Transcripts for BBC Radio Kent BBC Radio Kent 20191217 11000

BBC Radio Kent BBC Radio Kent December 17, 2019 110000

In the faeries just Eurostar saying reduce service because the strike action in France will travel in 20 minutes b.b.c. Radio Kent call Steve 4 minutes past 11 Stephen for Jules until midday today and would have been talking about wide array of subjects in a moment we're going to continue our conversation about trolling and online abuse at social media we spoke to David Baddiel in the last hour comedian author broadcaster and how he deals with them and he says it's like dealing with hecklers when you're doing a live show he's going on tour and that's kind of what his show is going to be all about but how do you get on with it you know are there good ways of dealing with it you know have you been a victim of online abuse this is stuff that you know people wouldn't say to you face because I've seen I've been in the same room as people I know have trolled me and they haven't dared say anything at all. It was very funny for me and it made me laugh so that means that I want thank you very much indeed we're going to continue that conversation with Ben Kelley deputy social media editor at The Independent newspaper shortly also talking about pets on the program this morning more pets were dumped in Kent last December than anywhere else in the country according to the i.r.s. Pca I mean talking about re homing whether it's something that you have done you've been to one of these centers that you've really honed at how simple Was it how did it work out for you to do you think that feel that you were being given the 3rd degree it was like an interrogation almost And is that right or is it wrong personally Actually I'm thinking it's right because these animals and these people who are. Passing these animals on to us they need to be sure that they're safe that they're going to be happy that they're going to be content. I think that's that's kind of the crux of it all and also coming from of the other side have you ever owned a pet and you've had to give it up heartbreaking it can be absolutely heartbreaking if you have to whether it's for financial reasons maybe you moved your circumstances changed completely. Used to be in the day a was have you to give company an exercise to a but then everything changed. Maybe the behavior changed in time and it was just impossible. 10756. Text as well as a 13 double 3 Start your message with the word can't and email morning. 756. 0 text to. Steve b.b.c. Radio trends. Are Blimey haven't played on the radio for a few years a corner shop roomful of Asher here on b.b.c. Radio past 11 is the time Stephen for Jules till 12 today taking your calls keep the lines coming and 10756 Hey double one double one now then we've been talking about social media we talk about trolling we had David Baddiel on in the last hour and as a comedian he's saying it's part of the job to deal with hecklers. He says in this modern era along with everyone else on social media they have to deal with trolls too and he says you know he's had his fair share of trolls but he's attempting to turn the joke on them during a $52.00 day tour which kicks off in general has to say it's going to be in Dartford and Folkston in the new year so you'll be able to catch up with that if you're a fan of David's work but have you ever been the victim of online abuse how do you deal with trolls on social media I was saying earlier we we've we get probably more than our fair share here of b.b.c. Radio Kent we get people with ill informed opinions and. You know they try to shoo other people down when people join in a conversation whether it's on Facebook or on Twitter some of it's quite foul language that they use. They're normally terrible at spelling you know that's their fault and don't even talk to me about grammar and punctuation with some of these morons. And then Kelly is the deputy social media editor at The Independent joins me now hello Ben good morning morning to you David Baddiel dealing with trolls in the same way he tackles head closed is that a good way of handling them. Well it's not wrong I think the same kind of real life problems you know nothing each other fundamentally but someone's going to you know stick there over and attack someone like whether it's in real life or on social media they've got to. Take it back as well I think and if you can find any way of dealing with that which obviously he has a lot of other sort of well known people do as well on social media then I think that's all right that's all the fair game. Yeah I think if you get involved you're going to get it back yet you've got to be able to take it if you can if you're going to give it in the 1st place absolutely have we seen other people doing this I'm someone who springs to mind would be James Blunt to who seems to this way of destroying trolls yeah he kind of yeah you're right kind of. And it's quite novel because we can't afford this being wishy washy and you know wishy washy music and he starts putting these are things I think of one where some of the tweeted him saying you know change don't ask God to read 4 songs in an irritating voice and he just wrote back saying no mortgage. Is perfect and no one gets hurt you know and he's kind of the person quite perfectly really yeah he does a very very well obviously there of a celebrity you know we won't name names but let's look at the president of the United States or Good Morning host so you know just get quite nasty and it's sort of the sense of I think that never really entertaining nor productive really no absolutely there is a fine line though isn't there because you know some of the stuff that goes on is quite abhorrent my other half she's she's in the been in public life and she's had death threats rape threats you know people saying I'm going to throw acid in your face and all sorts of things nasty things like that she generally just. Ignores them and blocks them and moves on which is great I was saying when I was chatting with David Baddiel in the last hour I was saying I just get angry and he said no you must again you know yes you can feel natural anger but you mustn't get angry with him because I like that and yeah absolutely it's like that old thing about you know don't wrestle with a pig because you both get modern but they'll enjoy it. And I think the thing is well you got to remember it's hard to take into account when it's your family or yourself but the kind of level of things people are willing to say or put on the Internet is so much higher than what they'd ever do in real life or say in real life you know it's all keyboard warriors and the 4th sort of