The heroic salaman konstantinovich apt spent 20 years translating these two huge houses. Eh, and some say that it is not written better than in german, i dont know how to evaluate it. Well, the other side of the matter is that our image of Foreign Literature during the 20th century. He has moved a lot from one place to another. Yes, and continues to say so, i continue your thought. I would also say that maybe this is why Foreign Literature still exists. Yes, it even means more for russia. What does this Foreign Literature mean for this country . That is here. Eh, the russian territory of russian culture is the field where foreign ones manifest themselves differently, of course, yes. This is a very important story. And that is why the position of a literary translator, which you have held for many years, changing here and there, is so important. Yes, but at first i didnt change at first, by the way, then i started translating for a Foreign Literature magazine, which youve been in charge for, uh, 15 years since the eighth. It seems to me years, yes 15 years. Yes, whatever, i would be very happy to do it. Eh, it was a pleasure talking to you today. Its mutual. Thank you very much. This was todays episode of the literary podcast. Let them not talk. Let them read. We spoke today with Alexander Yakovlevich legant, a famous translator from iskorsky and the editorinchief of, uh, the magazine Foreign Literature , and i, dmitry bug, at the end of our program, as always, i speak with pathos and energy. Enjoy reading to all of you. The podcast Everyone Wants to fly is on air on channel one, by the way, you can watch all the podcasts on our website 1tv. Ru. Uh, here, as usual, im Leonid Yakubovich and one of my favorite and best instructors, Nikolai Petrovich mochansky, general director of the minsk aero club, in my opinion, one of the best , at least of those ive seen petrovich, lets talk Nikolai Petrovich, youre a military pilot, colonel. Why aeroflop, but why aeroku club . It was ninety seven, yes, well, i came home to belarus and, in principle, started doing good work. Well, uh, but after 2 years, fate still pulled both desire and aspiration from life. Carefully return to aviation and take to the skies, that is, the two years that i did not work in aviation after my dismissal. Eh, ill say comparatively, maybe, as if i was somewhere on a business trip and the plane and the sky were far from me. And then i realized that i couldnt be in the oracle club on this business trip anymore. I came more than once, because this motor club and the leadership team, so to speak , of the Central Council of dosaaf graduated from it more than once offered me to work at the club and, of course, thinking that i had made a decision. Yes, i need to go back, i did it anyway, its amazing and completely returned the name to aeroflob. Yes, the center was real. There he had some other names. But we returned him to the minsk oracle dosaaf club named after twice hero of the soviet union sergei ivanovich, they say the good thing about the honored pilot, a belarusian, who in six months became twice a hero of the soviet union in the prewar period. This is our legend. And so i selected a team of good specialist pilots who were passionate about aviation. Parachutists, and together we began to raise and build the economy, both sports and flying. Why should there be an opportunity, first of all, for the purpose of raklubak, fly and jump . To attract young children, they lowered the age of admission to oracle from 18 to 15 years. They began to conduct a more thorough selection of military cadets preparing for the military academy of the republic of belarus. Tom and the range of their activities have greatly expanded. At that time , there was always an opportunity to attract young people, after all, oraclubs, but very support for the state. And i know, as always, you speak in terms of mobilization. That is, those guys who jumped three five, and some come even 200 jumps. This is a practically trained paratrooper, except for the tasks that he will be taught in the army, but he will always jump and land accurately, and this is the direction they chose. We are moving along them, and i will say there is a tangible result not only in the economy. I am the right thing, but i will say, we are very many children. Right now, lets say, there are 135 children studying. Maraclub is not free speaking of the fact that there are also those who invest little money, but they also engage in these sports. These wellmannered children are already brave. So lets talk. Not everyone is accepted with a parachute. Not everyone will fly. Eh, cultural people are busy and ready to defend the state. What percentage of those who go to your club then go into aviation, you can say that 15 percent go, you know, i was shocked the first time i saw the flying club, how many planes there were then, probably that by the time we were 80 there was a. Well, Something Like that struck me that saturday, sunday, the sides are open and the children are crawling everywhere, pulling handles, twisting everything with such glowing eyes, and then all week you restore this, but, but i saw repeating the eyes of the children. This is amazing this is not just a tour with advice. I still dont remember that somewhere there was such a raklub that you could climb into the cockpit like that, there were no such raklubs that had its own museum. Eh, but here this is a personal initiative of my team, why everyone loves aviation, from little to great. After all, parents know all about it they understand perfectly well that the time spent in the museum is in an airplane in a cabin under a cabin or under an airplane. Just take a walk and look at all sorts of equipment. This is a very necessary time, where a child forgets about his computers and so on, sitting in the cockpit, and the pilots protective helmet, uh, parents understand perfectly well that this can give an impetus to his profession in the future , he will look at the abundance of instrumentation equipment. This is what you need to know, this is what you need to strive for. We are not growing. Yes, i myself have personally seen how many times when my father says, look, you can see how the instruments are