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As much as anybody else in the House of Commons in these circumstances it's not a word I would have used personally but I think as I say everybody is under a very to constrain the problem here is Parliament promised to implement the result of the referendum and parliament has failed to do so the us Democratic hopeful Joe Biden has tweeted that Congress must hold Donald Trump accountable it's over claims the president applied pressure to the Ukrainian leader to look into corruption claims against Mr Biden his son which is led to an impeachment inquiry the White House even released details of the phone call and Mr Trump denies the allegations Adam Schiff is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee there was only one message that the president of Ukraine got from that call and that was this is what I need I know what you need like any mafia boss the president didn't need to say that's a nice country you have it be a shame if something happened to it because that was clear from the conversation the government says will cost around $100000000.00 pounds to bring back Thomas Cook customers who were brought after the company collapsed 30000 of the estimated 150000 holidaymakers affected have already returned and Swedish researches say man who need treatment for infertility have a high risk of prostate cancer in later life the study formal and university says young men with fertility issues should be screened earlier for the disease which had gone up in is our World Affairs Correspondent The research was based on data from more than a 1000000 births in Sweden over 20 years the team led by experts from the University concluded that men who'd had infertility treatments had a remarkably high risk of developing prostate cancer when compared with those in the group where conception had been natural let's say the sport now where the shadow Saka Manchester United survived diskette in the 3rd round of the League Cup as Rochdale took them to penalties at Old Trafford United won the shootout after they'd finished 11 in 90 minutes 3 League One sides did they provide significant upset. Oxford United and Barrister West Ham for nail Bournemouth lost 2 nil at Burton while Sheffield United were beaten one nil at home by Sunderland Celtic Rangers Hearts and Hibs are all through to the semifinals of the Scottish League Cup Janine Becky 5 hattrick has Manchester City completed an 111 aggregate win over Lugano to book a spot in the last 16 of the Women's Champions League here in the ladies were knocked out 92 by Slavia Prague over 2 legs a free 1st sub committee has recommended establishing a cap on the percentage agents can take in transfers and also to limit the numbers of players on loan the ideas will go to the fee for council next month and Essex are on the brink of winning cricket's County Championship after bad weather prevented play on day 3 of their title decider against Somerset this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Salads. Al the weather unsettled and windy day with early outbreaks of rain clearing to the east leaving Sydney spells and blustery showers these will be most frequent in the West and some will be having. As many silicon. Economies up. In the last b.b.c. As you'll find. 29 c. . If you find life sports extra. With the Rugby Union week casting download on b.b.c. Sounds. Good marketing on. The u.k. Or digital and online abroad shop all right and then this final hour of our program will be taking a look to legalize. Of cannabis and Canberra it's convenient will be going to India where in Punjab the government says that Pakistani drones are dropping packages of arms. And they will be hearing from David Rush who's raised all kinds of money by breaking all sorts of records and getting himself in the Guinness Book of World Records and why he wanted to toss Proteus. We're going to begin though in the very last salient state to decriminalize abortion and which one would it be well no other state than New South Wales there were moves by the liberals even as this bill passed to challenge the Premier of New South Wales not to do it Ashley raper as a.b.c. State political reporter for New South Wales and is with us Hello Ashley. Hello well. It might seem you know in a in a country and I'm I have to be very careful with this because England and Scotland and Wales are covered by very different abortion regulations from Northern Ireland but there has been a lot more freedom about that in angle and in Scotland and Wales than the Seems to be in the still you know why is a so you have been. So reluctant to do this. This is been a very problematic issue in New South wilds and to be completely out of Ocean does take place in the South was about 20000 CIA's what they estimate I didn't know protected by a court decision so very rarely the women process for carrying out abortion or medical practitioners being prosecuted for for carrying them out but it was still a crime in the Crimes Act which does limit its ability for a little threat but it hangs those of women's heads and medical practitioners hate that that perhaps they could be prosecuted so it was a crime but a crime 119 years ago and today the new South was calm and has voted to get out of the Crimes Act and decriminalize it in yourself while good history and is there any restrictions at all and in terms of criminality because for so many American states is very difficult to to get a legal abortion after 24 weeks. So here in the south Wells they'll be. Abortion will be allowed up to 22 weeks no questions asked to that provides an abortion post 22 weeks that contained all 2 doctors and this was contentious and there has been about 8 weeks of to play around these low house of parliament and now the house around like term abortion and putting restrictions on this in this bill has become more conservative then than when it started the process the original bill that was introduced at the beginning of August. A little different to the one that has passed a diet so much both here Bill there's been a lot. She's put into it in terms of making sure that they're banning abortions on the basis of 6 election or so now if an abortion takes place post $22.00 ways it must be done in a public hospital so there are a local framework and barriers that have been built into this bill as it's gone through the house by. The house or be a lot of anger as a but a lot of objection from bodies like the Roman Catholic Church for example. Religious groups and a lot of pro it lost groups have come out or even. Though being that has come from these groups which is saying a protest 2 weeks ago that I was