Came there, signed up, to show, but vakhtangov is really one of the first students and, well, sulerzhitsky vakhtangov these are the people who brought stanislavskys system to life, when he showed up at vakhtangovs studio, vakhtangov was not at the show, this the studio people accepted shchyukin, vakhtangov treated shchyukin, well, he saw, he saw, well, a man came, well, he said, well, show what you can . And he sat through, he proved, there is something written in his hand that he saw vakhtangovs talent, he is a detailed person, he is very, he, he, when he came somewhere, he wrote everything down, he had a wonderful family, tatiana , he was such a modest person, this is the story of his falling in love with shukhmina, this is his wife, in the distant shukhmina, shchyukina, when. They had, well, a slightly higher social position, and he came, he didnt do anything, even he couldnt confess his love, it was she who determined that he was in love with her, she was the one who brought him, he was a very modest person, extraordinary, so they lived their whole lives, they had yegor , this son is wonderful, and he writes to him that you cant deceive adults, you cant go out, he writes him a whole sheet of paper on how. He should behave, that he shouldnt use the benefits of those who do, here it is for his son , he was an amazing person, the appearance of such a child in my life was a complete surprise, the tandem we have is such a small but strong family, we will formulate a request with you, we have a good room, and maybe even better. We came up with the idea of making a shelving here, dad and son leave at 11 or together from the room op, a complex, even just to have fun, very good for the back, everything for cozy evenings is collected in this corner, this includes vinyl, this is a cinema hall, and we are at home hit, about comfort, premiere on saturday on the first, three chords, new season, on sunday on the first. We continue, this is the podcast life of the wonderful, i am with you, it presenter, writer alexey varlamov, my guests are the rector of the Shchukin Theater InstituteEvgeny Vladimirovich knyazev and the rector of the shchepkin higher theater school, Boris Nikolaevich lyubimov. Boris nikolaevich, how did it happen that this modest young man. Who was even embarrassed to confess his love, became such a superstar of soviet cinema, it was he who was entrusted with playing the role of lenin, its not a joke to play lenin, its not a joke at all, yes, because in general, well, imagine, this is lenin in october, lenin in the eighteenth year, this, this was filmed in the thirtyseventh and thirty eighth, so, in total, so to speak, 20 years, but what was happening at that time in the country in the thirtyseventh and thirtyeighth year is, perhaps, meaningless here now. Telling everyone this is a very big responsibility, because the revolution was made by lenin, stalin, the people, no one from lenins inner circle, in fact, by that time they were either pushed aside, like krupskaya or executed, and therefore here is a step to the right, a step to the left, and maybe this will end with nothing whatever, gorky saw that he looked like lenin. Back in 1932, when they were rehearsing there and balychev was rehearsing, he told him that you look like lenin, and ruben. It stuck with him somewhere, when simonov was looking for an artist to play the role of lenin, he remembered gorkys phrase and offered this role to shchyukin, and the first appearance was in the akhtangov theater, a man with a gun, a man with a gun, it was, they say, this there was some kind of bomb effect when lenin came out on stage when specially. With the artist they made a long corridor so that lenin, who is walking with a long gait along the corridor of smolny, then shadrin as a pusher will come out to meet him for some tea, nowhere to get boiling water, theres a comrade you cant tell him, and he leads him to the other side, they say it was some , well, heres the effect of a bomb exploding, lenins appearance when they started filming. This film, they invited him, but the deadline was so short that they filmed around the clock, and shchukin was also forced to play the repertoire that he had to play, it was all like that, and the responsibility, thats about which we are talking about, and he writes in these books, what if it doesnt work out, lets see what happened, a fragment from the film lenin in october, have you seen lenin, write what kind of. He is, they didnt bet on copper here, they said, here, he is redhaired, and with a sideways eye, yes, but we think that he is an independent man, strict and enormous in stature, what can we do, what can we do, what is it written, lets go to sleep, yes, yes, sleep , in fact, i had a feeling, now, when i watched this film, that this is some kind of fig in pocket, that this is some kind of joke, that lenin looks so funny there, he is so similar to all these jokes about lenin that we told, that i dont really understand how seriously it was possible to take this picture and this role then . You know, i think that here we still need to immerse ourselves in that time, of course, because of course, most of the audience should have perceived him exactly as the most human. Very second, lenin was always played by peoples artists of the ussr, major actors, and the role of stalin there was not much, i think that maybe the hero of your, so to speak, book, Mikhail Ivanovich bulgakov had not yet found, when batun wrote, the image of stalin that stalin should have, stalin read it and said it wasnt like that, of course, however ruben nikolaevich simonov as stalin. Joseph vasarionovich himself liked it to such an extent that he recognized the man with the gun of the vakhtangov theater, they were even invited to government concerts with an act of a man with a gun, stalin watched stalin come out, but it seems to me that there is a very its also important to ask why he. Came to this role, after all, from