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Rory Burns has got 18 utterance and Joe Russo welcome our century he's on 55 days to a party throughout the day and it's very well for England the d r d they'd like to be ahead by the close of play have a chance of setting up a possible victory currently but a trial by 224 runs at 151 for 2 could he come and show mismatch now over on 5 Live Sports Extra but here on 5 Live and get the rest of the sports news now with Tom Busbee Gareth Southgate has described England versus Croatia at Euro 2020 as an attractive fixture for everybody England are in group day with them as well as the Czech Republic and possibly Scotland if they get through the playoffs Wiles' are in group a Along with Italy Switzerland and Turkey Northern Ireland also have to negotiate those playoffs should they manage it they'll be in group e. 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Overnight spread very cold again with a sharp frost further south out of times rain in the Southwest will clear some day another frosty start for some than a breezy and cold day with spells of a few scattered showers remaining me across north eastern England daytime highs on Sunday of 8 in London 7 for Cardiff in Belfast and 3 in Edinburgh. Live from the mall you know a strange. Thing anyone else created says I find life is clearly a living Sunday for its range versus Arsenal followed by a man just a nice easy Aston Villa from fall flat see. My feet is your full station this is 5 life. And this is up for not over 5 love coming up in this hour will be funny at the moment would see where the police investigation into the terrorist attack at London Bridge is directed towards over the weekend it's been focused very much on Stafford and Stoke on Trent. It's also been taken on a political dimension which we'll discuss later on as well we'll hear why the South American country of Syria now is sentences president to 20 years in prison the 74 year old carney on an official visit to China is any question that they will return home to face justice and the satellite walls tens of thousands of new satellites and soon be over to our planet should we be worried as space becomes congested with them and they remembered in hours time would open up the phone lines raw virtual jukebox phone in Black Friday needs a theme she is I'm sure. He'd agree with what are you going to go for as a theme choosing to Black Friday it saves me from now an 85 or 5 or email up all night or b.b.c. . First the license conditions of every convicted terrorist released from prison in England and Wales to be reviewed following Friday's London Bridge knife attack the man Khan who'd been freed off way through a 16 year jail sentence killed 2 people and injured 3 others the 28 year old who was wearing a fake suicide vest was shot dead by police after being restrained by members of the public John told more was the prison governor. Belmarsh in Brixton is a professor of applied social sciences at the University of Durham he says the system which is in place for radicalized offenders isn't fit for purpose there is no evidence to suggest that the prison service in this country has got to grips with the problem I mean one of the problems is there are more and more people who are being released having served terrorism related sentences and managing people back into the community doesn't come free it's going to take some specialist resources than specialist expertise and I'm not sure whether that exists at the moment you can't have a criminal justice system on the cheap and we've tried to have a criminal justice system on the cheap for far too long now one of the 2 people who was stabbed to death at London Bridge on Friday has been named as Jack Merritt a 25 year old law and criminology graduate from Cambridge University his father described him as a beautiful spirit who always took the side of the underdog correspondent John McManus was on London Bridge as the incident took place John what happened what did you say well it was pretty surreal I have to say I was crossing London Bridge just just I was that Sue to carry out some errands on my own behalf I was in at work that day it was around 2 o'clock and I don't know if you remember it was a beautiful sunny day here in London gorgeous sorts of day London Bridge always packed with people not not not just workers going to or from the city of London also many many tourists congregate there because that you get an amazing view of Tower Bridge so as I was walking along I remember dodging a few tourists who were taking the usual photos I stopped to check something on my phone and I suddenly realised that there was some kind of commotion going on on the other side of the bridge across 4 lanes of traffic I couldn't quite see what was going on from where I was but I could see there was some kind of fight happening a woman stopped next to me and I said I think this is a fight she said Yes I think it is as well and then I saw him realize a few people running past me so. Down the bridge looking a little bit scared I then looked across again to see what was going on and I realized that I'm a massive pylon like a rugby scrum had begun on the on the pavement on the other side of the bridge several people wore it same Simmie had piled on top of somebody now at the moment at that point I still didn't quite understand what was going on what we now know of course well that was at the high lawn where people from the fishmongers Hall who had followed those men can out on to London Bridge and where it's tempting to restrain him and to get his knife off him now I have to say that that point it was all very confusing nobody really knew what was going on and of course none of us knew what had happened at fishmongers hall live or we were totally unaware of that and I certainly remember looking round and and suddenly realising there were on police on the bridge one of whom was pointing his gun in the direction of that commotion. The police immediately shouted for everybody to leave the bridge we all started to move as I was moving away to the north side of the bridge I was very close to that part of the bridge 2 shots rang out I looked back and I saw that there was a prone person lying on the pavement we now know that was those men can the police had shot him we you know there were very many people on the bridge we were all moved off the bridge police shouting at