Me who's died at the age of $86.00 the broadcaster is credited with inspiring a generation to learn about nature but the conservationist who once described global warming as poppycock claim the stunts cost him his t.v. Career The B.B.C.'s David Sillitoe has more whenever you seem to turn the t.v. On over 20 years it wasn't long before he seemed to appear on anything schools program as Blue Peter his own programs and really if anyone was the public face of caring about nature making especially children care about plants and creepy crawlies and the world around them he was that person Davidson is a reporting the number of pubs in the u.k. Went up this year for the 1st time in a decade think it sure there was an increase of 320 creating more than 8000 jobs b.b.c. News it's 3 minutes past 11 o'clock good news and it. Does it in a way 102 want to eat local to. The scene radio Lancashire and b.b.c. Radio much to. The hour if you want to talk politics 2 hours if you want to talk anything else but we'll have no party politics after midnight do jump. On just a couple of thing you know the 1st is your ember the beginning of the show a gentleman came on and I hear a question about can you get a flower out of the sentence Oh yes. Cyrus Ok if you put the letters together the words together it was Iris and. I did write it down another poem pro-U. Spotted it yeah and the. Ok. And the other so what the question in this it's well if we understand here is what you think about this. It also mention how you are you are Beatles or are you a storm Pam and you said you Paul Yes but do you think on all the storms of gone arm Well we're still going on they are still I'm told yeah with great success but what if the people of carried on past the sick past 69 when they split up. What do you think that in the seventy's they would have either a similar ride to the one in the sixty's or it would have been a harsher ride for them with the with all the divergent musical styles of the common and disco all punk. Program the singer songwriter you think ya know I am well you know they they would've probably gone the way of the Stones who effectively broke up for quite a long while. Queen who effectively broke up for quite a long while you know the great problem with being in a group is you are always viewed by the public as a group and what of course you're not a group your you and you sometimes want to do things particularly when you no longer having to do it for the money in the excitement has gone you know they wow look at this all do you know one soul that's gone the a stunt to think about what it is you that he like but they all seem to start to think about well what can I do for money to stick maneuverings you know and so they will they will move on in a different direction because they they're not young lads and you're all scummy in a round Yeah they're moved 2000000 aggro on people and so they fall apart for the one who asked stones came back the Beatles my tolls of combine queen came back yeah you know even talking about I mean it keeps being said I think that to keep the record sales going possibly that but they keep saying maybe they'll get back together so so it is possible that at some point the Beatles would have reformed if only for a one off gig it's possible I don't say lie to me and we'll never know it's going on about well they're solo they aren't wholesome more number one in America than out here. Sole law artists then bring no stuff wrinkle so still tolls America oh yeah I got a career that was it was but no but nobody thought of a career of any sort after The Beatles and yet he was the biggest star of the baseball in the early seventy's when the don't know I don't know I don't know about being the biggest star it probably in how you define it was I mean number one goal to grab an American number one hit seniors while your 6 day number one in America well yes but the problem the problem is for him to have been a stocks bigger than the Beatles he would have had to at that time out sound the Beatles and he didn't know I don't mean about bigger than the big but the 4 Beatles on soul at the beginning of the seventy's because Paul released the 1st solo album in 970 and he didn't really have a hit single from me the 1st 6 Paul speak that was not there another day with with lindane 171. To number one but it was you know and John Lennon. Actually rang ring go off he said he rang him up and said a ring you know I've held any hits for me. Because they would seem to be the one I mean a string of hit me you know back off boogaloo see ring go stand didn't have to not be the only a ring go stand you know it to me in order for Paul McCartney to have a hit he had to know the the poem a copy of The Beatles Yeah yeah I'm for John Lennon to have a hit he had to be not the John Lennon of the Beatles when I asked for a ring go he was new only have a did was sit in the back 18 some pigskin. Directly remember the song me repeat took 5 years for him to run I was 16 I was supposed to count you know. Don't Pass Me By Was it really that simple I know why he began they didn't like the story and everybody kept asking and nearing the bait. Well as your song writing you go and he said it's a work in progress but it's weird about songwriting my counting mates of mine and I used to go when when he went on and told if I had the time I would go on tour with him for a week just for the fun of it because an option hoot and on one occasion whilst on tour with a company wasn't part the gig don't know I was just I was just hanging on but on one occasion we were at the theater in Stockport and he said to the crew at the soundcheck he said I've got a new song and that new song was called Bulmers moon when I heard the 1st the same time as the crew the 1st rehearsal of that and they were just deciding where they wanted the mikes for that to be right and get in the light try to do all that I mean we performed it that night and it brought the house down yeah and I interviewed him afterwards because I always used to take a tape recorder and I said I want to be techie to write that because he's one of the longest songs and it's actually very very poignant and his answer was. A very good way of examining how songs get written because he said well it took me about a month Yeah but it took me a lifetime because it was about the fact that he's father it wasn't about his father but it was about people. Getting shot down in bombers Yeah it could be called bombers make getting shot down in bombers on their expeditions to him from Germany and his father was killed and he's probably still lying at the bottom of the North