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Transcripts For ALJAZAM Consider This 20140816

Shot and killed. Basically smoke and mirrors to try to divert attention. Theft does not mean death. We got to be sure we dont burn down our own house. The white house is urging to unite behind a body and not against the Islamic State. If there are any Russian Military personnel or vehicles in Eastern Ukraine they need to be withdrawn immediately. It is a money saver on three wheels. Almost 300 miles per gallon. You dont know how it feels to be offcenter in a vehicle until you get to drive between the wheels. A new video by Michael Jackson. We begin with stunning revelations in the Michael Brown case that have outraged his family and produced more outrage in the community. 28yearold darren wilson. An officer for six years, no disciplinary actions taken against him. He was treated for injuries saturday. Quickly overshadowed by the release of a videotape showing purportedly Michael Brown taking place in a strong arm rob i at a Convenience Store just before the shooting. Police were not aware that he was a suspect after the officer stopped him for walking in the middle of the road. I know his initial contact was not because of the robbery. Furious that police chose to release the robbery report but no information about the shooting itself. A lawyer for the brown family said it was a strategic move to distract from the naming of the officer. It was a character assassination attempt. Despite the quieter night in ferguson on thursday after captain ron johnson took over security in the town and marched with protesters, the concern that the latest release would spark violence. Johnson called on the community to stay calm. In our anger we have to make sure that we dont burn down our own house that we dont go down there and vandalize our own buildings. For a legal perspective were joined by criminal defense attorney neil shaust. Neil good to have you with us. Lets start with the video. How significant is it . I tell you this antonio, both sides are going to put their spin on the release of the video and its significance. For Michael Browns family and his lawyers and the Community Activists obviously that he are going to say and they are saying that this is a Smear Campaign by the police to impugn his character, has no real significance, with his contact with the officer, certainly doesnt justify the shooting of an unarmed man perhaps from behind as he was running away. On the other hand the officer and perhaps the department are going to say that this video depicts somebody i mean first of all in the video Michael Brown looks hes a big guy, hes intimidating looking and secondly his demeanor is angry, its combative, its violent. His behavior is out of control and theyll say look its much easier to believe that somebody in this sort of demeanor would attack an officer and pose a threat to an officer. All right lets break it down. Theres total confusion about what Sergeant Wilson knew when he stopped Michael Brown. The police chief first said it wasnt because of the robbery, that the two men were walking in the middle of the road. But the chief said the officer could have seen the cigar boxes and connected it to the robbery. As he passed them he might have seen the evidence and connected it but his initial contact was strictly pedestrian. What do you mean seeing the evidence . There was a broadcast about a stealing and cigar stolen, couple of boxes of cigars. It doesnt make a difference neil if during the incident the officer figured out that brown was a rockery suspect . You know it does. And its sort of like the old question, what did he know and when did he know it . If in fact it turned out he was aware and did suspect that this was the person that committed the robbery then absolutely. He had more reason to believe that this person is potentially violent, potentially dangerous, is a fleeing felon and that would probably justify him using a greater level of force to protect himself and to subdue the suspect. Now certainly not killing somebody unnecessarily, certainly not shooting somebody from behind if that turns out to be the case. But definitely it would give the officer more leeway in terms of justifying his use of force. Youve been involved in the prosecution and defense of Police Officers. Had the Police Officer been hit by brawn, as all said he may be surrendering. At the end of the day, what was going at the movement the officer pulled the trigger. If there was a struggle taking place and brown was hitting the officer at that moment and trying to go for his gun, then that does certainly make a difference. If on the other hand there was a struggle that took place but as some witnesses have said brown at that point sort of pushed away and was running away and the officer pursued him from behind and shot him no, none of the struggle and none of the prior conduct would justify shooting a person in that circumstance. So everythings really going to turn on this factual, this sort of disputed right now factual inquiry as to what exactly was going on at the moment that the trigger was pulled. How about the. How about Michael Browns state of mind . Does the alleged robbery have meaning . Did he think he was being stopped and if he did, would that make a difference . It might make a difference. Certainly to the extent that he was had just committed a robbery, he may have been worried that he was going to be arrested and charged with a very serious felony, that may have made him more