us to move off back towards what is the monument to the Fire of London as were moving back up there I heard several more shots being fired as well and as I say nobody really aware what was going on what I thought was a fight what I need thought might be an incident in perhaps involving somebody with mental health issue because I'd heard a bit of Sharon saying turn out to be something much more serious but at the time I really can't emphasize this enough it's incredibly confusing you don't quite know what's going on but you're certainly taking quite a lot of things that are all happening at the same time and it can be very very disorientating but the police reach the scene really rapidly zooms from what you said was a very cool just on phone it seems to be by vehicle now as I said I would I had been crossing the bridge from south to north and I was very nearly at the northern side of the bridge when I suddenly realized the police were there now I think they had come by car I don't remember hearing any sirens as I was crossing the bridge but I think they got there by car but I can't be absolutely sure because it was all so confusing I do remember seeing one police officer start in the middle of the lanes of traffic he was the one who are remember holding the gun and we now know of course that there were offers over officers who were pulling those members of the public off the suspect as men can so that they could see what was happening but we do know that the police were called at about 158 this was all happening soon after 2 o'clock so yes they got there very quickly indeed and in fact soon after that point when we were all moved off the bridge suddenly there were police everywhere as I said the focus of the missing. Has moved to south and Stoke on Trent tell us what's been happening there on Saturday Yes Neil Basso who's the assistant commissioner of the Met Police gave an update earlier on Saturday evening he said they found no evidence to suggest that anybody else had been involved in this it's that which is which is quite reassuring but they were still making extensive inquiries to just make sure there was nobody else who might have been involved in in this so they can out to search he said addressing staff which are and stoke that was where those men can had been living when he got sounds of prison last December so they carried out searches there and they were supported by officers from Staffordshire in the West Midlands counterterrorism place and they haven't released any more details about what they may or may not have found so far I think we might hear more about that Sunday daytime John for now thank you very much our correspondent John McManus or as I say was our London Bridge as the incident unfolded on Friday afternoon now I've been hearing about the bravery of the floor London Bridge who faced up to the terrorist attack and wrestled him to the ground Thomas Gray is one of those men he operated search company driving classic many Q varies and was passing by with his colleague Steve when he saw a commotion on the street by London Bridge see even know his way to him and began by asking him why he was there that afternoon our I work for a company called mall car big city we provide a spoke site sinkholes across London in a fleet of crossing Mini Cooper. On the day myself and he had just finished a job at the daughter of the hotel. And we heard about a 2 hour gap in between there and then having to be present at the. Hotel very close to Liverpool Street Station. So we went for market to grab some food get ready for the job and then upon leaving bar market and heading so over London Bridge that's sort of when we then arrived at the incident. What was the 1st thing you saw that you realized something was wrong. When I was coming to the northern side of the bridge. The traffic was starting to back up which is kind of usual for the London Bridge but such notice people running jumping over the safety barriers that were installed after the Westminster attacks a few years ago and sort of running over the berries and across the highway and sort of over to the other side. And it was about point that sort of my attention was drawn over to the left and saw 3 extremely brave men sort of wrestling with somebody and I saw repast of what could only be considered sort of fun from afar extinguisher and it was at that point by Steve you know I thought I headed towards what was going on and what's in your mind at that stage presumably you're trying to compute what's going on here who is this well exactly that you know. We didn't have a clue as to what was going on we just saw people running. After seeing the power from the fire extinguisher mostly and I sort of turned the cars off. And where the pair of us were out of the car you know open doors it kind of escalated very quickly from we're out of the cart we're now running towards to go and aid the extremely brave members of the public that were already there and sort of chasing him over the bridge. So what did you do next. So upon leaving the car run towards where the incident was taking place. And saw that there was already sort of 3 or 4 men trying to apprehend. The suspect. One was carrying what I think named at the time a big bashing stick which turned out to be a narwhal tusk one man heard drops the fire extinguisher and everybody was essentially bundling on top of the man and trying to pin him to the floor. That point there was we kind of realized what was going on sort of notice the 2 knives that he was wielding So the 1st thing I did was find a disadvantage yes that he was barred by the time that I had arrived to the incident both Steve and I there were already $34.00 men holding the amount down and sort of restraining him. So we just wanted to to try and help them out and trying to make sure that they were safe as well because you know they they were 1st to the action and they need as much as we to provide really through. The 1st thing I did was I saw fire extinguisher was laid out on the floor where it was in between a couple of the people's legs I didn't want anyone to fall or to hurt and so I was going to pull that out of the way. And then sort of my attention was brought back to to the suspect and saw that you know he had a knife in either hand so decided to just kind of stamp on his left wrist is as hard as I could to try and free one of the knives off of it paid tape to his hand really. Did