out around there was a $5000.00 people on the Sunday rallying against the bill but it's not a bring this to the gates of Parliament leaving the column and especially within the Liberal Party which is the party that is the government. While they are the conservative mainstream party south wells and it's revealed as division within that cause even more than Huff of the m.p. Against the bill and there's been a lot of anger directed towards the leader of that posse the premier Gladys very quickly and there was a vain attempt to make a move on her leadership they called a spill it didn't end up happening but that is being the level of I am God that has occurred among empty. And the so big state level and not just in New South Wales other significant differences than between the conditions in New South Wales and in other states. Coing plan which is of course to say. The criminalized abortion last year in the bill that was presented to the south while. Was almost identical to that bill in Queensland so they will have the same restriction but we've been hit up he with a lot to the bulky appeal if you will Barry's and restrictions and people on this on doctors in some cases and then less restrictions fewer restrictions rather than in other cases. It's also similar to the Turia but they allow portions up to $24.00 weeks so we almost end up here in the south whilst we the most conservative all the the most regulated abortion bill in the country well thank you thank you very much for talking to us thank you. Well as you may know parliament reconvene on Wednesday for those who hope to bring the M.P.'s back might see some kind of a breakthrough well dream on the same to Orly ramp up the divide between the 2 sides in the Commons as opposition M.P.'s accused the Prime Minister of using language that was shocking and shameful and dangerous earlier Mr Johnson said the Supreme Court was wrong to rule that and suspended parliament had broken the law then came the anger when he described the law which demands for a Bracks extension as a surrender bill our political correspondent Nick Ardley told me what he saw in the Commons yesterday I think in Westminster there is a level of anger that I've never really seen before I chili and I mean the exchanges in the Commons were probably the most heated and angry in recent years despite all the frustrations over Bracks is never quite boiled over to that point accomplish things in particular I think the relying guys at the prime minister describing the idea off asking for an extension that legislation that mandates an extension calling that a surrender or a capitulation bow saying that he wasn't going to Patrice voters there was there was genuine feuded on the opposition benches about that and I think that was only grass abated when people who own the labor benches were asking Boris Johnson to Temple his limey Jefferson slightly and he referred to as humbug and really wasn't didn't seem to have you know been gauging with the idea that this could be quite in Sydney and I've got to see Rudd it's not just Labor M.P.'s who are saying I spoke to one Tory m.p. And as Boris Johnson used to speak in the Commons that just said the strategy is. Disaster is not working in you get the impression that the nutters of one nutters of course is a political phrase often used for you know the extremists in a party the extremists on the other side on yeah yeah but the whole Sure the culture secretary Nicky Morgan a month ago Boris Johnson seemed to have ironed discipline in his cabinet but the coach is actually Nicky Morgan's tweeted the last few hours with a pretty thinly veiled rebuke to her boss saying in her words at a time of strong feelings we all need to remind ourselves of the effect of everything we say on those watching us the the former walking pension Secretary Rod is going further saying it's a dangerous line which Brandon Cox the husband of of George Cox who Boris Johnson invoked the memory often Ed and those exchanges to call for a break had to be done said he was sick to see her name being used in that way and number 10 aren't really responding tonight. The just does seem to be attention at Westminster that has the goes a bit farther than much of what we've seen before. When they you know political pundits are one thing and you know they all said you know Mr Johnson's coming by the chaos but then in terms of the you know rank and file m.p. If there is such a thing do they think it's chaos that they see some strand of organization to their way that the next week or so is going to go well I mean firstly in terms of organization of Boris Johnson is trying to do there are many Conservative M.P.'s who think this is a simple strategy to prepare for a general election by saying I am Boris Johnson I'm the man trying to stick up for brakes I'm on the side of you the people and these awful folks in parliament are trying to stop me delivering on your will what does that do it creates a situation in which he hopes he can win or. The races here voters that couldn't win she called the snap general election in 2017 but more broadly than that you have a parliament which has you know really got itself into an extraordinary situation where the government has lost control can't get what it wants done in Parliament noise that the the majority of M.P.'s are against their own are intent on for straightening it but at the same time you have a majority of M.P.'s who can't be sure that they're going to get with the warrant because the prime minister has made it clear time and time again that under no circumstances will he ask for a bricks extension in fact one of the kind of base that was messed in the debate on . On the floor of the commons was Boris Johnson being asked specifically were you going to ask for an extension if you can't get a deal as the law says and Boris Johnson said very specifically no so it's impossible rod to be honest to really figure out where this is going to go it feels like the the crisis is reaching a crunch point but without a clear route out of it. When the prime minister says well he might suspend parliament gives a coup they might suspend parliament again how can he do that if the conversation is being had by some and I've got to say this is whispers and I'm not sure it's quite a point where we could say definitively that it's on the table but it's something that's been discussed is number 10 we're saying that if M.P.'s and the opposition parties didn't take the opportunity they were given by the government to table a vote of no confidence and of the time to vote in whether they had confidence in the government in and entertain basically to force a general