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We were giving them a tool to hold corrupt individuals and human rights abusers accountable. Theyre gonna rip this deal apart if they take the white house of 2025. What is the world hearing when were talking about why american today youll weekly take on us politics and society . Thats the bottom line with. Welcome to the stream, imac much aberdeen filling in for family. Okay. Today examining be origins of the universe with the james web space telescope. Its the Largest Telescope ever sentence, a space. And its mission is to observe the birthplace as of distant stars, planets, and galaxies. Astronomers say its a breakthrough for science that may answer humanities. Biggest questions, including where do we come from, and are we alone to get our conversation started here as nasa, astrophysicist, amber, strong . For me, the most exciting aspect of this new telescope is really the breadth of science will be able to do, will be able to study objects from within our own solar system, all the way out to the most distant galaxies. Ever. The very 1st galaxies that were born after the big bang and everything in space and time in between. And these 1st images that weve just, or least really just give us a glimpse, just a hit of whats going to be possible with this incredible new telescope. Im so excited for that year of science that we already have planned, and i have no doubt that this telescope is really going to change the way that we understand the universe and ways that we havent even dreamed of yet. Joining us to explain the significance of the j. W. S t is our panel of scientists in california, jesse christenson, a project scientists with the nasa zill planet archive. Renee doyen, Principal Investigator for the web telescopes, find guidance sensor and info red imager, known as nearest and in nova scotia, la mullah, an observational astronomer with the Dunlap Institute for astronomy and astrophysics. And of course, if you want to ask a question to our panel, jump into our live you tube. Chad and you can be part of todays conversation. All right, so, so much to discuss, i want to start with, with the basics, kind of the emotion of this moment if you will, jessie, we built this, i say we of course i havent done anything but we built his incredibly complex telescope. I believe its a 100 times, at least more sensitive than its 30 year old predecessor. Why is this so exciting to what does it actually enable us to do . Wow, hubble is been such a amazing observatory for humanity for decades now. And there is some things where hubble has just given us a glimpse. We have a hints, we think that theres something bare and were very excited now with dated with t. Well finally get to the answers and some of these incredible questions, like, whats inside the atmosphere at these exit planets with finding how far back can we see towards the dawn of the universe. So its a step weve been wanting to take for a really long time. So its very exciting that were finally here and the telescope is performing as well as it is. Right. And on that note that its performing as well as it is. I mean, i can imagine many things could have gone wrong, renee and you know that in of itself is a celebration or something worth celebrating. You know, with that in mind, we sent this what 1. 5 kilometers or 1000000 kilometers, if im not mistaken. And its sending back data and that data is digestible to you or in a, what is what is the most exciting element here . Well, everything, i mean, youve said that this is arguably the most complex machine that you meant the as a build. And we sent at 1500000 kilometers away. And the eyes, you mentioned that many things could have gone wrong 1st. So you know, the sales goes so big. So we have to fold it in a big, you know, like how big are we going to be figure in a, in the, in the frame, a rocket, an incentive 1500000. 00, then we have to deploy it. And i used to describe this, this 2 weeks of deployment, this 7 days of terror. Well, really, it was 7 days of joy because things went so smoothly. And then we had to align these 18 segments with exquisite currency. You know, its on you can imagine depression, you need to line these mergers with one another. And yet it took several months. We did it and it worked so well. And one thing to understand too is that this tesco is always beyond a sun. Shell always in the, in the dark, it has to be protected from the sun and its very cold out there. Its minus one in degrees celsius, whatever in finite, this is so cold. So we have to develop new technologies to operate investment at these temperatures. So it was a lot of challenge, it took 20 years. And so, yeah, so now were opening and you eyes and this guy and to answer Big Questions about the original designers and i, we alone for im, we will have a credible machine so, so on, on those Big Questions just quickly and maybe let me know we can start with you, we have and are you to chat solitary kid convinced that were not alone thing, theres no way we are alone. And im wondering beyond that question, that big question. What excites you as someone whos, whos already processing some of the data thats being sent from your vantage point. Let me well, we asked in vain for those data for so long as just right next door to me is the entire canadian extra Galactic Team to city. Theyre going through the data, and theyre just all crying out, enjoy every time be, find this little galaxies really read galaxies. And we think are, you know, might be one of the 1st of the universe, this galaxies that are full of stars, which might very well, like be our own son and might have a kind of like