his generation of vaktang members, he, of course, stood out for the role of yegor boluchev, maybe thats also why it coincided with him so much, that after all he he was, apparently, not a very healthy man, and even at the age of 40, as those who saw him say, this topic of death, in general, the pain of studying is also a rather early death, so to speak, he is not an ancient old man, easier yes. Untimely, of course, death, i want to say again, at the pinnacle of absolute glory, further, so to speak, its even difficult to imagine how it could develop, but in general . But in general, this is his illness, its acquired, because when the revolution happened, he came to moscow around these years, returned from koshira, i cant tell you the exact dates now, he lived in the poveletskaya area, in the studio he walked to mansurovsky lane, he had to work during the day to earn a living, because he had to pay for the studio, its also not free. I complained to my comrades that i didnt care because he had nowhere to go, and he felt, i felt bad, his comrades, they even called him a malingerer, they all the time thought that he was slandering himself in order for Something Like this and could not particularly complain, he all the time there was some kind of malaise, he was clutching himself all the time, well, there were no such. Clinics, where to go, you will check all this, that is , the heart has already made itself felt, the heart has made itself felt, it tingles, it it hurts, it burns, but he still overcomes it, and even these days at night film, but its still unknown what will come of it, thats the result, he fell asleep and didnt wake up, what a short life he lived, he read the paradox about the actor before his death, thats how it is, it was he who discovered the paradox about the actor. How should he play the mayor, because he was preparing it, the premiere was about to take place, he didnt have something there and Something Like that was there, he walked around, looking for speeches, he was looking for a manner of speaking, he invented it for himself, yes the last one. The global majority who are in it includes, what countries it consists of, and most importantly, who controls these states, we met in the palace of the president of syria, a man who challenged the collective west, our war is a war for existence, thats why the price is so high. The west is now supporting and promoting leaders like zelensky, these are people who say yes to everything, right, left, up, down. To everything, the answer is yes, boss. And my father never discussed my future with me. I believe that everyone decides such questions for themselves. Myself. My children dont study politics. One wants to be a programmer, the other an engineer. You use social networks. This is interesting for you. 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We continue, this is the podcast life of the remarkable, i am with you, its host, writer alexey varlamov, my guests are the rector of the Shchukin Theater InstituteEvgeny Vladimirovich knyazev, and the rector of the shchepkin higher theater school, Boris Nikolaevich lyubimov. I would like to take advantage of this opportunity, evgenia vladimirovich, lets talk a little about you, about your work, about the vakhtango theater today. A lot of work in cinema, in the theater, probably a separate podcast could be dedicated to this, but still, this is what is very interesting to me personally, i am very interested in zoykas apartment, because zoykas apartment was a play by bulgakov, which came from. But because try, were not, well, we were all dispersed there in this performance, in this piece in the performance with these artists, but here we are alone, and there is not a single one. National, nor deserved, we were all the same year old and came out on stage and performed this performance, so i am grateful, well , firstly, this is both bulgakov and the theme. And pain, who played the main character . Yul rudberg played in our theater, and Maxim Sukhanov played amethyst, i played balyanin, seryozha, i saw, i didnt see shchukin, zhenya saw you, here are three more such great names of russian literature, and the works are on the stage of the theater pushkin, lermontov and tolstoy, and the queen of spades , masquerade and of course war, i play in all of them, and you play in all of them, thats why i thats why im asking, lets do it. Now well also look at the screen, this is war and peace, Boris Nikolaevich, what is the colossal success of this performance, hes such a big nikolaevich doesnt think so, but you dont know, but im really imposing my opinion, what do you say, yes, what a Great Success this is beyond any doubt, there is no need to even argue here, the performance, the work of evgeniy vladimirovich, i believe that this is one of one of, so to speak, the keys to this success. Causes the auditorium to become embedded in the tissue this performance, and firstly, in tolstoy, then in myself, i myself love to watch my colleagues behind the scenes, how they play, how they change from performance to performance, and the most amazing thing for me is that the performance ends in 12 00 at night, by this time not a single person, well, maybe someone. These are different things, and then somehow it stuck, suddenly they called from klin, and from klin from the tchaikovsky museum. They said we will do it, now we will have such a concert, where there will be works by pushkin to the music of cheikovsky, you can read something from anegin or from the queen of spades, thats what he has a work on, i thought, let me try some chapter from the queen of spades, some piece, they, well, great, they typed lisa in singing, german. In dancing, well, in general, they collected all the genres associated with the queen of spades , and there i tried for the first time to read without playing the queen of spades, and it seemed to me from the reception that this could be, then i decided to learn, already learn