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ALJAZAM Consider This July 16, 2014

We are prepared to continue and intensify. An israeli civilian died from a rocket fire. Nearly 200 dead palestinians. A lot of residents are fearful of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A plane carrying 40 adults and children deported from the u. S. Landed in honduras. Many sent back are pledging to try to get to the u. S. Again. No vote on the 3. 7 billion proposal to deal with the crisis. Table. Why is it more money why isnt more money put into autism. Mother. Theres a huge autism tsunami about to hit the budget. World cup final, the most history. We have the enthusiasm. My kids wore american jersies and were proud of the performance of the players. We begin with violence in the middle east. A propose add ceasefire falls apart. Gazas death toll surpasses numbers. Nearly 200 palestinians have been kill. Thousands injured in the fighting last week. Israel reports its first casualty. Binyamin netanyahu supported the ceasefire, saying hamas would pay a big price. Hamas leaves us no choice but to expand and intensify the campaign against it. Secretary of state john kerry blessed hamas for not agreeing to the ceasefire. I cannot condemn the actions of hamas in so brazenly firing rockets in multiple numbers, in the face of the goodwill effort to offer a ceasefire in which egypt and israel join together, and the International Community ceasefire. A spokesman for hamas spoke to al jazeera, about why they refused to stop the rocket attacks when israel stopped firing on gaza. We were defending the palestinians. The israelis the question is for them, what you gain from bombing and killing the palestinians, what you gain from destroying the peace process. Joining us from gaza is nick schifrin, al jazeera correspondent. What is happening on the ground since the ceasefire fell apart . Well, the ceasefire was falling apart before it began. The proposal. People in the militant wing, the brigades announced that they had basically thought that the ceasefire was not written, wasnt worth the ink that the paper wasnt worth the ink that it was written in. Immediately they started launching rocket attacks. For the next six hours there was a lot of rocket attacks, thats when the military fired into gaza. We had a number of strikes on both sides before about 8 00 pm or so. It spiked then, got quiet. In the last hour, its been very, very loud. There has been apatchies running up the coast, half a mile away from me. Just a few blocks from here. We have seen outgoing rocket fire and a major israeli attack. A couple of homes owned by the Senior Leaders of political staff of hamas. They have been destroyed. Israel sending that message, and we have seen more rockets fired from behind me. Its violent tonight and probably will be a long night for the people of gaza. As always, we want you to stay safe. Did the failed ceasefire increase the possibility of a ground attack by israel . I think theres few people of power that believe a ground attack is the way to go into gaza. But, there are incursions that israel might be considering. There are basically selective points that theyll go into to try to eliminate some of the rocket launching sites. We saw that over the weekend. A couple of dozen of israeli commanders. They boarded a boat, arriving by the beach, in the northern corner of gaza, and they were engaged by hamas fighters quickly, and Apache Helicopter followed and destroyed the Rocket Launcher that was up there. We may see more of those. There are people calling for more incursion and engagement with gaza. The people around do not seem to be interested in that right now. We heard from a spokesman from hamas. They are accused of collaborating with israel. Is there a faction that trusts egypt now, and vice versa. Absolutely not. None of hamas trusts egypt. This is the big difference. If ut talk to the analysts, they will tell you its not about israel. Its egypt, trying to get them back in the game, that it needs to take hamas seriously. What happened, compared to the ceasefire from a year and a half ago is that general abdul fatah alsisi is the president of egypt. He made the Muslim Brotherhood target number one, the Muslim Brotherhood allied with hamas. People around abdul fatah alsisi say that they would love to crush hamas, as israel would love to crush hamas. Abdul fatah alsisi does not trust them. Egypt is next to gaza. Egypt probably has to play a role in this. And an analysis is happen as is trying to pull egypt into this orbit. And right now, hamas does not trust egypt. Egypt apparently did not consult hamas before revealing the paper we dont know if if that is true. Thats what hamas says. Egypt has to play a part, hamas doesnt trust it, making the ceasefire more difficult than the past. Thank you very much. Stay safe. For more we are joined from Silver Spring maryland, the professor for peace and development at maryland. He was Senior Advisor to george mitchell, special envoy for middle east peace from 2009 to 2011 and author of the world throughar ab ab eyes,ar ab public opinion. The ceasefire failed. Hamas is pushed to accept it. Who has the best leverage to implement a ceasefire. Its not leverage, each side has to belief something is in it for them. I believe neither side looked for an escall agency, they found themselves escalation, they found themselves there. You have heavy casualty ice, on the palestinian tied casualties, on the palestinian side 200 dead, destruction. They want to make a statement that theres something they are getting out of it. What happened in the mediation that we saw in this case, i know that a lot of people are paying the point that theres a difference between abdul fatah alsisi and Mohamed Mursi. There is, and abdul fatah alsisi is not a friend of hamas. The truth of the matter is that regardless of who was in power, mostly it was the intelligence and the military who dealt with the gaza issue. That dates back to mubarak, you know, when, in fact, most of the people who were reaching out to hamas, the intelligence committee, egypt