That yes, it turns out, its not difficult, and most importantly, we finally, well, i, first of all, felt out why i need this, yes, thats where we actually started our dialogue with you , from what and for what, is it necessary in general, i think this is necessary, i have one question, it seems to me that it will be very appropriate, marin, how could you answer, what will i do right today to confirm my intentions . I answered this question to myself just a few minutes ago, and i was already thinking that i m going home today, to the hotel, and usually when i go, i do this, and today i realized that i have my big bag that i arrived with, ill put my phone number in there, get into a taxi and drive like this, great plan, friends, and i wish all of us, lets at least start with this, that today, when or tomorrow morning. When we get ready for work or maybe during the day, well, in general, on the next trip we will hide the phone at the very the bottom of our bags or in the most secret pocket, jacket or jacket, lets try to live for a few minutes first of withdrawal, and then i am confidently enjoying the fact that life is not passing by, definitely not on the phone. It was a psychic podcast. Hello, you are watching precious stories. My name is ekaterina varkan visiting today we have natalya polenova, the greatgranddaughter of the great russian artist vasily dmitrievvich polenov, director of the polenov reserve museum. And today we will talk about this wonderful place, i cant even imagine how vast it all is. And we can put in such a small amount of time that we have allotted today in our podcast, this is how it all began, my favorite story, natasha, you know, yes, how vasily dmikovich polenov and his friend , student konstantin korovin, rode on boat along the oka, being in a cheerful, cheerful, witty mood, sailed past the hill, and polenov liked the hill so much that he said that he would like to put it here. Estate and live, so to speak, in old age, admire the surroundings, initially, this is the most important thing that, in fact, vasil dmitovich invested in this whole grandiose construction project, in addition to building a house for convenient, comfortable housing, a large family in beautiful place, the idea of enlightenment was laid down, well, the museum itself was there, then it was organized theater, schools, please tell me about these ideas of his besides the museum, but everything is true. From the very beginning he didnt really want to live in moscow, he grew up, as you probably know, in karelia, near petrozavodsk, from Early Childhood he was attracted to nature, he was attracted to coniferous forests, and he really really loved these pine trees, coniferous forests , and he really wanted to live somewhere far from the big city, but to his main idea of enlightenment in. Tarusa played in these places, because she had already settled in tarusa the family of Ivan Vladimir tsvitaev, tarusa was already becoming some kind of epicenter of creative life, we also call it the russian barbeson, and vasily dmitovich, once there, of course, wanted to be somewhere nearby, so he saw bekhov, this idea captured him, he said to his wife about how good it is there, and his wife Natalya Vasilievna also writes in letters that its really a dream to stay in bekhov. Settling in bekhovo, living in bekhovo will come true for us, they already had in mind their house, their workshop, Natalya Vasilievnas small office, that is, all this a dream, they had it somehow formed, all that remained was to buy land, and after looking at the estate of the bankrupt landowner soblukova in bekhovo, vasily dmich gathered the funds, but you are correct in saying that this coincided with the sale of a large canvas, who of you without sin or . Christ and the sinner is now in the Russian Museum in st. Petersburg, the former imperial collection, indeed, even before the opening day, the imperial family came to inspect the exhibition of the wanderers, and alexander ii became interested in this painting and i agreed to buy this canvas, as they say, even for my billiard room, after vasil dmich made such a very profitable deal for himself. 3000 rubles, but with silver, that is, not just 30,000 rubles. 30,000 rub. In silver, this was a sufficiently lucrative sum for vasily dmich to be able to make this purchase of his entire life, buy this in the name of the bankrupt landowner soblukovy, where there was a small temporary outbuilding where the family moved and settled, but they were attracted precisely the neighboring hill, the neighboring hill belonged at that moment to the Peasant Community and. He became a relative, since they were married to cousins, so his idea was, of course, not just to build a dacha for himself, but for it to be a dacha with meaning, that is, so that his followers, students, his Close Friends could come there, arrange fireplace evenings, creative, literary evenings there, they could gather, as a result of this kind of. Conciliarity , some new creative idea or some kind of artistic work could be born direction, why no, because we understand that polenov is still a representative of the school of realism, and his students are already modern, and Mikhail Vasilyevich nesterov and Viktor Mikhailovich vasnetsov and so on, so this is probably the transition from the Academic School of realism to school of modernism, he probably did this. In such artistic nests as polenova and abramtseva, of course, as now, probably, there is such a fashionable word that influencers say, well, probably, vasily dmikovich polenov, in his way, at that moment became like this, as an opinion leader for the local community, and this is very important, because this, it seems to me, was the key to preserving the estate , saving it, the peasants who came to you. To the sword, he led, he hosted them, he led them excursions around his house, he was the first tour guide in his own house, he created his own exhibition, showed it, told it. But the collection of the valen house, it is, in general, well, originally a private collection, collected by four generations before him, this is , of course, his father, this is, of course, his grandfathers, his uncle, in general, all the relatives, right up to