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Okay, its elise next, Prime Minister george ab maloney is an unapologetic conservative who knows exactly what she wants for her country. And how many supporters are behind George Maloney, vin serona, ga maloney, i think is one of the few women who can stand up to europe and above all, hold italy up to t o l t. Any dalia refusal more to go out . I trust mon only a lot and im convinced that she was slowly bring forward the solution to the problem for young people pensioners back and change the whole bureaucratic system, their bubble ro, correct . They know youre out from it all. So lucy, i am a right wing voter and therefore happy to see georgia maloney and government i had the chance to know her when she was younger. And i know that she is a democratic person of culture who speaks for languages and is very prepared. The attacks against her are due to jealousy because she is an intelligent, strong, free, and honest woman. On todays episode of the stream, how might italys new far right government change the country . That is the discussion very welcome to be part of it. The Comment Section is right here. Look forward to hearing from you. Ah, welcome to barbara marina, federico. Its good to have all 3 of you here. Barbara. Wonderful to have you on the stream. Interesting capacity. I know many of our viewers will recognize. You tell everybody who you are and what you do now. Thanks for me. Its great to be with you. My name is barbara shire. Im an italian born journalist space and london. I used to present the news and be a correspondent for al jazeera for 16 years and al jazeera, i made the film fascism. Were going to see a little bit of that in just a moment. But 1st, lets say hello to marina marina. Welcome to the stream. These introduce yourself say hello to have us. Hi everyone that thank you for letting me hear them in a new, maybe not cheating, but yet i know i am a political economy than their work with politics that you standing alone. So good to have you and federico, welcome to you as well. Please say i like to have you as around the world. Hello everybody. My name is really, im a journalist from a newspaper im. Im a session economics journalist. Good to have all 3 of you. We also reached out to the brothers of italy, party to see if they would be part of our program. We didnt get a response from them, but we will be featuring their voices that comments in today show. Lets stop bubble with this idea of being a fascist and fascism in the years since fascism was spreading across europe, its become more of a pejorative term. Im wondering if weve lost the context of what it means in italy. Let me start with montero. First of all, a terrorist honey, psalms out quite nicely. And id love for you to just build off the back of him. What has been a fascist mean in italy today . His material festival. My peers, our those consider fascism. Anything that is her and the sub richmond, conservative, nationalistic, so its clear that the wall is completely lost. Its me. On my dads side though, i strongly believe the italy cannot grow. Its so fast to rule. So without breaking off the italian, low, the, or below, and the international low. So i dont feel that a problem with the war about i suspect if i asked every italian, then we can, we have completely different also. But what is your answer . What is it . Well, i mean my answer is that fascism is an opinion its, its a crime initially and, and, and thats the way that it should be seen. I mean i remember i sort of decided to make the film fascism in the family. What actually the word fascism kept on being used in english rather than italian and i feel sometimes over used like anything and everything was a fascist. So listen, i think the key thing about brother is a visually and, and George Maloney is that they have links specific links and their routes are in a Neo Fascist Party. That began after world war 2. The so called m. M a cy without getting to, to maybe to so that specific about her and the party so much so that the logo of that party from, from an after world war 2 is still part of their branding. Now, i mean, i wouldnt say its a controversial thing, you know, fascism is illegal and certainly any attempt at reconstituting the party is illegal. I think that theres a lot of things that i noticed while i made the film, for example, that there would be to trickle people just always going to most of the news grave to kind of pay their respects. So i think some of the, you know, i dont think that all italians have quite bell to with their history. But i do think we need to be careful about using the word fascism. And to me, you know, for fashion to be president , or at least, you know, to be fully involved, you need violence and you need that violence to be used as a threat to democracy. Federico, i see you nodding, articulate, youre not, go ahead. Well, i dont, i dont quite understand whether the question is if we think that church im alone is attached or not. I think its a question definitely worth asking. And probably the 1st thing i would save the question, i would say that i think one of her successes that she has managed to make it in polite to ask her whether shes a fascist or, or how she relates to her cautious route. Because she becomes very easily impatient and that for the baby, i will say it is a