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ALJAZAM Consider This July 3, 2014

Teenagers believed murdered by palestinians. After news spread of the kidnapping and death. The teen ujer was seen teenager was seen pushed into a vehicle. His body found in a wooded area outside the city. Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu called the crime and motive loathe some and urged all sides not to take the law into their ob hands. U. S. Secretary of state own hands. U. S. Secretary of state john kerry said at the white house, the secretary warned against violence. We call on the ploort and israel to take all stems to prevent revenge and retribution. Im joined nick schifrin. We have seen violence clashes following the news of the palestinian teenagers murder. Are they calling for revenge. What is the mood like . They are calling for a ground swell of anger and revenge. They had a huge rally through the streets of gaza city. Trying to tap into all of that anger, all of that fury that we saw on the streets of east jerusalem, and theres a notion here of anxiety, anticipation. What exactly israel will do, how will they respond to the death of it, three israeli teenagers abducted and murdered. It was that anticipation before the 17yearold was killed, and so a lot of anxiety as to what will happen in the next few hours or weeks. Mahmoud abbas responded to the murder saying jewish settlers were to blame, calling onst rail to meet out the mete out the strongest punishment if it wants piece, and culled on Mahmoud Abbas to condemn the palestinianian boys murder. The Israeli Military reacted strongly to the investigation, by arresting many. Are they acting the same. No. If you talk to people, there was a rally in jerusalem. My colleagues talked to many people, and they said the proirty should be to find who killed the palestinians. That is a leadership issue. The notion of how the palestinian leadership responds. Its a real question of whether the both sides will be able to convince their people not to resort to violence. Its a question for israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, whether he will be able to calm the calls of revenge. Obviously they were enacted this morning. It will be a challenge to calm all of fury on the streets of the west bank, and gaza for hamas here, following the death. Its a question of what the police will say and do, whether they will catch the people that killed the palestinianians. Really, one of the most precarious moments for the palestinian israelis in 10 years. Well talk about controlling the violence. The Israeli Defense force reports more rockets and mortars are being fired. An israeli war plane attacked a launch side in gaza, does it feel like this is escalating. It does to a certain extent. Its important to note that the numbers are escalating. There has been a few rockets fired 36 hours ago. There were 35 strikes by israeli war plans. Today we have had a few dozen rocket strikes from gaza into israel, and youve had a number of israeli attacks on those rocketlaunching sites. I have to say i talked to many in Israeli Military. Theres a bit of an understanding between hamas and israel, so long as the rockets fired from gaza are falling into empty fields and the israeli army will not attack anything but empty training grounds, and a site where the rockets are fired from. An Israeli Military official tells me they dont have a desire to escalate. The Israeli Government has not come out with their response, and if one falls from gaza into an israeli town. All bets are off. The father of the murdered Palestinian Team called for both sides to stop the blood shed. You can only hope that people lisp. Its important to talk a lot about what is happening in the air, on the ground. Not only has the palestinian father said both sides should stop the father, the father of one of the israelis said the same thing, its nice to here it, but important to note that on both sides there are a lot of people hoping for calm. As i think people are around the world. Good to see you nick schifrin. Thank you. For more im joined from sil very spring maryland from a professor for peace and development, senior fellow from the Brookings Institution and advisor to president obamas special envoy to middle east peace. Good of you to join us. We dont expect much good news to come out of israel and palestine. Things have sunk low when you have what appear to be abduction murders of teenagers on both sides. Undoubtedly. This is a tragic period. Obviously painful for both israelis and palestinians, and it makes it difficult because obviously they both of these killings come as there has been little hope for renewing the peace negotiations. There was a sense that perhaps occupation will go on, and extend because of the failure, at least, up until now of american documents. And its getting too late for the 2state solution. There was a sense of resignation, despair, frustration. But, yet, because there was no violence, people dash there was no sense of urgency. At this point, despite all of this horror that people vase when they face killings of this sort, and obviously in the short term probably escalation of violence, it also brings home the fact that any given moment you can have an escalation, and this issue has to be addressed in a bigger way than it has up until now. Talking about the violence, we have seen clashes between israelis and palestinians and other city, despite calls for calms from israeli leaders, tens of thousands joined a Facebook Page named the people of israel demand revenge, and talking about demanding attacks on palestinianians as revenge for the murders of the israeli teen, at this point can either control the people. Its hard to control the emotions. I dont know what revenge means. Usually its against people that commit a crime. What has been happening is in both cases people are going against innocent people not involved necessarily in carrying out any attacks. I dont think we