That’s the way to do it. So were you performing or were you backstage? “I got into acting first. Played Daddy Warbucks in Annie.” Was that your first role? “That was my first big role, yeah, that wasn’t just standing there. And at the same time the drama teachers just grabbed me and said, ‘Okay, you’re into this. Help us build the sets. You’re not afraid of heights, climb this ladder.’” Favourite play of all time? “My favourite play… I love Midsummer Night’s Dream. And I love The Black Bonspiel of Wullie MacCrimmon.” Are you a big Shakespeare guy?