our earth. So, you know, when you look at Something Like this, something that is like almost a time capsule, where youre seeing galaxies at very different distances because of this wonderful property of light, you know, coming to us at the same speed. You just cannot feel, you know, you cannot feel alone in this. But certainly i think i think many of us are excited by the prospect and well get to that at the end of this conversation. But before we do, if i may, renee you or forgive me, i jesse you said Something Interesting kind of comparing hubble to, to this new telescope that were celebrating today. And there is this tweet by john christiansen, not to be confused with someone from your family. I believe but, but at least someone who created this really powerful tool, take a look at this. Im gonna just scroll down a bit. This compare is essentially, this is the, the new telescope, and this is the original sort of hubble image, right . And, and this is the southern ring nebula, could you just beyond sort of the fact that this looks like something that was photo shopped. What, what is that, what is all of this that we see here . Tell us that we, we didnt know before. Right, so what were looking at here is a planetary nebula, which astronomers are really bad at naming things. So ill stop by saying it doesnt actually have anything to do with planets. Its a planetary nebula, its what happens when a star like our son gets to the end of its life and starts puffing off all of its outer layers and they create is a gorgeous cloud that you see today. And the star in the middle pushes the cloud away. What we, the detail that we have with database t is going to allow us to discern much more about the physics, the actual physical mechanisms that are pushing the gas away and how the gas is behaving, gives us information about the medium that the gas is going into the, into stella medium. What happens between stars . This gives us a glimpse of this. And, you know, just to hear from someone else if we can kind of echoing some of those key points that you outlined. We have Christine Chin and astronomer at the space Telescope Science is institute, who really highlights for us what she believes is so groundbreaking about this moment. Take a look. These 1st Early Release observations really give us a glimpse into how j t will transform our understanding of the universe genius. He was designed to peer back to the end of time to see the 1st galaxies for me. And indeed, the nearer camera capture, grubs 1st. Deep feel, interest 12 and a half hours revealing a scant teeming with distant galaxies. And each galaxy has been imaging, exquisite detail revealing galaxies with warmth, bright star clusters, and news, and shrouded in dust. In our newly formed understanding goes beyond these beautiful images to increase spectrum, that would be a precise distances to individual galaxies. What used to take couple days now takes 2 to 2 hours. And as a result, almost every observation will provide a glimpse into the distant universe. So, you know, already when we say we are going to be exploring exit planet atmosphere is in more depth now as a result of this new telescope. What is, what does that mean . I mean, some of our you tube of commenters ghost in the blur saying this is unbelievable and exciting, but when will we prove other life besides us exists . That is the big question. We also have someone named and had saying, well, the more the discoveries, the more the unanswered questions. So do we anticipate that some of the discovery is being made already or that will be made, will be surprises. And do you think this is, can that really for sure, make us know that theres life out there . Well, we cant know what our web will will detect life. But what we can be absolutely sure that will make giant step how is answering that question. Do you have to sign the when, when we need to do so were trying to detect an atmosphere. Were trying to detect the molecules thats in there on, on urge those molecules like oxygen and that those are, are made by, by life. And, but you know, we havent really done that yet on small planet. We have to take that much years on gas john planet, like the one we saw, the newest instrument take this beautiful spectrum. While you see the bumps on the wiggle, you get used to these things. Going to see many of these spectra in the coming year. And so thats spectrum prove without any doubt that theres war and use. And you can also methane seo. And when you combine with the other side sentiment, you get the whole sweets of capital d to detect molecules and thats actually key to one day. And so the question is there, you know, bias natures and gas that are due to biological activities. Yesterday, the stand that hobbled view was in terms of color is what me, me, me like this, you know, hobbles or now where its like you can up, right . Like my hand right . Completely different. And so just like the, the feel we have a completely new perspective and with exquisite details. One big limitations about hobble is that it goes around the earth, every 95 minutes 90 minutes. So when you try to measure a like triple meetings will find it, its always interrupted in this case where we, we can continuously observe this object without any interruptions, and that makes a big, big difference. And renee speaking there, i was showing the audience just kind of the comparison of the korean and nebula, for example. And some of those elements that you were describing. I do want to kind of kind of ask or actually let me let eric baker, he sent us a question that ill put to you and they take a listen to eric how to say given that the james web space telescope