Meticulous, this shows how serious we take every cent of this budget and how much we respect the feedback from the budget and legislative analyst. So i just want to use this as an example that this is how granular were going to get about every single budget and legislative analyst recommendation that has not been accepted by the department. For you, this is just an example to other departments when they get ready to defend themselves. I think you did an exceptional job, so thank you, chief. But i just want to remind everyone that every dollar that we spend, even though we have a 12 billion budget, means that were not spending it on something else. And the community and supervisors have come forward with 500 million in requests of life or death asks. So it is the job of this committee to make sure that every were spending is essential and more important than one of those 500 million of essential life saving asks, so i really wanted to use that as a teaching moment chair fewer thank you. Supervisor ronen because we got very meticulous and granular about one vehicle, but i hope that other departments are paying attention and recognizing how serious we take this responsibility. Chair fewer thank you. So having said that, i also want to say please extend to the range master thanks for his willingness to use his own vehicle for this length of time, and save driving. It is appreciated. Chair fewer so mr. Controller, can you please note that it is the intention of this committee to accept the b. L. A. s recommendation for this department minus this agreement from this department. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your consideration. Its appreciated. Chair fewer thank you. Thank you. So lets have city planning come up. I think mr. John rahaim is here, and madam clerk, can you please call item number 4. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer thank you very much. So before we hear the city budget, id like to take care of item 4 first, so mr. Ram, would you like to speak on item 4 . Certainly. Thank you, Board Members. This time Something Like an accept and expend. The state is asking us to put forward this grant a specific piece of legislation to highlight this board. Sb2, the grants are specifically intended to stream line the production of housing. So we have been working with the Mayors Office, the housing department, the Mayors Office of housing to put together a proposal. The proposal is 625,000, but half of it could go to the City Administrators Office for electronic plan review which will help us bring our processes into the 21st century. There are other things that i can get into, other policies and procedures that we are putting forward for proposing this grant, as well. Chair fewer okay. Any comments or questions from my colleagues . Theres no b. L. A. Report. Lets open this up for Public Comment. Hello, mr. Wright. Good morning to you. All right. S. F. Viewer, please. Before i get started, i want to give my condolences to the Police Officer female, miss osullivan, that lost her life in the line of duty. As far as housing is concerned, weve been spending money in areas thats not providing permanent housing for the people in need. You have a shortage of Mental Health beds here in the city, but yet, you keep getting billions and millions of dollars every year in your budget. Heres the example of the rates of beds thats divided and its in here and its demonstrated that you have shortage of beds. You have statements made by supervisor stefani, tell us your wish, no matter how big. What can we do to stop and prevent Homeless People from going back on the streets after the opening of your Behavioral Health center. You have explanations from nurses that the best way is to provide permanent housing. I urge you to move the fact that this is a threestory, 144 dlsh unit apartment complex for a bargain price of 56 million. The building on the left, thats 86 Apartment Units at 57 million. Nine times three is 27. You could get nine of these buildings with the 500 million budget, and by the same response, this location, thats a total of approximately 2,070 units that you could use these people with the mental disabilities and disabled people and also Rehabilitation Centers for people on drug problems and staffing the city. [inaudible] chair fewer seeing none, Public Comment is now closed. Id like to make a motion to move this forward to the full board, the meeting of july 16. Okay. Now, lets hear from mr. Ram. Could we have a report from the b. L. A. , please. [inaudible] 201920 budget of 55,164,225. Our recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 378,808 in fiscal year 201920. All of these 378,808 in recommended reductions are onetime savings. These reductions would still allow a reduction of 129,430 or 2. 2 in the departments 2020 budget. We do not have any recommended reductions for the fiscal year 2021 budget, and i believe we have full agreement with the recommendations. Chair fewer mr. Ram . Yes. Thank you. We are in agreement with the proposed chair fewer thank you. Mr. Controller, could you take note of the committees intention to approve the recommendation of the department. Thank you very much. Lets have the public defender, and lets hear from the b. L. A. Please. The proposed budget for 201920 is 6. 4 more than the proposed budget. Of departments proposed budget for fiscal year 202021 is 1,956,902 or 4. 7 more than the mayors fiscal year 201920 budget. Our recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 224,130. Of that, 186,130 are ongoing savings, and 37,800 are onetime. This would still allow a 5. 7 increase of the departments 201920 budget. Our recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 242,792. And would still allow an increase of 4. 