you by that stage had you seen this hoax would have known of the time suicide belt No I mean we weren't made aware of the vest until police arrived on the sing. The whole event from a sort of leaving my car and then having the police arrive was no more than a minute and a half and the response time of the place was incredible and it was only after the police it sort of pulled every single member of the public clear. For their own safety they sort of rolled the suspect on his back and then we were made aware that he was wearing what now turns out to be a hoax vest she stamped on his wrist the knife fell out of his hand or was it teeters on so it was a appeared to be taped to his hand so gave it sort of a that. And then. Somebody else slammed his wrist on the floor as well one of the gentlemen that was already restraining the suspect the knife had them being freed and then was kicked away by somebody else or thrown away or wasn't quite didn't have a full visual of the knife at that exact point. And then once the knife had been sort of thrown away northward London Bridge I decided to try and go grab a knife to give it to the police but by the time I got halfway to the knife the police had arrived and I thought probably the worse things we don't would be holding a knife at that point was he shouting anything only thing that we heard from from the suspect was get off of me that's all we heard really bizarre having to say good morning damage Yeah exactly and I think the overall resigning sort of message from . All of the chaps involved was it's not going to happen. Just kind of held and what we could until the police arrived. The instinct for most people in that type of situation is to run away why did you run towards it I haven't got a honest answer I have no clue as to why I did. It was one of those things you know I've been quoted as saying already that you know I grew up in rugby and the mentality on rugby or on the pitch or off pitch is just one in it's all in. All that something was going on so originally before even knowing you know what the incident was I wanted to go and kind of separate incident . Make sure that you know somebody wasn't getting beaten to a pulp. And then once I was there and then realized what was going on I was kind of like well I can't run away now I've got to stick it out and help our best I can and we know I know that those knives think you saw on this hand they had killed people just minutes. Exactly I mean we were made aware of this Upon arriving. The suspect being pinned on the floor you know one of the 1st question he said was what's going on and they said this guy should kill 2 people. Amongst many other rather rude. On on national radio play shot him pretty quickly on on arrival because clearly they thought there was a threat to life given what he'd been doing and the best that they'd seen. Yes So once making sure that everybody was clear. And that no civilians were in the pathway of getting shot they were screaming at the man to stay down not move. And then from what I saw the suspect then tried to stand up and then that was when sort of the 1st 2 shots and sort of saw the man fall back to the ground. So they were instructing him if he had stayed on he would have been shot. Down not only don't know that you heard them tell him to stay dine that very very clear and loud shouting stay down stay down. And clearly just was not listening to the police not you had time to think about Thomas. Were you frightened at any stage and. So weirdly The only time there was really frightened sort of 2 sections of all blurred into sort of about a minute or 2. Upon hearing that he was wearing a bomb. I was instantly in shock and really knowing what to do. And just trying to get myself out of harm's way but once behind the school bus I felt Ok. And after hearing what I can only assume was the fatal shot. And what Stevie has explained is sort of a small explosion I don't know what that was I just heard a sort of a snap or a crackle that wasn't gunfire. We then just sort of fled at that point sort of sprinting south over the bridge and hearing a sort of a volley or so shots above our heads. And sounding rather rather close so that was rather terrifying but. So you were still in the vicinity of this man when you learned that there was a possible suicide vest fashion random yet. Even though you had a vest I didn't know how powerful it was or what it could do not bomb expert play Call of Duty but it was your instinct to run. Instinct was just to find cover. And try and keep yourself safe and then after getting to the rear of the school bus was almost an American style bus quite small but with a glass panel door emergency door at the rear I saw there were you know young children want girl I can remember very clearly and I kind of thought at that point my responsibility was to make sure that they felt safe they felt everything was going to be Ok so that's kind of no real time to do anything but just really. Feel and I will. I mean the incident itself hasn't hasn't really sort of struck me I suppose. The sort of overwhelming support that I've received from everybody has been incredible. You know I can't thank anybody enough you know I've seen sort of messages on social media and so saying you know you know I'm a hero whatever and I don't really want to except that part so I don't feel I am I feel that the men that really taste of out of the out of the fishmongers you know with the task and the fire extinction the 3rd man. Can be seen jumping on him in the video those are those guys are the real heroes. And you know they really really did sacrifice that if it weren't for them you know I can say is that I would have done exactly the same it's quite incredible you know when I've been reading and watching some of the. Food age where there they are toe to toe with this guy he's standing there with these giant knives in his hand. Under toe to toe fighting with them pedestrians Yeah incredibly brave men. You know I don't know what came over them and I am extremely thankful to them and I'm sure that everybody else in the area which I had many friends in the area or extremely grateful to those 3 men and to the armed forces for so the emergency services. At the time stream a grateful to them and operation goes to those and so you've been getting as you've said and lots lots of people contactin

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