only see certain colors that are on the spectrum of light visible to human, how to scientists go about tolerating the images that we get to see online. I forget my, sorry, jesse, thats a sorry that i just show. So what we have to do is we have to take the wavelengths that, that james webb test buy, sells good looking at which is in the infrared heat. And we have to map those into optical wave length that we can see with our eyes. So we, we take that, that section of the wavelength that we cant see, and we remap in something we can see. So these beautiful images are not what you would see with your eye if you were out in space looking at these nebula, you wouldnt see that. But they are giving us this rich amount of detail about the different wavelengths that these objects are meeting at. And so its not that there was no end for a red before it was, its just that much more advanced, right . If you will, like to hubble, have this capacity to a certain extent. I mean, im reiterating, maybe im wrong. I think im wrong to tell me no correct us, let me to. I just want to mention so the previous grade observatory that was an infrared telescope was spitzer also spits that was a nasa mission that operated from 2003 to 2019. And it had infrared capabilities and was able to see glimpses of just again give us hints about what was there and, and so many interesting questions. But leave us wanting more and web is giving us mole. Im, you know, obviously weve been celebrating so far. I see that there are 2 other guests are in agreement with you nodding there, but i would be remiss to not ask you about some controversy. Of course, theres always controversy. We have, for example, this tweet saying, seeing the images from j w as t comes with the bitter sweet knowledge that the person the observatory is named after would not have wanted me or the dozens of other queer astronomers i know involved in this incredible achievement. It deserves better using that hash tag, they are rename j w s t. A lot of people might say, well, who cares . Why is this controversial, your thoughts on this, jesse . Yes, so james webb was a nasa administrator during the apollo years and was very instrumental in having the cisco sent successful Apollo Missions prior to his time at nasa. He was in leadership at the state department when the state department was going through this period of purging a l g b t. People from the state department. This is in the early fifties and its not clear that james webb had any specific role in that. But he was in leadership in the state department at the time. And so then it comes into this, you know, what responsibility did he have to stop it . You know, was he a product of his time . Was he following orders . When its very unclear the extent to which he was involved in this. So theres just some murkiness at its made people. Its always a shattered things a bit. Its made people uncomfortable because you dont want to think that this incredible new instrument that was built for everyone was named off to someone who wasnt for everyone. I understand that thats a, thats a great way of putting a la you were gonna say something. Oh, i want to add them in i we will the james web space telescope. Its now being launched in error, which is where science is now a lot more open and now we are a bay and available accessible people around the world in a way that maybe the Hubble Space Telescope are the Previous Missions of not have been be now have the data that was released today is actually available for Anyone Around the world to download and analyze the software id be using. Trans license data is also more accessible. And i think because i dont, world post pandemic has also changed where we are now more able to connect with each other or conduct meetings. And the research is all on by. I think we are moving to an era where with james never did. We will see people from all over the world coming in into and, and getting, you know, getting to do science with this wonderful telescope in a way that has not have happened before. But i think theres, you know, there is a lot of things to look forward to. Now im here most, most certainly, and among them as much as i want to look for it and we should and there is so much to look forward to. I want to ask you just for a little bit of context, renee, you know, hubble versus web if you will. The last time nasa launched an observatory of such kind of importance and significance. It was really deemed a disaster if im not mistaken. In 1090 some, you know, astronomers like sandra faber, others saying it was an absolute, kind of catastrophe. Why is that . And i dont want to focus too much, but, but how would you compare this moment . Well, a hubble lead, the what youre referring to is one hobble was launch. He had some eyesight problem and we had that that was an issue, a mistake made which these things are not easy to do, of course. But of course we, we learned from, from, but it was fixed, you know, because the hubble was close, is close to the day of the earth orbit. So we could send the shuttle and change easement to crack its eyesight. And then how long came back with his good eyesight and that you know, a to a truly who was like astronomy. Now we learned from that, and for that we were very careful with you, not repeat the same mistake and no, theres no problem with the telescope. And as i said, its very complex machines, but its deployment, and its the and its commissioning, went fairly smoothly. And so, you know, we should, we should be about at one point i want to mention is that what is very significant about his project is that this is an international project. And we live in, in trouble t