here. Dad says its impossible to learn this, he tells me, wait, but they fly from schoolchildren like you to cadets to pilots. They teach everything, but for this you need to study, that is, you see, this is also a kind of help and demonstration, in order to achieve something you need to study. By the way, i want to remember one moment that struck me, it was probably five years ago at an aviation festival, when the president arrived. Yes, you were the eightieth anniversary of the minsk club. And he asked like it. I say, like what do you think, i say, i think that military pilots should be trained here. He said well and smoothly, a year later a decision was made by the military pilots. Now cadets of the military academy of the republic of belarus are undergoing Flight Training in four araklubs in various areas. That is, we do the first courses on gliders, the second course on helicopters and airplanes we separate the guys and the fourth course graduation they fly already at aviation bases on the types that are intended for them, with the exception of airplanes they fly on the l39 in lida , that is, the system for training military personnel is built in our country and it is very correct, but i want to note that then he asked, i not cockroaches. Ill see how you take off, because everyone says that you have a lot of flying time on all types and so on. Do you remember we flew, we flew with you, we flew to the zone along the route , we walked at and he asked us to report to him , our president likes to set the task, but also check here, uh, ill say that you feel the plane. You have these qualities that are inherent in a real pilot in order to understand and feel and be in one with the aircraft. Ill say you love a helicopter now and more yes, but when we flew on a plane, but its simple and when i found out what a break you had. I will say that the first one speaks out, therefore, this is the form that is preserved for you. As a pilot, i tell everyone i know, why leader arkady keeps his pilots uniform, because he is studying all the time or he is flying somewhere at someones place at night or flying up to us or flying to us in a dream and he is really focused, he forgets everything and does what a pilot needs to do. Arkady is an example and model for us, okay. Okay, now. We are indeed several of all mochanskys pilots. We flew a lot together and found ourselves in difficult situations , both in snow storms and in fog, but still few people know that Alexander Grigoryevich lukashenko presented Nikolai Petrovich mochansky with an order. Behind what are two two orders . Why the first order of honor is because we train pilots well and with high quality. Eh, speaking of the club prepared for today. Uh, about 250 pilots. And you understand perfectly well that this is a piece of goods. This is a pilot, and a second order. For personal courage, on may 6 , 1918, while performing reconnaissance on a mi250 helicopter, the left engine caught fire. And for the fact that i put him down, uh , i put out the fire of hmm aviation equipment. Wait, this is all very short, the engine caught fire. Yes, it was 14 minutes into the flight, right . Reconnaissance, 40 minutes. Yes, almost only after takeoff the engine fire went off and the automatic system immediately went off. The first line worked. Yeah altitude 300 50 370 m the wind was seven nine meters gusts, 10 11, i immediately took the helicopter down and now you are picking up the pace. Against the wind to turn around and immediately look for a platform. First of all it works. Yes, i turn off the engine, left fire valve of the left engine, turn it off, dc with the left handle. I take control and look for the same place to put him. This is near minsk, everywhere in the countryside, populated areas. Lake vyacha is approximately in the direction so that against the wind i find a small field and i plan on it at an altitude of 150 m. I see it has not gone out. I now forcibly press the second fire extinguishing stage of the helicopter. Uh, and i see that everything is uh, and i have about 89 m s descent of the helicopter, so that every pilot understands faster than the ground, the faster you land, the faster. Uh, because until five. There, for three, four, five minutes , the aluminum will already start burning, the whole system will be on fire, everything about it will burn, and i look, well, 120 meters. Maybe the height was mountainous terrain. That is, if i land before the mountain, naturally, i wont be able to hold it, because landing is necessary for planes full of fuel. And the tank on one engine will also tumble over the mountain. And i find the top of the mountain with a moment of descent. Just now im looking at and vice versa and the screw, so as not to lose speed like a stone, and regarding the speed up to 120, about 120 speed from the stand. I get in the way, i hit, but before that i looked where else i could jump over from this mountain and the dacha nearby. The dacha is not far away and there is a lawn where water flows and bushes. I hit the landing gear and the propeller unwinds, i pick up the gas, jump over , sit on the rear landing gear, run, and at the end of the run. Let the front wheel go and there is a couple of meters left before the fence , uh, i quickly press the switch off, the third turn, something flames out at the fire extinguisher. Eh, so im showing that the engine is on fire . Otherwise i dont see it. She says there was smoke in the air. I opened the blister and opened the right door so that the smoke would not eat my eyes. So, uh, after that i turn off the right engine and they jump out. Unity i dont remember from which left or right jumped out because he started to remember the fire extinguisher. You will have to take it and, so as not to embarrass yourself, open it, as you have never used it, except for a machine fire extinguisher. He went out and took a fire extinguisher. I took a screwdriver between the fuselage and the hood, pressed my knee, and there the entire fire extinguisher was completely extinguished when i saw that there was no flame. I called the flight director to say that there was a landing in such and such a place without an accident without damage to the helicopter, and we, of course, turn off