should call it dick ni fide. They are killings, they have to be called for what they are, and have to be addressed. The bottom line is even governments what want to use this politically in one way or another to gain leverage in the negotiations or Public Relations with the International Community face a situation where this might get out of hand. Clearly the Immediate Reaction to the killing of the israeli boys was that it shifted the focus on the palestinianians. And the Israeli Government was putting the blame on hamas. We dont know the yet all the details of who is responsible for that. But this new killing of a palestinian clearly takes in a different direction. The focus shifts. Prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu calls what happened here with the palestinian teenager low some. As i discussed with nick schifrin, when the israeli teens were kidnapped and killed, the reaction from the israelis was very powerful. Hundreds of palestinianians arrested. Is Binyamin Netanyahu doing enough in rehabilitation to the palestinian tooep reaction to the palestinian teenagers murder. Thats an important point. Its important to condemn it. They continue to do so. In the end, what do you do about it. Part of the frustration for the palestinians in the west bank, it has been that with come of the settler violence, and the price tag operations against properties and individuals in the west bank, what happened is little pursuit. Some get arrested, investigations go on forever, people are not punished sufficiently, sometimes not at all. Thats been the issue. I think in this particular case, where you have a clear clearly a teenager is apparently kidnapped and killed. As revenge. The pressure is on to see not just what is said, but what happens in reaction to it. Then theres the pressure of what is going on in gaza. Palestinians fire rock the and mortars at israel, israel is sponding with air strikes, including a series of them in the overnight hours there together. Hamas is staging mass rallies in gaza in the meantime. I guess the question going back to something you mentioned, is this building to a major confrontation that is going to put the peace talks further in the back of our minds . First of all, lets disconnect it from the peace talks. The peace talks werent getting anywhere before this. This may complicate it, create an opportunity. In the short term, the danger of escalation is there. I dont think they want an explanation. They entered into a government with more acceptance internationally. Clearly they were shifting away from that. They dont want to see a huge escalation, it will hurt the israelis, and hurt them more. I would think that Israeli Government, while it was trying to blame hamas, and if, in fact, theres a smoking gun linking the killing to hamas, theyll be forced to do something. In the short term, they are not anxious to do that. All the firing on each other. You can see they are trying to minimise the casualties for now, because its more anger, venting anger, asserting intention, asserting power, but neither side made a decision to escalate. But still somebody could do it for them. Hamas may not control some of the factions that might want an escalation. The israelis may rability to some new element that they cant control in terms of public opinion, so its really dangerous undoubtedly, and that makes it hard for anybody trying to bring it down, especially american diplomats who are trying to prevent an escalation in large part also not only because its dangerous, but its hopeful that maybe they could turn this around and bring the parties back to the netting table after, you know, a failed diplomatic effort up until now. Hamas has to be concerned because its been losing popularity according to polls in the west bank. Which is why they are anxious to join the government. They had been hurt by the ents in egypt events in egypt and alliances have parade. Nonetheless the u. S. Saw in this possible opportunity. Its a pleasure to have you with us. Thank you. Turning to iraq. And a poll that shows while many in the muslim arab world fears extremism some of the worst extremists and suicide bombings enjoy substantial support. Iraqi Government Troops battled insurgents for control of saddam husseins home city, on wednesday, a day after the parliament met for half an hour and adjourned for a week. Prime minister Nouri Almaliki, whose sectarian agenda is glamed for fuelling the crisis told iraqis that fighting the Islamic States should take precedent. Nouri almaliki offered amnesty to sunni tribesman in western iraq who fought with Islamic State fighters and said he hoped the new government could be formed next week. For more information on iraq im joined by jessica lewis, research director, a former u. S. Army Intelligence Officer in iraq, great to have you with us. With Nouri Almaliki saying that a military solution needs to come first, is he trying to scramble and hold on to power that many including the u. S. Want him to give up. I think that is possible. And i think that its a tall order for the sunni population to which he is messaging with this amnesty proposal is clam as to callous to Nouri Almalikis proposals. Im sorry how that will differ with the model of a new government in place. Its worth asking whether or not a new government is something that would achieve a different response from those who have taken up arms against the government. Its not likely that Nouri Almaliki will achieve a different response. You mention the amnesty offered to tribes fighting with the Islamic State insurge ents. Amnesty and bags of money bring the tribes under the u. S. Side in the days proceeding the surge in 2006. Do you think amnesty can work now . Well, i think that sunni tribes would say that it didnt work out for them. It would have happened in the intervening period. Its made it difficult to make the same argument gain. No, i think its the right argument to make. I think the most effective counter strategy