gabriel romanovich derzhavin, who is about the grandmother who started it all, who, as a child, took her grandchildren to the tambov village, and many, by the way, paintings. What an appearance she has, on the other hand, a kind, sweet grandmother for her grandchildren, she was their real grandmother, it was she who remained a widow at 33 with three children, her husband, a hero of the 12th war, general Alexey Vasilyevich vaeikov, died of received wounds, he participated in suvorovs crossing of the alps in the battle of borodino and so on, he didnt. She got up, she remained at the age of 33, a widow with three children , she devoted her entire life until she was 80 to preserving the memory of her husband and raising first her children and then her grandchildren. The appearance of such a child in my life was a complete surprise, our tandem is such a small but strong family. Lets formulate a request with you we have a good room, or maybe. Its better, they came up with the idea of making a rack here, dad and son leave at 11 or together from the room, op complex, even just hanging, very good for the back, in this corner contains everything for cozy evenings, this is vinyl, this is a cinema hall, and we got to our home, about comfort, the premiere is on saturday on the first. Lately, we are increasingly hearing the phrase global majority, who is included in it, what countries it consists of, and most importantly, who governs these states. We met in the palace of the president of syria, the man who challenged the collective west. Our war is a war for existence, which is why the price is so high. The west now supports and promotes leaders like zelensky. These are the people who say to everything yes, right, left. Up, down, to everything, answering, yes, boss, and my father never discussed my future with me, i believe that everyone decides such questions for themselves my children do not study politics, one wants to be a programmer, the other an engineer. Do you use social networks . Is this interesting for you . Before i became president , i headed a state organization for the development of the internet, devoting time to social networks, i do not forget about real contacts with people, Online Public does not reflect opinion. The majority opinion is that these are only sketchy fragments, possibly a fabricated company. New project of the first channel, the global majority, bashar assad on sunday on the first. We continue our conversation about polenovs busadba. And today our guest is the director of the polenova reserve museum, natalya polenova. She is the greatgranddaughter of the great russian artist vasily dmitrevich polenov. But enlightenment and raising children was naturally continued by father dmitry vasilyevich, a historianarchaeologist, and it is known that he took the children around, so to speak, small provincial towns, they visited fairs, which means that there were also sketches of young polenov, the kremlin in novgorod, all sorts of, so to speak, stories about these trains. And as a matter of fact, as i understand myself, from. The family went to the zoo and there fouryearold vasya sketched an elephant in a very outstanding way immediately his parents noticed him, so to speak , she herself was a good artist, as evidenced by the large collection of graphics from our museum , she took lessons from such a moldavian artist, plus her husband knew karl brelov well, so in general they exchanged opinions in every possible way with the creative intelligentsia, so vasilyevich polenov from Early Childhood, his parents encouraged him very much. During his travels his parents suggested that he also sketch, well, plus, of course, they always brought with them some souvenirs, some artifacts, they formed the basis of family collections, including there, for example, we even have ancient greek collection, even an ancient egyptian collection, these are things that dmitry vasilyevich polenov is a collector, archaeologist, diplomat, because he worked in the Diplomatic Mission in athens for 4 years, brought from his own. It is therefore not surprising that he passed on our museum to his son vasily dmitrievich, expanded it, probably , he also traveled a lot to the east, he also expanded the egyptian collections, absolutely right, vasilyich made two trips to the east and always brought some unique items with him, here we see, of course, figurines of ushept and. Skorobeev and much more , and even bit for mummification, all this, these are like this, you know, i believe that this is the type, thats how, for example, in western europe such things as kunskameras were very common, that s what they call, a cabinet of all sorts of unexpected things, here you are you come in, yes, thats absolutely right, curiosities and incidents, that is, you come in here with a lot of Amazing Things for that time, that is, something that is impossible to find. Place, absolutely true, and why it is in a central place, i will explain, because during theatrical performances, when theatrical performances took place, then they lowered him so that with the play of light he could enlarge and depict a dragon, for example, or Something Like that, that is, he took part in all sorts of family celebrations and theatrical performances, but thats how he is yes. In the exhibition there is a room called the library, uh, and dont forget that the emphasis is on the word about, uh, so its considered that this is an old st. Petersburg thing, its not a library, but a library, thats what we call it this room, and here in front of the fireplace with the family coat of arms, with family heraldry, this little crocodile, he is 13 years old, well , experts say so, in general crocodiles live up to 300 years. Well, in fact, all these collections have always been available to the public, well , today its a museum, we understand, its accessible, but before, when it was basically a private house, it was all open anyway, these collections could be seen, people came , just like that, when the house was built, vasiliyvich polenov immediately put up these collections of his, there really are a lot of meetings, and there painting, archeology, decorative and applied arts, all this is done with amazing taste, because