false bravado so you have to catch take it with a pinch of salt on this lay the kind of things that some of our elected representatives have been subjected to in terms of as you say death threats rape that whatever they have to be taken very seriously because that is a big deal but a lot of these people are just you know it's just a front really that you know they're there they're nobodies they don't intend to follow through on any of it but it's still really horrible and I think that yeah that's the natural side of a taking aside the sort of the comedy and the jokes and chides that's where you know you really have to kind of say Ok you know but then equally that kind of public figures don't sort of back with equal venom I think that's the right place all the time as we say this is too far. You know. The Genie I suppose is out of the bottle we can stuff it back Eden but what can we do to perhaps make social media a nicer place is there anything that can be done. I don't like to go down the role of you know enforcement and things like that because you know there's always that whisper of of censorship creeping in there but what can we do to make it a better place well it's sort of incumbent on us as a culture I mean we created this culture so we've kind of got to fix it as you say there's not going to affect like nothing was lost per se I think social media has quite a good way of regulating itself I think I think of examples. Say for example someone who is particularly nasty or older or offensive on social media or has threatened someone and being called out and maybe losing their job or being shown up by their lawyer to their family or something like that in a thing happens quite a lot in the kind of call it's cancellation culture and again that raises questions over aspects you know are we always responsible for certain things we've said on social media but that kind of thing does happen a lot and I think that makes people think twice before they do this kind of thing if everyone can see that I've written one of the consequences for me and so I think that kind of thing sometimes sort of comments on what those sort of catch people are it and it should make people think twice about what they write and not the ultimate solution that you know but I think that there is a bit of that I think that sort of shaming. Is a way forward and also leading by example you know it's like I said we've got people like let's say Donald Trump you know tweeting really nasty things and sometimes threat you know political opponents or even just you know the celebrity doesn't quite like the kind of endorse trickle down and it makes people think oh well if he's doing it and gets away with it then why can't i trickles all the way don't you know our teenagers and kids the people who use the most and they're entering into this world where they see that as being normal and so yeah we have to change the tone from the top to not kind of comment on everyone and public life and everyone's got a voice severe Yes because I suppose if we start reacting and interacting with these people you know most risks normalising in they'll just think that that's fine isn't it yeah and you know sometimes when you get something like James Bond to a snake end of quote treat someone else all of a laugh that's kind of fine but if someone let's say for example someone's got an egg for a profile picture and they've got enough 3 followers Mitch will do something completely nasty amuse them quote tweet it out to your let's say hundreds of 1000 followers you amplify their voice in a way that would never happen in real life no one's listening to this person no one cares about this person so I think we have. Make sure that you know if we're on the ceiling and asked us to react rationally by kind of either way 'd giving them a better platform or throwing people to the wolves which can also be a low but you know if someone said something you don't agree with me sort of we shared our common to retrieve their common they then might find themselves on our lunch of you and your farms or your followers that's another sort of thing that happens so it's very difficult to wade through but I think that it's absolutely important people like are looking at us so does some it up social media force for good force for bad. I ask myself that question every day when I thought of my death . I think it has it's like the answer that general like humanity in general has got to be for great things but you know we're going to have to put a few fires along the way I think I still believe in the good of Ok Ben good one thank you very much Ben Kelley deputy social media editor at The Independent thanks for joining us this morning any comments you have to what you just heard give us a call I wondered 756 double on the one Bush Johnson's name so he's trying to change the law to insure the breaks it has to be completed by the end of next year even if the u.k. Hasn't got a trade deal with the European Union by then opposition parties are accusing the prime minister being reckless we can talk to Professor Richard Whitman shortly professor of politics and international relations at the University of Kent Right now though it's 1120 here on b.b.c. Radio Kent Stephen for Jules and Esther has the headlines I can't jail for young offenders has been criticised if a serious concerns about the treatment of children and offset report found the Medway secure training center is easing pain inflicting techniques on children and there's been a significant rise in the use of force the Ministry of Justice says it recognises that mu needs to be done and the sense is scheduled for closure next March in order for improvements to take place the beautiful city with a number of boats with migrants on board of the Kent coast this morning this year more than 50. 100 migrants have risked their lives crossing the Channel to count in small vessels newly elected does that in detail m.p. Natalie Elphick has sought an urgent meeting with the home secretary pretty Patel more pets were dumped in Kent last December than anywhere else in the country there were $73.00 reports of abandoned animals in the county in the final month last year nearly $5000.00 animals were taken in by the r.s. P.c.a. Across the country last December it was their busiest Christmas Day in 5 years. 