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Yes good evening welcome to the last and so I guess rugby show I want McCarthy sitting in for Martin Valar tonight's summer clear out one report this weekend suggesting several Tigers players could be on their way this summer so this week we're asking how much work needs to be done to make this less the target squad capable of lifting major trophies next season who stays who goes for the Be thoughts out of 162511 I for my them if you want to give us a call in Texas one triple 3 Start your message with the word Leicester on Twitter as well at b.b.c. R.l. Sports will look back on the wait for the Lions and for England and also the Tunker International who is a less the Tigers player according to them but not Tigers. Yes thanks for joining us this evening I want to 4.9 f.m. In Cockrell in the studio with me as well evening in the evening can we start with that one actually who are not. I call Whitesell But John. If indeed it is hardest blown who knows the 1st point because I. Do think it's always player on their international sheet number 8 obviously contacts mount O'Connor when you do some coaching with Tonga so you know expect me . To see his inside knowledge bring in players in he was seen the ground on the last home game I can confirm So that's an interesting although it was just there is at least something in the rumor and obviously Thompson is a target kind of gives a little bit of earthing to that nothing said by the closer who knows what that situation may be the waiting for the soup Wednesday to announce the signing perhaps you know because by that I will know about it so they go but look who knows clearly I think he thinks he's a target plexi probably told salaries that's presumably where they got the list from yeah maybe these on trial it may be that they're looking at him and thinking about signing him it may be that he's been signed and they're waiting on a sort of a an appropriate time to release the moves clearly decent player you know good good tongue and possibly slightly project but we've seen players from Tonga before come and hit the ground running from what I don't see how any different from California obviously are pretty similar in all honesty but I think if you look at the you know he's a big ball carrying 8 if you look at the situation in the Premiership you look at the squads Generally you'll need 2 players in any one position anyway you'll need 2 players to be able to carry out the same sort of role that you need to change the way in which you play when you're you've got different personnel so you can sort of see the signing on that basis and the club have been publicly saying for the last 23 years that they've been looking for a big ball carrying 8 Pettyfer knew was was not the ball carrying them broke that was the way the reason he was signed and that went horribly wrong but clearly has been wanting to bring that sort of a player in if they've got 2 of that sort of players and I guess you'd suggest that's all to the good because obviously you've got options around the back row when injuries occur or see how that one develops but I'm interested tonight in your thoughts and their what you think about Leicester Tigers and the movements in them this summer what could be happening what is speculation what's what we actually know which at the moment issue is not single rating Do we probably. To make clear mark and you're right to do that to make clear that we are talking about speculation there's an item in the Ruby paper talking about players that have supposedly been told that they can find other clubs. And you know there is some sense I can see that sort of thing happening because clearly matter O'Connor you know he's seen how ruthless the border are he's going to want to fail on his own team rather than somebody else's team and obviously if you've got salary cap in place if you want to bring new players in you're going to have to shed existing players to bring those new ones in or might want to have the players that were suggested by there are a way out of Wellford right so these are the ones that they mentioned j.p. Pietersen Matthew Tait John I kid so Tom Kraft and lucky McCaffrey of those far you've Which one of those would surprise you most if they left. Well Peter's and well known of God All of them really in all honesty look McCaffrey I thought has been outstanding as a utility but row player since he was signed is probably as cheap as chips given that he came from under Welsh and nobody expected much of him and he actually played an awful lot in the Cockrell a major probably significant that he hasn't got a star once O'Connell took over so there may be something in that you can read something or nothing into you know that's up to into the mix so people didn't get much of a game either days or go away exactly right Peterson Peterson j.b. Peterson sort of splits the fans a little bit in that I think his style tends to look a bit long and weird and he looks as if he's not put in the effort in truth he's a very intelligent player and I think it's a lot of rocks as a winger puts himself into positions where his lack of pace doesn't hamper him and he is a good finisher even now and you know stories that he's going to prise me a little bit because obviously is is a quality player but if you're looking to bring other people