polenov is a real esthete, what can i say, his house speaks about this, his park speaks about this, his whole life and his fate, this is a man who lived according to the laws of aestheticism, beauty, well, in his absolute, so to speak, horizon and context, and this is the house of a truly man with impeccable taste, well, one cannot help but say that. He was also a great lover of music and even composed music, and musical evenings were a practice in the house, well, an esthete cannot live without music, of course, so of course here its just in. Ghost performances, so we also sometimes performed it at the tula drama theater, at the kaluga drama theater. But the most grandiose collection in the museum is the collection of paintings, of course, but what is also very interesting here is that almost all the works are donations, that is, few were purchased; these were friends, students, and colleagues who brought them to the museum. But on the contrary, i want to tell a story about a purchased item. Work, yes, there really is a collection of the polenov museum, it consists of, many things were donated, for example, there is such a painting by abramtsev ilya efim cherepin, it depicts the terrace of the abramtsevo house and a small female figurine, this is the bride vasilya dmitrovich polenova, Natalya Vasilievna and kunchikova , they met in abramtsevo, they got married in abramtsevo, this is the work, repinskaya, it was a wedding gift to the young couple. Then there are many other things, too, for example, the works of korovin, the works of isaa ildivich elvitan, the works of ivan shishkin, makovsky and so on, in principle, this is really a very good collection, which polenov collected either from gifts from his students, or even artists had such, there was such a tradition of exchanging works they liked, that is, if some works were liked, they could be exchanged , but vasilirovitch polenov decided to buy a crow so that. We know and which we see now on this hill. This is a precious history podcast. And there was a stone church, which we are talking about today, about the museum of the estate of vasily dmitrovich polenov, about the crocodile told. There is also a cannon, it is surrounded by a collection of sabers, which, on the one hand, were a prop for painting some paintings for vasovich, and on the other hand, a prop for staging performances. But there is this cannon, which most likely was used for fireworks , a small one for the holidays, but there is also a unique saber, you told me, and this unique saber was given by the montenegrin governor mashvarbitsa, to vasily dmikovich polenov at the time of the turkishserbian company in which polenov participated, polenov volunteered for the front and thats what this page is all about. That is, but what i noticed is that he didnt describe a lot of yes, terrible things that he saw, but he didnt reflect it in any way, how could it be, he couldnt go through something, we have , well, first of all, i remind you once again that he worked as a military correspondent, well, as we would say now, yes, he worked as a special correspondent for the illustrated magazine bee, with his samovar, here i have it, and its not just a samovar , this is historical the samovar, in general, so to speak, accompanies several generations of the polenov family, it is believed that this is the. Samovar, it is generally unique, it is called a spider, we restored it a little, it was cleaned, so to speak, these wooden parts are already so modern , and it is cleaned, but it is generally a unique samovar, they say, they say that it just accompanied vasily Dmitrievich Polenov during his balkan campaign, that is, it was, well, like a thermos, but in general it is believed that it accompanied vasily dmikovich polinova during his balkan. Campaign, but he definitely accompanied his son dmitry, during the First World War, he participated, the son of vasily dmich polenov, also participated in battles, for which he received the st. George cross and so on, and served in the cavalry and the fact that he was with dmitry vasilyevich during the First World War thats for sure, well, they say that he also visited the balkans, hes called a spider, you see what legs he has and this is his path. Its a road one, yes, but its generally heavy, its really very, well, its not easy, probably to travel with it, because it is quite heavy, but this is such a camping, camping samovar, i thought that since i came from the tula region, i would definitely bring my own samovar, i would definitely bring it with me to the samovar, and the diorama, natasha, this is what it looks like well, well , in general, in fact, i dont have no right to tell the secret of the diorama, i dont have it, because its completely somehow uh, well, people. Will see this secret, find out and this magic of this will disappear magic when people come to watch we have a diorama in the museum, but i brought you the original diorama, now we are showing what we show every day this is a penny diorama, and this is the original diorama of vasily Dmitrievich Polenov, this is a madrid painting, which, unfortunately, we do not show in our reduced size abridged, yes, this smaller abbreviated version that we show. He visited different places, he traveled a lot, throughout europe, he traveled, to the middle east, he traveled, here is the second picture, this is the nile, and also not they show it in a shortened, shortened version, you see, well, i dont want to tell the secret, i dont want to tell, the plot, the plot is that its a roundtheclock journey, but no, ill tell the plot, but i m telling the secret of the diorama. A wonderful artist, he was such a man of renaissance scope and an intellectual, he spoke six languages, he had a huge library, he himself read the originals, goethe, schiller, translated and so on, and of course, finding himself in the twenties, at the end of the twenties , where he ended up in province, deep in the province in the village, he saw what a low level of education people had, including children, and. Decided, came up with this wonderful educational project in order to simply expand the boundaries of the imaginary, visible, known, show the world, show children the wo