little bit. It has these appeared a little bit from italy. I would say that shes there currently a right wing populated. She has been right when populists for a number of years in the mall of sorry, donald trump. Bannon. And in the mall of maybe vox and spain. And now theyre right. We populous parties across europe, across the world, across the way. And if you look at her article, finally in europe, were talking about low injustice cold on the tory party in britain. And, and there are 2 guys, so ok. I think she has showed sympathy for 3rd period. She has invited, for instance, week or, or bon were trans, its very often. But i think we need to move a little bit forward and move on from about the trashes of the 19 days and get i think straight into the debate as to where there are federal. Can you read you loud and mean im wondering then what kind of conservatism does maloney presents for italians . Whats attractive for italians about . Yeah, i think that you know what the use of ada active. I mean, having say that i do agree with the say today, but i think we should also focus on the 15th of use, the, the, the, you show the, the beginning of the, the show. So white people and voltage on what people are. So, i mean, knowing, and it seems to me that you know, fast, seasonal, conservative sound, so much nation and what we have that well, you know, shes close to the needs of people and maybe she can do something for my electricity because shes a woman. Shes been here and i mean, and im not giving any judgment to these. Im just saying that you know, the owner of people you need that he went talking about the job done on the ease, you know, not so much to was you know, and then the next month. But i still. Busy walked in on the bases of the guy being fascism and i think that you know now, and hes the most important question that i mean at what kinds of, you know, at the time that she managed to capture the work, you know, all of them both she she got that i did clear that and the majority of, you know, not the majority of the but the big of all the votes of maloney it is. But all the votes of i still not to fall shes, shes still, shes the both. These are really, you know, shes the only one the latter in the sense that, you know, she has a bit of a dog list that i am alone now. So that i really, i think weve tried, weve tried everybody else. Lets try a flavor that we havent tried to play because we havent tried for some time. Let me push on a little bit because i dont want to just talk about maloneys roots. I want to talk about how she will lead. So im going to go back to a documentary that you bob, where you made in 2019, where you will looking not just that it leaves and it leaves move to the fall, right. But connecting back to your family as well. And you went to maloney, raleigh in 2019 when she wasnt even pulling that high. But what do we see here . Do we think leadership here that come look these are the brother is of it. The country 2nd largest tar right party, georgia. Maloney is the leader in today. Shes issuing a clarion call from europe behind the proverbs a screen nationalist with i suspect when maloney says our identity, she doesnt include the farm workers. I met in full year. And where is the countrys fascist history to be found in her notion of to find some over there . Real changes for italy right now. Theres a column it economic challenges cove. It is still around to pick. People still cobra coat, covey, their Health Challenges as a lot to cope with. How is maloney going to change what she does on the stage, any rallies into leading a country or shes gonna have to be pragmatic, isnt she . And for example, you know, we know that shes had some meetings with mario that i gave, of course, led the country up until, you know, the, the elections. And now the new government comes because this is a tricky situation. Italy also needs to access a lot of money the has given it to kind of get back on its feet after cove it. So i think, you know, i think were going to see a pragmatic maloney. I think we will see the kind of signal that her presence will give to the rest of the European Countries. But i think practicality in and, you know, obviously at the other guests will know more, especially at the times when based in italy. But you know, shes going to have to be practical and i think getting the economy to be stable is the most important thing. I mean remember that one of the main reasons that maloney took the power because its interesting when, when i made the feel, we almost didnt go to the maloney rally because me in the produce were going nash is pulling at 4 percent. We dont need to go there. And then thankfully our director made us and you know, that was only 2019 and look how she skyrocketed. Im in the polls and that is because she was the only Opposition Party to cove it. So when a lot of unpopular measures are being pushed through whether it was locked down or easily had very strict vaccination rules, for example, where you couldnt even go in to restroom if you could surely re vaccinated. She capitalized on all of that. So look, you know, that theres a lot of reasons. Remember, 7000000 people voted for maloney and abstention remains really the one window of these of these elections which is worrying in itself. So i think when it comes to the economy, we may see her be a bit more traditional that we may think or you know, working with in europe. Itll be interesting to see what she does on issues like migration. Obviously a key, a key issue for the far right and issues like the rights of minorities. Maria, go ahead. Yeah. When even better, we can go 2nd. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the interesting thing is that the molina we saw in 2019 might be despite to herself. And despite the way she would like to be, she might be removed from the kind of leader that will have to manage the country. Because were talking about project country for not sure respect, you know, in the middle of up, in the midst of a serious crisis. That is the recent war on the continent. The recent economic war, an energy war going on with russia with Energy Prices are tenfold. Does have grown tenfold from a couple of years ago. We Interest Rates going up and this kaleisha for julia was talking about. So were talking about a leader that was calling for the euro to be dismembered just a few years ago. She gave an interview like 15 a months ago, not 15 years, but 15 months ago, or no question in the europe. And now shes standing for are also looks fiscal policies. So what does that mean . And from what i hear, shes looking for technocrats to run the most sensitive ministries. So the finance ministry, the energy ministry, the health ministry. Its like an admission that she doesnt have the personnel. She doesnt have the competency nor party, and act, frankly, she doesnt have to write proposals the right ideas to run the scatter. So this is also fascinating because its not the 1st case of a populist the screen some yales in public squares. But the mean it, she has to take responsibility. This kind of populist leader, her becomes scared. Okay, let me tell you that we can i run the car in her place. I that we can. I hear. I also want to spend some time with our audience who are watching you right now. This is 11 says that labels dont matter. Whats my thing is that maloney loves a country and wants to save a country from global if that is one perspective. And then another perspective here is concerned about how she might treat migrants coming to italy. I am wondering again, ah marina, about turning what you say for a campaign into leadership. How will maloney cope from your perspective . Yeah, well in this moment i mean what we know is that the scenes to the election in the middle in it as a very, very low profile, or lets say no, its not anymore the maloney that we saw in 2009 in good evening and yeah, but the 5 and new, shes a spending all the time at eating economy. Yeah. And as for that, he was saying, you know, if its quite a candidate to the, to seek that i am making is a key argument against the if they can look out the government now, you know that i support high and they can look at the expense and also i think the and the guy that goes to the for the your own. Busy maloney and so for the man and g to it asheville, and then social of i p and the union and i see that we still have to see who will be that means that the most important in the area. So im feel that we dont know who will be there, so my phone on me and then the science and the, i dont think it, we can really the of the go button, the medium declination, but also in the over all of my knowing, i mean its clear that in this moment that the but i already design and you know, im not sure why you know, how much the diamond maloney is going to spend in these moments. So show that i, i mean its a very nice to see that, you know, shes really walking, you know, waving it is a, put you in this moment. So let me read for a 2nd because im hearing is that she is actually knocking off on the door so many of the spectrum rights and asking them to you know, get on to work for her. And she is getting a lot of refusals because the credibility pro is not there. And. And so did this kind of lead the rose a criticizing. The technocrats creatures criticizing mainstream policy making is now desperate. Who have those people on her site and shes not managing. Thats the fascinating thing and like were talking about migration, but at the very same people who voted for her, you know, the small entropy, nursing, norton, eastern italy. They do want Economic Immigration because they cannot find personnel, they can all find people. Right. That erica, im gonna, im gonna bounce off. Im going to bounce off what you are saying that because and i appear as an assistant professor at the scholar normal, i suppose. And he talks about some of the most conservative policies that maloney has and hes very worried about them and what that may turn it into. This is what he told us. Any da da maloney contained on the far right platform. She wants to block all the migration coming from normally, European Countries are social conservative agenda is likely to further come the rights of n g, b, t 2 people in access to abortion should she succeed in implementing our platform. Italy mans up looking like a light version of hungary, under or bun, or poland under kuchinski. Therefore, a looming prospects for the quality of democracy in the country. Are we here . Is that a concern for . For cities, you could not, you cannot be complacent in front of those risks. Of the same time i would say maybe to lee is to may see a country and to accustomed to its freedoms and also a country with a very