Sea and Obama in the war never met his father and so he said it took me a lifetime to write that song I mean. Leonard Cohen my favorite perform I suppose Leonard Cohen and the song comedy Louie. He reckons it took him a decade to write yeah yeah but then he wrote 200 businesses. So they take a long time to write the good ones like yes I'm sorry I'm going off from Portland not know politics or anything but I don't want to know what he did I think it's a bit frivolous You know I just wonder what you told me because. You know about the stormy What do you think they've got I mean the Stones came back together and put that out jitsu way for a while and then to come out again an employee who Hey again I mean you know they're still occasionally fractious but do you think the storm will become a parody of this. I I don't think so because they when they tole they don't do as much of their old material that I would like they don't rely on cool mom and you know little by little and all that stuff they do that lately stuff which I don't really like not more yeah you know they've they've turned into a rock bottom and rather than sort of rhythm and blues strong sixty's rock Yeah well we have a we have a hint of what the being told what a sound a live when the ontology came out and they really free as a bird in real low. I know they're only there are there were songs from John Lennon and they just yeah but we don't you say I disagree with you I mean this is kind of so we set it for anyone listening and I disagree with you because they were written performed by the lads if you like as they were and they would have written you know Lennon wrote that song phrase above and all of that but he was still writing in the if you'll accept the expression in the Beatles idiom Yeah now if you'd have given it 4 or 5 years away from the Beatles and actually writing regularly like McCartney he would be writing entirely different stuff and so when they came back together they would then have to find a new way of being the Beatles like you know like Queen had to find a new way of being queen like the Stones and to find a new way of being the stones and try new personnel to do it yeah yeah. Oh fascinating Anyway we'll never know. Jay is young by 008-0218 double double 530 minutes past 11 t.d.i. Is new to you t.j. . Hi there I am very well thank you let's talk about. Well sort of politics but not you know entirely Now that's just. From now and obviously that's quite a strong Labor stronghold but the thing is I'm 23 and I've recently been into politics and you know a lot of my friends have as well and. There's a reason Jeremy Corbyn relates to us because he you know a lot of what we're where we come from a pain of rough buckra background you know and we never really were interested in politics especially I remember when it was. Ed Miliband was in charge and I. Mean my friends just thought well it was this guy when we didn't really understand anything but. If there's one thing to take from from from this Kerry at all but Jeremy call been a such it's it's his. Is the fact that he's got so many of the youth into politics in caged interested you know and obviously that's to do with recent events in. Breakfast such as has been in the news for the whole time that I think I mean if I give one just quick example isn't a lot of u.k. Rappers you know have come from the working class a rough background who want interest in politics and they've been indoors from Germany called in and someone called storms a who I'm not sure if you've heard of you know he's a quite 500 much but I have I'm not I wouldn't know if I would know if a fellow over him but other than. Wonderful wonderful Harry he you know encourage people to vote and obviously he said he was going to vote for Labor but he was the 11 thing he said was to vote and on that day I think it was a 150000 young people as are some of that wrong but there was a huge spike in within 5 minutes of him. That tweet just to get people to vote and I think that that's something to take away from from from this you know is the you think age which is something that's been we haven't seen in in a few generations I would say. Would you would you agree or the police say no if you don't but would you agree that there was there was a sort of rumbling of interest from you because they started young people started to spot issues rather than parties and those issues are usually related to what are called Green likes to whom I would have a surplus of points or think it was always always there but I don't think the youth really like had someone to engage with you know someone that they could relate to I mean I can say especially for myself like my my mom's been in the n.h.s. The 2020 years as a cleaner she does the same night shift for for 20 plus years now and and she's been an avid Labor supporter growing up I never understood why. She was you know I thought it was you know there's. Both a point low in does nothing but I mean like I think. University when breaks happened and a lot of my friends like and you know one interest in politics always just. With a lot of love it you know we'll set out where we're not going to leave the you know with whom we would vote for that and when it happened we were all shocked and I think a lot of young people that was I think the turning point was hang in a 2nd. If we vote we can actually make a difference and and I think that after that there was you know Teresa my last majority because they were so I still like them so many young people vote in obviously for different other factors as well but because there was a young voters coming in. That made I ply believe that made a huge difference I mean if you were to Creole if you can see that as well but yeah I mean I think not only do I do agree with you but all these so-called. Would agree with you all the people who still do so much as would agree with you the the youth vote made a huge difference to the outcome of the last election and. The Labor Party put on hundreds of thousands of new voters not enough to win the election and who knows whether they will now be well wait we took the trouble to get registered we took the trouble to vote we got nowhere so still fit with no idea what will happen. Absolutely absolutely So I think I presume you're going to vote tomorrow. Indeed indeed you know I'm going to be voting Labor anything that I work in investment banking at Central loved No I have a lot of people I know. A lot of them say that. I used to be Labor but now I've got money I think Tory you know I'm sure I'd rather that represent all of the of the conservatives it's a funny thing I