against the Islamic State is one involving the mobilisation of the sunni tribes with iraq. At this point i dont think they would claim the government as a force theyd support. Talking about the Islamic State in an appointment of a caliphate. They anointed himself as leader of all groups. Is this attempt at taking power is it tearing the movement apart. I think there is a sincere chaps that the Islamic State has exposed itself to a strategic vulnerability by occurring nonsupport or that it is an appropriate time for the correct circumstances. What is important for us to do is see that this is occurring strategically for this organise augusts at a moment that showcases military strength and they tried to sinner guise the messages. We have a strong military. Its time to declare the calafat, accept the message and spread influence of the organization. Its a transition from a military to a political and religious, and is a vulnerability for the organization. Lets turn to the pew research poll. It those large majorities are concerned with the growth of extremism to lebanon, jordan concern is high, growing over the past year. What is worrying is that 50 of palestinian support some suicide bombing in defence of islam, and so does substantial numbers much people throughout the muslim world, including people in indonesia and pakistan. Hundreds of millions of muslims dont act to suicide bombings. It was a fascinating study. Id like to address both of those. First that there are countries where the concern is growing, increasingly, and some countries more than others. The concern over al qaeda in particular is cited in the poll. Its a strong indicator of where people know that they are in contact with that threat, in their own neighbourhoods and countries, and as we look at these countries that scored high on the poll. Its a strong indicator that we should look more closely at those countries. Go ahead. On the second poll of willingness to consider a suicide bombing, as something that is not heinous, i find that to be extraordinarily alarming statistic. I usually use attitudes about suicide bombing as a metric for radicalization, and for specifically the palestinian population to score high, i think that is something we need to take note of. I found that to be a shocking number. Majorities oppose al qaeda. Theres pockets of support throughout the world. Despite everything that happened, a lot to play for in ta poll. A pleasure to have you with us. Now for some more stories from around the world. We begin in washington dc where u. S. Officials said wednesday that security would be tighteneded at all foreign airports with a direct flight. Al qaeda was developing more difficult to detect bombs in syria and jemen, that could be smuggled on the planes. The department of Homeland Security said enhanced measures would be put in pleas at certain overseas airports. The move coming during the busy travel season. Nest we head to berlin, where the Foreign Ministers of russia, germany and france agreed to work during a ceasefire. Included is the reopening of talks with a goal of reaching an unconditional and mutually sustained ceasefire. Fighting continued where prorussian separatists were reported killed. Finally, we go to the florida keys where fabian koousto bested his legendary grandfather when he emerged from a deep water lab after spending 31 days under water, one more than jacques managed half a century ago. Facebook yns mission was not about one fabians was not about oneupping his grandfather. He studied many things. Fabian joins us in new york to tell us about the recordbreaking underwater adventure. That is some of what is happening around the world. Coming up southe coming up Southern California has become the center of the immigration debate as bus loads were met by protesters. We get the fall out. And heath data why medical records may be in danger and what that can mean to you. And our social producer harmeli aregawi is tracking top stories on the web. Americans celebrate after a lose. Tim howards recordbreaking performance is a gift that keeps on giving. While you are watching share your thoughts with us. Join the conversation on twitter and facebook and google pages. Hundreds of days in detention. Al jazeera rejects all the charges and demands immediate release. Thousands calling for their freedom. Its a clear violation of their human rights. We have strongly urged the government to release those journalists. Journalism is not a crime. A day after buses filled with undocumented immigrants were stopped in california, this town has become a barometer of how americans feel about the preps of unaccompanied minors and adults with children living temporarily in communicatize in the u. S. They shouldnt have been brought here. It should have been stopped at the border. Residents are fearful of the december crime and new arrivals. They are furious at plans by the government to bus 140 immigrants there. On wednesday it was asked if the reaction was causing the u. S. To reassess the strategy. Not a this point. Its treating in a humane way people that enter this country, and sending a message to people contemplating a dangerous trip, that the law will be enforced. That is what is happening. Joining us now is Al Jazeera America correspondent jennifer london. Good to see you. You spent the day talking to residents. What is the mood like. The boarder patrol facilities was the last stop before the migrants are released. With the reessential they have, are reception they have, are city officials spectsing buses to come every 72 hours. Today we are not seeing the protesters, about the the feels, fearful and furious they are the sentiments. Residents are taking this not in my backyard stance against the federal government to bring the undocumented detainees here for processing. We are not seeing the protesters today. But when i talked to them they say its not that they are afraid of the migrants

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