1 in the departments fiscal year 2021 budget. Our understanding is we dont have full agreement with the department. I will let the Department Speak to what they agree or dont agree to, but my understanding from talking to our analyst is that they might agree to recommendation 1 and 2 but not 3 and 4, and ill let them speak to that. Chair fewer okay. Mr. Public defender. Thank you for joining us here. Thank you for having me. Matt gonzales. Thats correct, we are agreeing with the recommendations 1 and 2. And just so the Board Members know, we have a plan of what were doing with the 68,000. Were going to have ontheground social workers that are going to be in place. Moving on to number 3, this integrity unit, i cant i cant overemphasize the importance of this. There has been a wave of criminal Justice Reform and mandates for more integrity to the system, but it ends up being an Unfunded Mandate if we cant guide the river back to the people that the reforms are designed to assist, and these are the clients. There are several areas that were going to be working in that this integrity unit areas that well be working in. We asked for eight f. T. E. S. The proposal was two attorneys and one paralegal, and as i mentioned last week, any pennies spent in our office goes a long way. Its the most valuable money i believe that can be utilized in the criminal legal system. We have resentencing hearings that have to occur under sb1437. These are extremely complex cases with boxes of evidence that need to be sorted through. If i could have the overhead turned up, madam clerk. These are the ones in white here represents 38 cases where there are young people who are sentenced to 15 years or more or perhaps longer indeterminate sentences that need to have the work done to determine what their state of mind was at the time of the alleged offense. This may entail extensive analysis, mitigation, school records, family records. Its almost equal to the mitigation work down done in Death Penalty cases. These are 40 cases where the work hasnt been done. So if you look at these youthful offender and felony resentencings alone, we have the court will conflict us off the cases if we cant take them, and theyll be paying the private bar for those cases. We had the will, we had the expertise in the cases, but we really need two attorneys and one paralegal to effectively accomplish our goals in this area, no yeah. So im happy to answer any questions about the integrity unit. But just understand the reason were calling it a broad integrity unit, for years, they werent applying the correct mental restrictions law there are people that werent even there that are doing life sentences. There are people that didnt have a right to a meaningful parole hearing that now have that right, but we have the right to develop out where that persons social, cultural, and mental state was at the time so they can have a meaningful hearing. All these pages, they have to be organized, categorized, and make sure they can be effectively used in the cases that we have, otherwise, all those the flow of the materials isnt going to benefit the client. Thats why we asked for eight positions, and the Mayors Office allowed us two and one paralegal. Thats why were going to do so much with what we have. Chair fewer colleagues, questions . Yes. Supervisor ronen . Supervisor ronen i think if you can take a step back were real ae familily familia 1421, but if you could explain the other two laws and what they are and how they changed the workload and the dynamic just so the committee has a sense of the huge task ahead of it. So with 1437, that was a change in the felony murder law which led to an and the change is basically if you did not have if you didnt act with reckless indifference to life or you were not a major participant in the crime then you should not be youre not liable for murder. So now, we have to go back and look at all those cases. There are a lot of people doing life for murder who did not commit reckless indifference to life chair fewer oh, okay. I am would you speak directly into the microphone, please. Would you mind, public defender, repeating your explanation of 1437 . Yes. Chair fewer thank you. President yee thank you. So theres been a change in the law which states that if you did not act with reckless indifference to life and were not a major participant in the underlying felony then youre not liable for murder. And so those cases where people were sentenced, they were convicted on murder, theyre bringing back those petitions so then litigation to to then litigate to show that that person should not be serving a conviction. This is a case where someone could potentially be walking out or doing life sentences that are coming in. President yee is that a list that you just gave us, this list reflects that . No. This list reflected the people that will potentially be entitled to young offender patrol hearings because parole hearings because they were convicted of sentences president yee sorry to interrupt you. Sorry. I was moving to that next of 15 years or more, and theyre entitled to a meaningful parole hearing. In order to have that, the obligation is on us to provide a snapshot of where that young person was at the time of the alleged offense, which could involve going back in time, getting psych records, family records, school records, getting a psych analysis, going to the former attorney so they can have effective representation at that hearing. So thats a massive amount of work. Ive identified on this case, theres about page, theres about 80 total about half of those are already identified public defender cases. The other half, were determining who it should go to, and ochbviously, we want t take as many as possible, but if we cant do that, theyll be assigned to conflict counsel, or the court will assign them to conflict counsel, but we want to take as many as we ethically can. I think 1421, you said youre familiar with. Supervisor ronen yes. And with 1437, can you speak to how many cases you have to reopen, basically . Weve been getting theres an Outreach Program in prison, so weve been getting a coup couple letters from prisoners a week. We have to review them. At this point, i dont know what the numbers will be. We havent done a review, but its been a constant stream supervisor ronen how long have 1437 been in effect . January 31st of this year. Supervisor ronen how many cases