800 miles of road works will be finished or lifted in time for Christmas highways England have confound they're hoping to have 98 percent of motorways and major a roads clear helps me the journeys over the festive period between Friday the 20th of December and the 2nd of January we're being asked to check our vehicles before we embark on long journeys almost half of all breakdowns are caused by simple mechanical faults and now with a look at Kent's weather today his cake and cellar outbreaks of rain really coming and going through the course the day some light and patchy some a little heavier and more persistent the winds reasonably light the way the temperatures staying chilly temperatures getting somewhere between $6.00 and $9.00 Celsius overnight the rain clears east sky clears temperature drops down into low single figures and under the clear skies we could just see a little mist unfold for me. From b.b.c. Radio Kent for days on the eastbound and Susan was junction 5 almost 20 minutes down so one lane the carriage where the I'm sue for emergency repair works for closure will be needed later on today according to highways England but the moment just a lifeline closed in 20 minutes Eliza say busier than usual it's only a 2 heading to rain and then sitting born possibly avoiding the most who are able to flee avoiding most weather and it's only a $21.00 just south of the blue boys round about sorry south of the school because around about recusing both directions really slow from friends towards Tunbridge Wells towards Bonnie lying possibly downs or sets of roadworks 846. Southbound between the roundabout and monks way for the emergency repairs to the trains and ferries no reports of problems by James will be more in 20 minutes home 104 point us 10 in Rennes gate with stable and I'm to cross West all 96.7 f.m. This is b.b.c. Radio can. Dominate King's show bringing together the op's life in Kent live music and conversation you do have an amazing amount of different ladies of opposing are found well as a match to you a job at least 3 positions on occasion having money is not. For you to tell your story hiking. Public about that you meet on the way make. Back the Dell Mini King show this evening from 6 b.b.c. Radio can't see. This. Right Track ha. Ha ha. Knowledge away well I know. He still have a. Small piano but the knowledge. and the e-mails that we've had today thank you very much indeed it's been a bit of a mixed bag this morning we go back to pets shortly but let's go back into the world of politics just briefly shall we Boris Johnson is planning to pass a law guaranteeing the brakes it transition period cannot run be on the year end of next year even if the u.k. Hasn't got a trade deal with the European Union by then. The Prime Minister's had his 1st meeting of the new cabinet this morning and European leaders are saying that it might not be enough time to complete a comprehensive trade deal the opposition parties are accusing the prime minister of being reckless Richard Whitman is professor of politics and international relations at the University of Kent joins me now morning to you Richard nice to talk to you again what do you make of it all it's not really much of a surprise really is it well I think it's more for our benefit I mean meaning we elect. 'd partly because what he's doing is he's putting down a marker and this is you know it's merely a. General election campaign which is you know I'm there's going to be a full stop at the end and I'm making very clear that this is a stock you know the length of time that we've got to do so. And I think that's well if you believe the message that the electorate sent to the politicians last week that that's going to go down very well in a lot of quarter's. I think you know I mean we are still in a way in election mode because the government is still settling and we know we're going away with this cabinet reshuffle and you know this is really I think setting up. Some of the. After practicing you know after the end of January and you know if you go with that slogan which was very successful with the conservative party last. Year we want to say to people well we're going to get but it might not be in the next calendar year might be that long. But yeah basically he he got elected on that message and that's what he's got to deliver now particularly for a lot of those seats in the north of England that were leaf supporting seats that he took took from labor last last Thursday. The you mentioned the the cabinet reshuffle. And interesting that he's keeping and he Morgan is Culture Secretary this is she's kind of in a holding pattern though I think isn't she. She is well I mean she's you know she says obviously I got a much smarter suit of clothes to wear I think remember number the House of Lords a Christmas tree as well. But you know it is it's very unusual thing to do. And but I think it also demonstrates the confidence song part of government to do that and is willing to write you know any minute controversy that might be associated with us another signal is you know is the government saying that actually we want talent where we believe we can get challenged and that maybe from putting people into the Lords as much as having people who are members of parliament it's interesting isn't it because because Gordon Brown did this when he was prime minister he used the expertise of not only people from his own party but you know across party people with relevant experiences who were in the House of Lords and just because you come here you come to the other place it doesn't mean that your experience your knowledge and your skills you know die a death is it now absolutely and you know one of the striking things if you look across the membership of the House of Lords in the if you look at the work of the House of Lords particularly the Lords committees very often produce absolutely the reports because you know the people who are in those committees are probably done that work for work in that area for their entire working life and so they've got a lot to say but but there is also of course I guess the kind of holding to account I mean if you have if you're killing people in the Lords do you hold a sort of cabinet level jobs and then that looks a bit odd in the kind of democracy that we are. It doesn't look odd or is it just what we've been used to maybe it's you know. A change that we will get used to. Well I think it's it's I mean I think if some of these groups although he probably has the electorate feel pretty content we've got a good person in that role I think if it looks a bit more like cronyism you know you're having people who are serving in the cabinet that are sort of dodging being elected and then that probably would make people feel uncomfortable I think that he is striking a balance Ok let's move away from the conservatives let's move to labor and Jeremy Corbyn is going to address his M.P.'s tonight for the 1st time since the election. What

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