desperate to get away, that may have made him more willing to use force to resist arrest. So ultimately the fact of the robbery may have real significance not only to the officers state of mind but also to Michael Browns state of mind. Youve been involved in these investigations. Why did police who said they had this video for days, take so long to release it and why didnt they say how many times the officer discharged his weapon . I dont see why they wouldnt be open and transparent in this case, but legal considerations, first of all they needed to be absolutely certain that it was Michael Brown whos depicted in the video before they released it and told the public that it was. So there are legal and tactical considerations, but frankly, i mean, its a piece of evidence at least from a pr perspective that i think supports the department and supports the officer. And im surprised that it was not released earlier. Yes, a lot of questions about allow theyre handling all of this, neil real pleasure to have you with us. My pleasure. Joining us from ferguson , america tonight exornt ashhar quraishi. Correspondent ashhar quraishi. What has been the reaction . The reaction is positively, they have reacted to the name of the Police Officer that shot and killed Michael Brown, that did happen today. And people were happy about that coming out. But then the release of this information about the surveillance video, the surveillance camera at this Convenience Store that purports to show Michael Brown committing a burglary before he encounters that Police Officer, what is the significance . Why simultaneously put out both pieces of information unless you are trying to divert attention from the original which is what theyve been asking for, the name of that Police Officer and confounding this basically because they say as youve been talking about, the burglary was not made known to this Police Officer as we were told originally. So it may not or should not have played a part in whether or not he was stopped. So there is a twofold reaction here. But again today, just like yesterday, very different tone here. Weve not seen the large contingency of Police Officers, not the swat teams and the police in riot gear. It is still a very loud very boisterous protest here and its been peaceful. Despite the rainfall, its been raining in ferguson throughout the evening, cars continue to drive through here at a steady pace antonio. The family does say it appears to be Michael Brown in the video and say it is character assassination for releasing it as they did. Captain ron johnson was put in charge of things and given control over the security situation. But he was upset about the Ferguson Police chief releasing all this without his knowledge. Whats going on . Well, you know, clearly, he doesnt have control over the investigation. The investigation is being conducted by a series of other agencies including the department of justice, the fbi and the st. Louis county Police Department. His jurisdiction is basically to maintain crowd control here so it affects him if that way. If it incites people here it makes his job harder. Crowds have followed him, the handshaking, the hugging, this is a person people trust. This is the only Police Presence that weve seen here at all in the past few days, for him to do his job makes it more difficult when he doesnt understand the information released by the Ferguson Police department, which doesnt have any jurisdiction when it comes to the murder or the Fatal Shooting of Michael Brown, he says that becomes a challenge for him, he has to come out here and stem per things down antonio. Good to see things are calm. Al jazeeras ashhar quraishi, thank you for joining us. , serving as chief of police in de kalb county, how to improve relations between the community and the police. Chief, good to have you with us. You encouraged the police to be more transparent, they did that on friday. But residents are saying they believe Police Released the report about the robbery just as they were revealing the officers name as an attempt to justify the shooting. Michael browns family called it a devious attempt to assassinate browns character. What is your response to that . I dont have a response to that. Whatever reason for the release of that information i certainly cannot speak to. L but i can say this. My mission over the course of the weekend, representing and being the National President of noble is one fold and one, clearly a lot of dissention, actually, is there between the community and the police. And it is about feeling that sense of trust. It appears to be eroding and i think that they, and i know for certain that they, the Police Department there, and having a number of conversations with chief jackson, he understands the importance of maintaining that relationship or garnering the relationship with the community. Now, there does seem to be some infighting with the police. Captain ron johnson who was put in charge was not consulted about the Ferguson Press Conference where the information was released. He said the robbing and shooting were two separate situations. Listen to this. Im not going osay one justifies the other okay . I think if were going ogive answers we need not give hints, we need to say it. To play devils advocate doesnt this change the story though . Isnt it relevant to Law Enforcement that Michael Brown might have been involved in a robbery . Well, here again, youre asking me a question. That i cannot answer. I do not know any more than what, quite