think my parents' generation had an expression for that and it was I'm all right Jack Polar Lander op Oh yes. It's all to you t.j. Thank you have a lovely evening and then yeah. That's t.j. Talking about young people getting in to voting that is so lots of people vote to well lots will let us hope it's a good turnout tomorrow. For all concerned because it's going to he's already the. I merely said the most interesting but as a sort of politics freak I find the most interesting that tomorrow is going to be I think what I think what I'm saying is tomorrow is one of the least predictable and the actions for some time and maybe forever but it's going to be interesting when we are told that tomorrow night on the various b.b.c. Local radio stay. You will find out about the constituency that you live in if you live in Greater Manchester and then you'll find. That if you live in. And if you live in find it. Live in Newcastle upon Tyne then you'll find exactly. Station when everyone will be covering an area and you get the results of you'll who's going to be you'll pay on your local station of course they'll be the national issues. Oh I know now. About. Tony how the police are unhinged. Here's one patrol leader to say so no because. We'd better let everybody know what Jim Stone's face oh the bus come in Lady Ascot. Yes And literally when she went through a mile from her that's what interests me. But now I'm lying I. Know the little story I got to do with cause. I threw it so the lady is my wife and run. And she turned out to have. No love is. A no. No in bum street they moved. And I. Am saying Run Me games. She'd come to talk to him and. We just. Made a number so I run her around a Monday night. You know and she was another one that wouldn't play so we want to reminisce and she just said sure so lots of mice. Not to say that this. Man this week is how tough enough a way. I only run because change fell in May but he'll say Did you ever go to a recently most. Pain exit Centro you have been to recently most of Utah been there when he died yes yeah well I am now I'd slap. In Midland to open it actually open the file I didn't know he'd open it he was learn as you go and yes Say that again and then I had fallen to say I was neutral. On a trip as on Saturday Mon I tend to learn the bird. So I always had a great respect for. David Bell and I tell you how I wanted to tell you and I guess one day you know it had been a while and he had been a. Because he was also the president of the o.t. And they played chasing lunches here to us from nature comes out I remember the old C.F.C.'s Yes yes. I'm not with the one that was based in press. Yes. Well thank you for letting us know and I'm I'm just looking at your photograph in the Legion All right now oh I love you. Of course you do. For me to say. You know. Well Bill. All right well that's a good picture you know we're glad to not just want everybody to let me know. Ok Well good to talk to you thank you very much indeed I love local papers and they are essential absolutely essential to democracy announce a society is a shame that many of them advance and go exclusively online because the just isn't the money follow could pay present any more but there's a lovely story in the lead Journal moderations give free one key carrot to Rudolph . On a photograph in the rain days and 2 big bags of carrots I love local papers they do proper stuff as well like council rent rise will affect that are vulnerable says opposition councillors and this is a lady just hearing about her last on bag and all of that and I think it's I think paper's a fantastic to be almost anywhere they are and local journalists were bloody hot for not much 0800 to one night double double 5 pounder Trevor. Yes. Yes 3 feet high rise. Well could you. Were we will see over the Chronicle Oh who was such a will on. The grey Sutton who says that some local newspapers went to the wall now some deserve to cause they were crap the Oldham Chrome was a cracking paper it was and you think well if a good income make it to make ends meet what chance of the crap ones go well you know what you see an absolute another lady to improve who. Cherishes you no profit making. Group. We had to use causes like Foundation Foundation a little thing. Me local papers is America perfect make you know guys a she says not so easy going to say this so they say yeah you know. What they were they could do that over here as oh no I just got to know where the. Investigative journalist spirit to 6 inches less yes which is funded by a collection of news outlets yeah I will say goodbye dog no don't don't do sit with them but I mean I'm just down the way out of them because I've thought of John was only phone before now because interested in. Learning about stuff I don't know about. You read that whenever whenever I'm talking to people say. Oh I thought I thought you had to Jane to be living the life you did used to a long time ago in the days of clothes shop she did but not anymore the clothes shop was outlawed by a government some time ago so well. I was choking my State Department papers because a journalist was saying that all of the credit sation he gave to get a letter for you from the State Department so you can do. To. These conference I want to ever know you have to get a photograph unless to for me an employer. Usually for me or anything has. Time to show Ok Well no because if you're showing up as a journalist then if there's no way that you have to prove that you won a journalist then any Joe Blow can turn up. So they do have to distinguish Yeah I agree or not so slow motion that's why I was sure about whether you and you get a. Hard job. When you can be you can be. Authorized if you like accredited by the new judge you can be heard it said by your newspaper. And just looking at my my Prescott is a b b c one yeah now. They're on the national police chief counsel recognize the holding of this cop as a bona fide news gathering Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I know you mean that's why I get that money not money Hong Kong or the press all these obnoxious me for the money in Hong Kong I think he has a right to you where does this show us press right now there's an issue where do this unless he does yes now in order to get one of these you've got to establish that you are a bona fide a news guy that I know that's easy for me because the b.b.c. Does not follow me yet but if I wasn't working at the b.b.c. Then I would have to deliver some kind of. Every device of the fact that that's what I am. She was more we social media. Free for you not for the airsick I just want to know you go