that medical marijuana is has a different purpose but then also its a different way of accessing its a medicine that actually interacts with your body and individuals very differently. The use of cannibis in a medical capacity is quite frankly before the aids epidemic but was also used before that for other remedies, too. All was medical use. Supervisor, under the application requirements for retailers on page 34 line 15 theres a provision in there that requires a description of how the applicant will support the needs of those who qualify under the health and safety codes to use medical cannibis including but not limited to providing space where customers may speak confident ally 1019. And ensuring sufficient supply of medical cannibis product. I think that might speak to your concerns. Not really. You want to be able to ensure that the patient has access to loose flower, is that your question . Yeah. I just think its sort of key when youre talking about medicine. Not everyones dosage is the same and not everyones medicine is the same. And this is why i think marijuana is so effective as a medicine, actually patients are able to access or combine strains sometimes or try out a strain to see how it works. And so, when everything is sealed in a package, it doesnt give you the ability to actually smell it or interact with product, and i think that is correct me if im wrong, i think its a large part of it. What i hear from people, from medical marijuana users, its about the interaction in your own individual body. That does not give that provision in the particular part of legislation. Also with my colleagues, do you feel its important or not important. Feel free to weigh in. Can i just ahead for a second, supervisor sheehy is the only medical cannibis supervisor. I would like him to weigh in. Thats kind of the practice now. I dont know that we need to put it in the law. Certainly if thats something we need to clarify within the actual regulations to implement the law by the director, i think thats probably it seems a level of a little too deep to require medical cannibis dispensaries to have loose leaf product. I think they do now. Everybody gives you the opportunity to look at at least for the ones i have been to, you get the opportunity to look at it and sample but when you look at other states that have introduced adult use, its all packaged. I have a question. Are you asking i have a question supervisor. I want to clarify what youre asking. Are you asking they write into the legislation that product, some of the product has to be loose . I think i would like assurance. Its great we can have a conversation here about it and i think its important. But if Going Forward around cannibis use for medical marijuana patients, i think we should have a provision that product will be accessible to medical patients in a loose form. I think if were going to go forward and we really believe patients need product to okay. I got it. Supervisor yee live comfortably. Yeah, so it would just maybe be a line or two and in one dispensary i went to, it was either washington oregon or, they had loose product on the side. The other ones had no loose product at all and said there was no loose product at all, were only doing it in packages that are sealed with dosages and that they never patients never touch the product and the only aaccommodation they gave to medical marijuana patients, they didnt have to pay the tax. But it didnt have any other provision for medical use. Im questioning it because im hearing thats an essential part of it being a medicine. Can i offer a suggestion, some of this stuff were doing in this transition period is going to be temporary, theyre going to be guidelines written, theres going to be implementation and oversight period and i just wonder if this is something have you heard this is an issue, you are seeing in the field in terms of whats currently out there or youre concerned were going to transition to it . No. Were only medical marijuana now. Were not adult use now. But when we switch to adult use i understand i want to make sure they have access. If you feel that you dont need to put this into legislation until we can add it later, but i actually feel its sort of important just in the and also with this new amendment that supervisor sheehy has just proposed, its all about medical marijuana and im thinking why not strengthen the ability for people to access this in loose form. Supervisor yee. Sure. Thank you supervisor fewer. Before you spoke, i was going in the opposite direction, whats the point of keeping records for mcds if everybody is walking in and buying whatever they want to buy anyway. But i think your argument makes some sense to me, not from my experience going into the mcds, so much as growing up with traditional chinese medicine, thats exactly what we do. You walk in, its not prepackaged. Those trained as a medical doctor will take your pulse and do all kinds of stuff and determine what combination of herbs and so forth would make sense to you as an individual and then goes to my sister and says youre going to do Something Else. So i think your argument makes a lot of sense. And i would be very supportive if there was language to continue allowing that and not having it all be prepackaged. Thank you. Supervisor sheehy, are you still on the call . Yeah. Maybe it would be helpful to describe the provisions. Youre not walking to a counter where everybody goes for everything. My understanding is adult and medical is separate. The supply chains are. And when you go in . The products are separate, yes. We talked about this early on when we were drafting to maintain youll still have experienced people knowledgeable about the medical uses, is there language in there about that . What language do we have to protect the medical side from being again, it would be that provision that would require i dont have it in front of me right now. I could track it down. Its the provision that requires the retailer to ensure theyre meeting the needs of medical patients, including through supply as well as privacy when it comes to that sort of consultation. We have the privacy provision. If people want to put more language, but could you handle it regulation dropping the rules do you have a general sense of whats there . I mean, do we want to require there be loose Product Available then we can do that. I would defer to the City Attorney as far as i could require that through rules and regulations. Any thoughts . Deputy City Attorney gibbner . If we do so, we probably want to add language about knowledgeable personnel. Say that again. Knowledgeable personnel. Can we do that with director or do we need to put the language in stipulating loose product and maintenances. Really, i guess when i think about it, its not really its just continuing best practice. But yeah, but if were doing legislation, you and i are temporary stewards of city government. It should be memorialized in legislation quite frankly. It doesnt matter if were having a discussion about it. Its about what will happen 10 years from now if adult use takes over and everything is all sealed. I mean i actually think because supervisor sheehy and i are used to herbalists, we understand that not all dosages and medicines affect people the same. I think its i dont think the provision in here is Strong Enough and it doesnt have to stay loose, but access to product that is not packaged. It doesnt have to say hey, loose leaf or whatever, i mean, i just think if we want to