frankly, ive been viewing over the media. Now, there was a robbery, ethat occurred that day. Whos the person involved in that robbery, it has not been clearly articulated to the public. So whether it was Michael Brown or not, i dont know. But what we do know is that somewhere shortly thereafter, there was an altercation with a Police Officer and mr. Brown. Now, the where those two connect and where they intersect, i think that becomes part of the whole investigation that is going otake place, or that is underway. And it becomes a part of that theater, it becomes a part of that entire stage, as to was this mr. Brown at this store . Or was it not . And where do those intersect between that and of course that of the shooting itself. I dont know that, the answer to that and i dont think anyone has clearly articulated an answer to it. It all appears to be at this point just mere speculation. Because it is an ongoing investigation. Now, talking about the community and its relations with the police, theres little doubt that ferguson needs more diversity on the police force. 53 officers, only three African American in a city thats more than twothirds black. Why i know youve spoken with the chief of police about that but how does it even get to that point where there is just such an enormous dichotomy between a police force and a community . Well, you know there could be numbers of reasons for it and im just going to speculate for a moment. We dont know what the demographics of that city may have been 15, 20 years ago. I dont know that, you know i dont have that piece of demographic history. It was predominantly white in the 50s but that began to change in the 80s. I dont know about that, but it is a grave concern, you have a 67 population that is African American and you have a Police Department that is about 97 white. And you have 3 African Americans white. That is a real grave concern. And i have had brief conversation with chief with the chief about that. And were going to have that conversation further. And were going to Work Together, that city and noble, were going to Work Together to resolve some of those issues and were going to do whatever we can to help them. Now youre pushing for police to be required to have those wearable cameras and record interactions with citizens. Now were seeing police being so militarized with such incredible and expensive equipment. So why isnt that already the fact across the country, certainly in significant size police forces, that those cameras are everywhere . Well, i think we all would agree that a couple of nights ago, with the militarystyle posture you saw out there, that was somewhat questionable, very questionable in regards to people who were just peacefully protesting and officers standing there with long rifles and sniper on top of a vehicle, pointing it out at the citizens. Absolutely that is not acceptable under those circumstances. There are times when Police Departments must have a swat team thats prepared to engage a threat that is a threat to the community. But that was not the case the other night. And so that was another misstep that took place. Because that should not we see a very different approach now a softer approach now and it is working. And so as we move forward, this is going to be part of some of the things that were going to learn how, theyre going to learn how to do better. And i think theres going to be some lessons for Police Departments across the country as well, too. When to employ those type of tactics, when youre up against someone who is a posing threat to the community. But in this case youre talking about citizens unarmed who are peacefully trying to protest their concern and it only created a worsening problem. Dr. Cedric alexander, pleasure to have you with us. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up the Islamic State Group Carries out another massacre. Are western nations doing enough to stop the terrorists . Also ukrainian officials claim theyve partially destroyed an Armed Russian convoy, kremlin officials call it a fantasy, but could it be a fantasy between ukrainian and russia . International pressure continued to build friday against the Islamic State group against atrocities in syria and iraq. European endorsers, in Northern Iraq and the u. N. Security Council Voted unanimously to black list leaders of i. S. And others linked to al qaeda. Reports claim the jihadists have killed at least 80 yazidi men and abducted women from iraq, they arrived in vehicles and started their killing this afternoon. We believe its because of their creed. Convert or be killed. For more im joined from london by majiid noaz. A former Ranking Member of the Islamist Group hisbut tarir. Hes the author of radical my journey out of islam terrorism. You wrote a powerful piece that said the International Community must do more to help the yazidi persecute id by i. S. I think thats what the Islamic State is attempting in iraq, dlairk their intention in the world, posing with all sorts of gruesome photographs of what they intend to do with the yazidis, the christians and telling people they are enslaving women and raping them as sex slaves. At the time i wrote the piece there were thousands upon thousands of Yazidi Community on mount sinjar surround he by Islamic State members and the i. S. Members threatened to kill them on air. I pleaded with president obama to strike at i. S. Forces and strike in their fight back against i. S. Professionally im enco

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