chan intelligence egyptian intelligence, and they did not like mubarak. They had to work with them. The consequences were heavy for them. Hamas had to find a way to work with the egyptians, they underegypt is essential. It doesnt matter who is governing. They find themselves in a bind. They have to be responsible. One reason they werent responsible is not only that they felt they were not consulted. But, in fact, if theres an unconditional ceasefire, it puts them at a disadvantage. Talking about the relationship, as you mentioned is frayed between hamas and egypt. Especially now that Mohamed Mursi is gone, and abdul fatah alsisi is there. Does this compromise egypts role as a peace make are here . No, it doesnt, of course not. For a lot of reasons. In the long term, abdul fatah alsisi doesnt really want to see a major operation by the israelis into gaza that creates more anarchy and more possibilities of operations against him from gaza, or linkages with Islamist Groups in the sipi. Second sinai. Second, no matter how he feels for the government feels, theres a sweeping egyptian public opinion. When they watch the gaza war, sympathies are with the gazans, the palestinians. Blaming israel. They find themselves in a difficult position. The Muslim Brotherhood could use it against them. Part of the problem is unlike in 2012, theres a National Unity government. Hamas spotted that National Unity government. He was talking with his preferred leader, who represents this national government, president Mahmoud Abbas, and the question is why wasnt there more consul saying between the Palestinian Authority and hamas, thats a question. It was the Palestinian Authority and Mahmoud Abbas who have been calling for ceasefire. Former envoy to the middle east asked if the failed u. S. Effort for peace contributed to the Current Crisis much. I went through that once before in the clinton administration, where the efforts at the end contributed to the outbreak of the second enterforwarda, because we raised expectations and they were disappointed. In this face expectations were low, and no one expected us to succeed on either side. During the process that if progress was not made, we were likely to see fighting. Does the prospect, the hail mary hope for peace help to stave off the incursions. Shall we keep them talking to minimise a greater crisis. Lets start with how people saw the american mediation effort. I did a poll among palestinians, and another among israelis back in december, and just as american mediation efforts were starting. I asked them what chance they thought these negotiations had to succeed. Among the israelis 44 4 , you know, the margin of error felt they would succeed. Among palestinians, 11 thought they would succeed. Expectations were low. Even more informally, thats where the issue that kerry has been worrying about, that we have known the majority of israelies and palestinians believe its too late for a 2state solution. He was worried about a failure of diplomacy, but there were increasing people that think its fruitless to engage in negotiations because its too late for a 2state solution. Good talking to you. I wish we had more time. Thank you for joining us. 39 palestinian children lost their lives in the recent fighting. Distress. Its a known cycle for children in gaza and israel. With no peace in sight. The daily onslaught of guns and rockets makes it difficult to bounce back. Joining us now is the chief of unicefs organization in gaza. Uni self has psychosocial teams in gaza visiting moments and hospitals and meeting the children. What is a psychosocial team, and what are they learning about the impact that the fighting is having on the children in gaza . These are teams, essentially, that specialise counsellors and individuals who reach out to children who are known to have either witnessed Family Member having been killed, themselves being injured, their homes destroyed. Essentially the children who have been rite in the heart of this right in the heart of this raging exchange of hostilities that lasted well over a week. These teams are checking in with the children, giving them immediate support, in terms of coping skills, and then maintaining that contact now over time. This is taking a tremendous toll on children. And i have to say that they are bearing the brunt of it. The families that i have spoken with as well described how their children are absolutely petrified and in some cases paralyzed with fear. They are not eating. Sleeping, they are afraid of the souped of a car now sound of a car now because it has a motorized Association Like with the drones. Theres all kinds of behavioural and psychological impacts that this experience is having. Its having it on children in israel. So no child is immune, right. No child is immune, and no child should have to experience what so many children are living through day by day here. You know, bear in mind that the children of gaza dont have sirens or bunkers or safe places to run too. There is nowhere safe in gaza. For them. There is nowhere to flee. So every unknown incoming souped of a missile or a shelling is absolutely terrifying. I mean, you mention that. Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth. Theres 1. 8 million gazans in a small area. You said the kids had fear of anger. Is there a numbness because so many of these kids this is all they have known. Is there a sense of, if you mr, futility, that there is no future for them. There is that rick, and for uni risk, and for uni self, its a unicef its a grave concern. When i meet adolescence and young children, the future generation of palestinian children have lived through three cycles of violence in less than six years, imagine what that does to ones psyche and the prospects of notions such as peace and tolerance and understanding. It has a deep and lasting impact. We need to consider how we would react going through that. Its a harrowing experience. This young generation in gaza is isolated. They have an air, land and sea blockade. The interaction is looking at f16s, and Apache Helicopters in the air. They dont see israelis. Israelis . Unfortunately, that is the case. Many of them would be curious to meet israelis. They dont have any opportunity to do so. Theres no movement allowed of palestinian children out of gaza, unless they have an extraordinarily serious medical condition. So, you know, the opportunity to learn from each other, and to get to know the other side so to speak is just as human as you are, is ab sent. Really, it could address so many issues here in terms of the people. We shouldnt talk about size when it comes to children. Thats what people say, their side, our side, israeli children are suffering. Theres air raid sirens, theres a fear of getting hit. Relatives are showing signs of anxiety disorder. In 2008. Journal of adolescent health found 43. 