the entire piece, now i play with great pleasure, it is in great demand modern, oddly enough, it turns out, because now there are also a lot of those people. Who are trying to beat fate, yes, but pushkin wrote an incident, a fairy tale, an anecdote, an anecdote about three cards had a strong impact on the imagination, it seems to me that we are doing great today we also remembered boris vasilyevich shchyukin, we talked about your work in general about the theater, this is completely unnecessary, lets talk a little more about shchyukin or about the school, our school too , but maybe theres potential for us. Here here is an opportunity to reach out to these young people who dream of working in the theatre, as actors, directors, thats what you would tell them, they will come there and only work in the theater, who will not be able to do anything else but do this, like shchyukin, for example, who wanted nothing else for himself but to play. Stage, he was ready to endure such difficulties and hardships in order to achieve this, we live much easier, today, no one is hungry, no one suffers, well, maybe not everyone there eats some kind of pickles, but the hungry no, compared to the same twenties, thirties, when people had to survive and when he was a very rich man, because he had two coats, yeah. Both seasonal and winter, and so they all went in one, so if you have the passion to engage in this profession, and this is me not without appeal, it is the person who comes who will tell you that he is coming, but those who come are us, i dont argue i never stop anyone with Boris Nikolaevich, who go to the shchepkin institute, who first treat us well, and then they say we want to go to the shchepkinsky school. Go, because each person determines his own destiny, and since we have a graft of the vakhtangov theater, our theater exists only due to, or in spite of, the fact that over all these long years our theater, when other theaters there doubled, tripled, bifurcated, were upset, but we never shared, when we tried to stick to the same school, even like. When a very Famous Artist came to etush and said that i want to teach you, he said great, come work for us, but only i would like change school, he said oh, no, you will work with us according to the school according to which we, which we received from the hands of vakhtangov and which boris evgenievich zakhava developed, is excellent, and we keep this school, we keep it, we try, in any case, as much as possible , as much as possible, because it is easy to destroy, difficult to create. Developing them and living in this small but differently existing collective, a kind of unity with our own problems and, but here we stand and hold on, and we have been holding on in our school for more than 200 years. We are in this sense, and in our this year is 110 years old too many, very, of course, of course, and 130 years of boris vasilyevich shchukin, we have such a double anniversary, so we are also, as it were, on this anniversary, it was not easy for us to survive all these difficult years, but it is possible, and this profession, if it. As cruchini said on the guilty without guilt, how do you feel about the acting profession, is it an art or a craft, what is it . Its so rare that our profession and performances become art, but when it happens, youre ready for it, probably everything give it away because you succeeded, and while there, if there are performances, usually you are some kind of translator between. But suddenly something happens, when the audience, as someone said, when, regardless of class, social status, financial status, nothing, when suddenly the same artists are the same, and you influence them, suddenly they begin to live with one breath, with one feeling, then. Then, perhaps, this is art. Thank you so much for this conversation, this was the life of the remarkable podcast. And our guests were two rectors, two wonderful theatrical people Evgeny Vladimirovich knyazev, peoples artist of russia, rector of the Shchukin Theater Institute, whom we talked about today, and theater expert Boris Nikolaevich lyubimov, rector of the shchepkin higher theater school. And we are interviewed. The rector of the Literary Institute was also in charge, yes, we ve figured out three rectors here, thank you, hello, this is the baden baden podcast and im its host, konstantin severinov, our guest today is a virologist. Academician of the Russian Academy of sciences, scientific director of the institute serum vaccines named after mechnikov, vitaly vasilievich zverev. Vitaly vasilyevich, hello, its very nice to see you. Hello, konstantin, yes, we are also very pleased. Today we were going to talk about seasonal diseases with you. Ah, but i would like to start by talking about the World Health Organization, since you have been an expert and representative of russia in this organization for a long time. And lately there are many people who doubt it. Its feasibility, could you tell us what you did there and what you generally think about about the cart . You know, i went to the World Health Organization in geneva for the first time, its scary to think, in 198788 i was still representing the soviet union, we were invited by a large number of specialists in order to develop rules for testing vaccines against hiv infection, because then it was already before us. No, but in front of us, he said, there were 20 people speaking, 22, who said that this is tomorrow, this is already tomorrow, it happens in different ways, and then i was invited to join the cart already in the nineties , when the question of the fate of museums was being decided smallpox, the fact is that smallpox is a virus from which humanity has suffered for thousands of years and which has wiped out, i dont know, up to a third of the population of europe, but sometimes yes there actually were. Strains, natural variants were eliminated by vaccination, thats right, yes, they were eliminated by vaccinati