in he's probably one of the ones what's not a marquee player he will be on a fair wage so will free up some of the salary cap in terms of that there is obviously suggestion that his interest is attracted interest from too long and you know clearly the. I have a lot of money in May Well it may well because attractive to him is one of those with pension John Ok. A lovely guy obviously is how does issues we've seen the issues the came forward in terms of the depression that he suffered from and you know it's been been a real part of the squad having said that you have to say that we've got some very good young scrumhalf resource in the academy coming through. Sam Harris and very good player huge fans favorite terrific scrum half Ben Youngs obviously one of the best in the world. Would you be better with that the scrum half being one of the academy products and bringing them all because there's a lot more potential for them to move forward what would argue possibly So who knows. The shot there I guess is that he's only just signed a new 2 year contract Yeah you know which doesn't reflect well perhaps one would argue on the organization in terms of who you giving contracts to if you giving somebody a contract and then 6 weeks later telling them that they're actually surplus to requirements. You can't say let's go sorry about that guys but it doesn't look good in terms of the organization the way the things being run book if it's true and indeed we should always emphasize that sort of speculation point. I can see why he was signed as a new contract because clearly covers for by he cover Center and he was a very high quality player back in the day you can equally point to a fair number of points that he's probably been responsible for against the Tigers this season and that's no disrespect to him he hasn't been in the best of form I think one would have to say including a try against Wasps in the semi final which I think was largely down to his failure to take a hard ball. Tom Cross what he said out songcraft one of the best sixes in the world when he was best. Tigers d.n.a. Tigers Academy product huge fans favorite has been one of the best times players for many years booked for the last 3 years he really hasn't played and that I think is the worry with Croft are they deciding that they're going to cut their losses in terms of his injury record and that he really isn't going to be back to the player that he once was let me let's let's say for a moment that all 5 of those players and you know we don't know if they if they are going to go where they might tell them to be that is all you got to say it is speculation and all of those guys will be more than welcome by the funds to still be at Welford Road next season Absolutely but how weak with the Leicester Tigers squad be without them well where do you see the whole a just guess that's if they got them the major gaps I think even before they were gone were at center. We've lost beneath them already who was covering outside center as well as we're going to probably actually play for the Tigers more center than on the wing although he's a winger by trade it was a winger by trade obviously Williams gone to Gloucester to be the flyhalf that he wants to be and you know clearly gone there. You look at Peterson can cover centers Well in truth that's also worry tight obviously started his England career and started career central though he's played more for but photogs played this is probably more at center. So you then look at George for being away the talk is that would be the 1st choice to step into 10 from center now that leaves you an awfully big gap 12 and 13. Injury record is not encouraging Plus of course if he actually is back to his best he will be snapped away by England quick as you like because he is the best the best the teams in the world if he's fit can play. So that center position looks bereft of players. You think that Roberts is going around as well I just wrote a song and I think I fail to mention just that it was on another 12 or so but it was 70 players that have gone in there that is exactly what you know is it a problem for more than there were just a lot of things or because I mean last season it was a hugely grows up because a lot of you look really there's been a whole lot center ever since Allen retired and indeed probably the season that a retard who was injured an awful lot of that season would look to have what we've needed an organizer at 12 position for a long time to move was going to fill that gap. Which is fine and right and proper because he would have filled back up very well obviously was injured early in the season then injured when he came back and we've really not seen him at all would have been trying to that we're now looking at him still coming back and great if he comes back but if we then going to have to be the guy who then steps in when George Ford is away because we got rid of Freddie Burns and we've got George Ford and Joe Ford as the options 10. Probably is you 2nd option 10 rather than Joe 4 No no disrespect to Joe will use a jumping ship player and frankly didn't that called at Premiership level when he played for sale when he had a spell with them with St. Hopefully we can step in and he will be brilliant I'd love to see him being brilliant but you sort of worry about it if he was genuinely the 2nd 10 so to