election if they didn't vote for that then the presumption the government would make is that M.P.'s do have confidence in the government and more importantly in their brakes strategy now of course far more complicated than that but the the suggestion that some of been making a number 10 more asked about this and more equivocal on it was that Boris Johnson could argue that he gave M.P.'s an extra device an extra chance to try and bring down his government if they didn't have faith in him and they didn't take it therefore he is he commands the support of the house and can go ahead with doing what he wants to use his powers to Parag when they get there I'm not sure if they own a stance or it's possible because nobody has ruled we do live in these on president and president and times where we have a government is prepared to go beyond for others might see is acceptable or what some and the opposition parties might see as fair but we are in this extraordinary period where I think you'd be a fool to rule anything out as any business actually settled for the morning there will be a vote on whether to have a very brief 33 day recess Monday choose. The Wednesday for the conservative conference which is taking place in in Manchester got to say things almost no prospects will pass because office parties aren't going to allow the government to do it the Conservative Party in response will say that this is bad for the economy of Manchester the Congress to stay place is bad for Democratic president they think that this is an important institution of the democratic process but that will happen there's a debate but perhaps the more interesting thing that will happen on Thursday is all the opposition leaders are going to meet in Jeddah me Corbin's office and figure out what they're going to do next their strategy for next week and whether they try and force the government's hand on something else laws being discussed among them nothing firm really on the table at the moment but that may change. Well change focus to the Czech Republic where the prime minister Mr Babich was facing fraud charges However prosecutors there finally halted them I asked Rob Cameron to Tell Me More Well this is yet the big political story here in the Czech Republic and really it is after 4 years of this political and criminal case against the Czech prime minister underlaid Babiche who was under formal charges allegations that he before he entered politics he fraudulently obtained e.u. Small business funds when he was still just a businessman Finally after 4 years those charges have now formally been dropped by Czech prosecutors which is the end of this song or this really dogs his political career every seat ever since he entered politics 1st as finance minister and then as prime minister it's dogged him it's affected his ability to in the form coalitions it's affected the stability of the government and it has finally been decided by check prosecutors that there are no grounds to proceed with a criminal prosecution against him and there are no groans case over why did it take so long it's a very good question I mean it was a pretty complicated case to begin with but I think ultimately the prosecutor concerned and his superiors in the Prague state prosecutor's office decided that there would just no grounds to decide that what's he did and what he is alleged to have done is basically the switch the ownership of a conference center outside Prague away from his huge food and fertilizer Congo Murat's into a smaller subsidy so that would be eligible for a use more business funds and then that was switched back. But it involves various members of his family and it was immensely complicated I think the prosecutors decided that you know perhaps this was not done to the very letter and spirit of the law but in the end it was not simply a criminal offense and it just wasn't the evidence to back it up there's obviously a huge relief for him and a vindication he says because he says the whole thing was just a political campaign against him and it was very much involving his enemies in politics the media were against him there were even he said check officials based in Brussels working you know within the European Commission for example who were also involved in in basically perhaps not fabricating but certainly directing this criticism against him and making all sorts of claims of impropriety and financial mystery in that he said was simply not true and it was down simply to envy described again and again as a campaign by check politicians opposition politicians hostile Jack officials and of course members of the media and so now really he has been vindicated in that the prosecutors have finally decided that there is no case against him and that's the end of that so it's over as far as he's concerned there is there is no Postlude or anything of that sort no one on the legal side now but actually some people believe analysts here believe that even though the this case is now been brought to an end it will simply provide ammunition to Mr Bobbitt is very many enemies in the public sphere including all those have demonstrated against him earlier this year remember that progs all the biggest demonstrations since the fall of communism in June against Andrei Babbitt and also against the president Miller someone over this case and over these allegations and some analysts do believe that the fact that the charges have been dropped would just make the next big demonstration which is. Planned for November the 16th which is around about the time of the anniversary of the fall of communism will just be much more politically fired up and have much more potential to be a really big demonstration of discussed amongst a certain section of Czech society not just with Mr Babbitt but with the criminal justice system for letting him off the hook now should you be going out about Prague Perhaps you've come for a happy weekend you might just a couple people who want to relieve you of your money but they want to give you something in return they do yes I mean in Prague you know it's a great place is one of the most popular tourist attractions in Europe in the world of course but I think you know most people would agree that over the last few decades tourism has just grown to such an extent that it's has really in danger now of growing out of control one example of this is at the moment on the Old Town Square which is this fantastic beautiful medieval square with the beautiful baroque architecture and everything else now it's home to these people who dress in outsized Pand and polar bear suits about 23 meter

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