have you had so far . I would say a handful of actually in court, maybe 20 or so that are filed. Supervisor ronen 20 . I would guess. Supervisor ronen so in addition to your normal work of staffing the courts and accepting every client that needs representation, youve had 20 new cases that youd essentially interest to relitigate, you have to prove there wasnt attempt to commit the crime. Yes. The classic case, the get away driver, the nonkiller. But they can still be liable for the life sentence if theyre a major participant or a and they have reckless disregard. Just last week, weve had to put a couple things over, and weve got a couple tongue lashings from judge conroy, so were stretched thin now. Supervisor ronen right. I would say its clear to me that this is a huge undertaking, and i see why two attorneys might not cut it, but what would be helpful to us is if you maybe could come back with as much of that detail i mean, you did it with the juvenile cases, but the felony murder rule change is a Huge Development in criminal law in this state, and it would be good to know what the scale is that were talking about because i couldnt agree more with all of you that these laws are only going to make the change theyre intended to make if theyre if theres the representation make to make use of these new laws, but it would be great to have as much detailed information as we can. And two, the budget and legislative analyst, id love to hear your thoughts more because to me, i you know, i have some familiarity ive never practiced criminal law, but i have some familiarity with you know, i remember criminal law in law school, and this felony murder rule change is a massive change to our criminal Justice System in the state. And to me, two attorneys then seek to reopen all the old cases that we may have going back quite some time seems incredibly reasonable if not incredibly understaffed, so can you explain more your thought process behind this . Sure. So we absolutely are not disagreeing with the importance of the unit and the changes in state law. What were saying is the department does not really know work this is going to be, what the actual caseload is really going to be, so we said, instead of start with two attorneys, start with one attorney, see how it goes. And with the legal assistant, our recommendation is actually hire the legal assistant. What were saying on that position is to adjust it to reflect what we think is actually going to happen in terms of the hiring timeline of january 1 rather than what theyre saying is october 1. Supervisor ronen and did the department give you this list of the juvenile cases . No, we did not see that, but they kind of described the what they expected the caseload to be, but they didnt go into specifics. Supervisor ronen do you want to explain . Yes. We want to hire someone in the next couple weeks, and as far as attorneys, theyre not civil servants, theyre helpful in this area. Our feeling is this caseload would justify the two attorneys. Some of these cases are from the 70s, so you have to to have somebody not familiar with the case now going through and digging through those materials, so its a massive undertaking. And frankly, just the 1421 alone, just organizing that data in such a way that can be useful. The whole purpose of getting these Police Misconduct records and so they can be used effectively in criminal trials and they were wrongfully convicted and going forward. So with all of these massive materials, we need a staff for that. Supervisor ronen to the budget and legislative analyst, with this Additional Information about the juvenile youth offenders and understanding how much weve staffed up other departments to deal with 1421, realizing the public defender also has a major role to play in using that information to the defense of their clients, have you changed your opinion at all today or are you still seeking Additional Information . Were standing by our recommendation. Supervisor ronen okay. So then what i would suggest and ill leave it to my colleagues, but what i would suggest is you coming back tomorrow, and maybe between now and tomorrow getting at much data as possible specifically around the 1437 cases . Because to me, if they can show that between january and june theyve taken 20 cases, that 20 cases for one attorney which for these felony murder cases seems legitimate to me. So im wondering if they can come back and prove that to you, if that would convince you to change your thoughts. Wed be happy to take a look at any Additional Information that they could provide. Sorry not to chair fewer oh, i im sorry to interrupt. So i just want to give the suggestion that you dont have to come back tomorrow. And what i would say, if those members on this committee now and the b. L. A. Would like that information, that you can make that Information Available to us without coming back. And if you dont mind, supervisor ronen, im going to call on supervisor stefani. Supervisor stefani thank you, chair fewer. Thank you, mr. Public defender for being here today. Just one question. Was this an unfunded state mon date when 1437 and 1421 was passed. Unfunded as far as we didnt have any positions for those. Supervisor stefani so was there any Grant Funding or state funding or anything like that . No. Supervisor stefani okay. Great. Thank you. Chair fewer supervisor yee . President yee basic question here. Some of the work other departments have asked for additional staffing, and we concluded that some of those requests would be, rather than permanent positions, would be temporary positions. This is one of them where at some point, we catch up with all those backlogs of people that qualify now that are already incarcerated. Would you then need these attorneys or as many attorneys to do the work . With the 1437, at some point in the future, we will have exhausted those cases, although thatll be a while. With the youthful offender, we have to do that going forward, and there are other positions in the state that are doing that extensive litigation work. The further away you get from the ev