Lucky that and of course that then takes that 12 away again you know so you've got that got that Anthony Allen left still there what for 5 years after until I retired. Your thoughts on this well if they say these are the guys that are going here to Leicester Tigers need I'd have on 65 want one eye for an eye if you want to give us a call this evening one triple 3 if you want to send us a text and start your message with the word Lester or you can do or Eddie did a little bit earlier and send a message to at b b c me or the Stranglers in golden brown it's less of. The coffee with the Along side in Cockrell looking at the less the squat then reports at the weekend suggesting as many as 5 pts August players could. But that reports have suggested some replacement we've been trying to have a bit of a look at who these guys might be. Putting. Someone saw your response about why you should leave the. Yeah it's all right now but we may have to get used to it. McKenzie Damien McKenzie. I think it'll give work and I'm an arche Muffy I'm much obliged to go. Pleasure Well Ok when you see those names on a scale of one to 10 What's your level in the McKenzies are terrific signings I doubt very much if Damian McKenzie is a realistic signing although if it is also the good Lord because you know he's right on the edge of the All Blacks Scotland in the side in terms of playing the lions and playing in Super Rugby so that's why I think it's probably unlikely that he give up and come to the northern hemisphere at the mall to McKenzie again his brother No the following player plays all over the place actually both fifteen's and ten's both decent kickers of the ball placed kickers as well which of course is another area that has sort of worried people a little bit with George Ford although we'll talk about Argentina later but he's kicking there look pretty decent Yeah I did so so that maybe not the problem that we thought about Fekitoa people would have seen if they watched the Lions game or the highlights from the Lions game against the Hollanders in midweek would have seen him then and he was outstanding I thought he was the best player on the Highlanders side I don't think Joseph who a lot of people said was a man's man of the match was stood up from a standing start twice and you know literally the guy made 2 tries effectively for the Highlanders So he was outstanding and Woodley again we've talked about Center he played 30 need to play 12 on 13 so would be an outstanding signing in that respect. My fee is another number a new big ball kind of break so maybe that's what it would now have been short of them so now we're perhaps stockpiling them. Suggestions he left bath under a bit of a cloud he was here for a long time that's very true and of course we have to worry about that sort of thing because obviously you know we've already mentioned 35. I think you know 30 but you know you do you are a little bit concerned about that but well one thing the Tigers have shown in the past is a. Ability to turn players around when the been a problem we can go right back to the days of Austin Healey who left it was to join the Tigers in a very early career was told we were told by the oral side that really pleased we got rid of somebody who was just a drop maker Yeah he went on to not be a bad player I think we all agree so you know the Tigers have managed to turn that sort of play around in the past and if they signed him are I'm sure that will be a project to do so the question coming from this I guess is when you see the names being less in size in a moment and granted George for Premiership experience kind of a funny Premiership experience these days there guys from the southern hemisphere are already playing we've seen in the last couple of seasons Brendan O'Connor came over here very quickly got it just came over very quickly got a bit how much of that would be akin said if it is these sort of names that that's the Tigers are looking at it's always a concern in that because we look at the amount of rugby that we play over here in the top of rugby that we play over here and you know we seen people have problems with the intensity of the collisions and particularly the amount of rugby that we play you know the level of competition that there is within that room you know you look at the Premiership and on their day you anybody can beat anybody else pretty much you know you'd maybe have one whipping boy but you know you probably won't have next season when London Irish come up so you look at high intensity high level games that you have to win week in week out it's not about development for the national side it's actually about winning the game for the Tigers or winning the game for whoever you're playing for so there's always a slight worry in terms of the ability of players to adapt to that level of intensity and ongoing intensity is the real issue you know I'm not suggesting for an instant that Super Rugby is less intense than in the Premiership but you probably haven't got quite as much of it and you haven't got everybody in the same boat playing each other we. Know we do play in that sense to yes I know we talk I mean the context of players going players coming and you know what what may be true and what may not be true also really that. If the target squad is as it is now. Would that be satisfactory or do you want to see chan