5 of eighth graders showed signs of clinical p. T. S. D. , they are going through another cycle of violence and fear. What are the longterm effects of war on israeli children . Look, no child should have to experience the sirens of war, and the terror of not knowing whether or not one is going to survive or if one of their Family Members or loved ones will be hur. That kind of hurt. That kind of fear and shock, leaves a deeply emotional sky that lasts a lifetime. Its important that children that they have a sense of security and love and know that they are protected. This is what is important for all children. Children. Thank you very much for joining us and doing what you do. Joining us from gaza. Now for more stories from around the world. We begin in eastern ukraine, where an air strike left at least 11 dead. A four storey apartment block was reportedly struck by several missiles, leaving little behind but rubble. Rebels blame the ukranian air force. The government denied blame, but suggested rush jan involvement. Civilians claim to have seen ukranian markings on the plane that attacked. Now to iraq, salim aljabouri speaker. It begins a 45 day period in which to pick a new government. Hardest sit, a drought, 60 of crops are dying and ranchers selling livestock to ranchers in the wetter northwest stake. The drought could cost the state 2 billion in losses along with 17,000 drugs. That is what is happening around the world. Coming up, the majority of americans are furious at the pay president obama and House Republicans are handling the immigration crisis. Is there an opening to win back the latino voters. What happens to autistic children that need a job. A familys solution. And the top stories on the web with harmeli aregawi. An unemployment example of why sometimes you should just take no for an answer. Ill tell you more coming up. While you are watching, let us know what you think. Join the conversation we are having on the show by tweeting to us. Congress and communities continue to be split on how best to handle the Child Migrant crisis on the border. The law has to be changed up speed up deportation of Child Migrants. Its essential they say. House republicans say they deserve protections, delaying deportations, allowing them to stay. In arizona protesters on both sides of the issue rallied after hearing that 40,000 Child Migrants will be transferred. They have relatives here already. Illegals. Should we break the law and not allow the children to have a fair trial. Well take the country back right now. For more, im joined from los angeles, and al jazeera contributor michael sure, and with he from washington bill schneider, an al jazeera contributor, professor at george gavin university and scholar at the think tank third way. Nearly 60 of americans disapprove how obama is handling the crisis. The om good news is 66 disapprove the way republicans are handling the issue. Is it fair to say the migrant crisis it damaging democrats. Even though i cover politics, it doesnt come out to a calculus. I think when the crisis wants support, you want support for the plan to exist, to solve the problem. Mens, by and large supportway the white house. The what the president said. They support the action that hes proposing. It doesnt help the republicans in their elections coming up. The president is bad. Hes not running for everything. That made a difference. They are talking about support. 54 of latinos disapprove the way the president is managing the crisis. Does that open the opportunity for republicans to gain back some of those voters . I dont think so. The rubly cans like to believe the tea party are people with visa problems. They are not, they are democrats, angry at obama. Theyll be angry if obama deports large numbers of children, in many cases to their demise, their death. They are not going to vote for republicans, their views are close to other democrats, they are progressive in their views and profederal government. I dont think anything like this republicans. Some are baulking at provisions of the humane act. It may speed up deportations for Central American migrants. A representative said this is not the middle ground. This is the deportation on the agenda, dressed up in sheeps clothing. Harsh words, do you agree. You sort of answered or i guess supported what bill said so elconsequently. It is that this is about the fact that one party is talking about sending people back and doing it quickly now with john corn, and the represent ty from texas putting a representative from texas putting a bill together saying well expedite the repatriation of some of these Central American minors who came over to this country. Again, goouty air es is right. It will be spun that way, and to add to what bill would say before, this is going to hurt republicans. Theyll always be associated kids. Are you talking about votes. If the bill passes the house, will the senate go along with it. Theyll probably make changes, but yes, its a crisis. Americans want someone to do something. They are dissatisfied with the president and always with congress. Mens are of two mind. They are sympathetic with the children and dont want them sent to their deaths. They dont feel responsible, and the protests where the migrants are sent, people dont want them there, they want th

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