the engine so that it would burn and there would be no damage on the ground, then it would compress around the helicopter. I dont know five times i probably did some more pushups later, that is, i also need to let myself out for medical reasons. E faced, that is, to take the village, everyone, of course, ran. But when i said that this was a Training Session to take the helicopter away, everyone became uninterested. Everyone left, so we calmly towed the helicopters away. After some time we picked it up and tested it , now it flies. Well, a jacket. I saw him, which one is hanging . Yes, with holes with holes. One second from the moment of fire to the moment of detection. How much time has passed since fire until the wheels touch the struts, now im going uphill, about 40 3 45 seconds passed like this on the speedometer bar. You are watching a podcast, Everyone Wants to fly, this and all the other podcasts you can watch on our website 1tv. Ru today in the studio Nikolai Petrovich is a mochan first class pilot, a former aviation colonel and the general director of minsk aerob. I want to touch on one page in our biography. We filmed a film together about night witches, there was such a small plane of two in an amazing way, preserved with an engine original, on which was written the plant named after stalin, thirtyninth year, thirty ninth year, donated by pioneers and schoolchildren to the minsk aerol. Where is the plane from . So, i was in moscow on a business trip and found an engine for two. I find these guys sitting down and talking. We spent about 2 hours and agreed that we would build a plane. And three years later the plane was ready. You know amazing stories. You saw , in order to make a film, i flew on this plane for three days. I still am in fact. I dont understand how they worked. Almost 3 years in war conditions. I just dont understand this in an open cockpit for the first years without communication at all, well, about 100 km 120 km, speed plus free flow from the propeller. In the summer, even with a helmet. I was freezing, cold, a minus 25. And i remember a turn of six takeoff landings waiting for landing to the stalin line how old is he 30 minutes, probably 25 25 minutes round trip 50 minutes, and so we were on a conveyor belt, i flew off six times, and i was tired physically. And they had up to 18 sorties per night at 25. I just dont understand what it means, i dont understand how thats one of the urges. Why did i catch fire with this plane. I wanted to see it myself, as a pilot. What kind of work is this . Why were girls from 18 with an average age of 22 years old in the regiment in the womens regiment, which flew in twos and i wanted to see for myself to see for myself what kind of work it was, a danger to them and other factors that the girls could overcome . Im also not talking about flying in winter. How could it be possible to withstand all this in winter, and thats why i was passionate about building and giving others of todays generation the opportunity to watch this plane and gasp like girls at night in the cold. In the summer fogs, they flew everywhere, bombed and defended our homeland, which motivated every man to do some kind of work. You yourself say that i myself flew or am flying. Now he is flying a heavy aircraft, a very complex aircraft. Therefore, only after 600 sorties were the military heroes of the soviet union given a regiment raid. For the entire time of his stay during the great fatherland. Left 7,800 hours. This is a very big raid. That is, victory was very difficult for this regiment, i tell you im serious. Im a healthy man. There is a very difficult male effort, but now im not saying to hold the helm, but to step on the pedal. You just have to sit in the chair and move to turn the tail units. You just need to press it and stand in a chair. I dont understand how this happened. After all, i read this. Somewhere they had up to eighteen sorties per night. This means that they took off in the dark at six, well, approximately, and back at eight. Time to just jump out of the cabin to pee or drink tea, more, i dont have time to refuel back there and i repeat this. Just. Yes, its just cold, very cold, and plus everything else, theres a war going on. You still had to fly from the bombing searchlight. Uh, Ground Services antiaircraft guns are working misters are working on you. I dont swear to you until the whole couple. I dont understand how they held out, applauding the heroic , simple french girls when they first saw it, though for two years. They flew when they told the girls that all the flowers in the world should be given to these girls for their heroism. Even just because theyre sitting in the booth, its true. And i also want to touch on one thing that is painful for me. I am absolutely convinced and have received confirmation from many pilots that there are no better machines for initial Flight Training, like the yak18t , the yak52, two small planes and not two helicopters. And i dont know when it will be, when this time of the collapse of the soviet union , as everyone said, began to purchase foreign aviation equipment. For some reason, everyone forgot about their planes and helicopters. Im talking small aircraft. So lets call it all in one word, started to move back, of course its a shame, because the yak52 and yak18 and mi2 are the best so far. I want to say something, as a pilot who flies all types of aircraft, but do you understand what the problem is . In 2012, an agreement between russia and america was signed stating that aircraft with more than 125 seats should not be produced in russia. It was signed like this. You see, everything was done so that our aviation would be pushed back, what we have today for military pilots, except airplane. The yak52 is not better, both in russia and belarus there is a better helicopter than the mi2. No, because this helicopter is the most centric. It can be used in different directions. There is no better one, at night he flies on the drives in any weather, well, he can change the equipment, please, a yak18 plane will land at any airport. Uh, episode thirtysix , about ninetytwo. Well, maybe ill be wrong. In the ninetythird year of production. How long has it been 20 years . There