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Shakes the back to says more about you it doesn't pay up and we're joined by 2 historians Louise Roy and Sara Jackson allowed to buy 3 to talk about well 100 years since Votes for Women were as we said only some 100 years so all Yeah exactly it's a big complicated the $918.00 representation of the People Act gave the fight to a lot more men and $8000000.00 women that's women over 30 and with a small property qualification and fair this is incredibly confusing Sarah Jackson head the author of The East London Federation of suffragettes but which is brilliant and the founder of the 80 anticipated soon to be reality based and women's museums I watch that space it's really confusing Sara because people say women with a small property qualification but that's really odd isn't it the people who were included within that the people who were exploited and sofas tell us about sofas in the boats I think it was a pretty confusing piece relation at the time as well as now so it. It was people who owned property but also who rented property so sometimes it was people said the vote was equal to the cost of a sofa because if women rented flat that was furnished that they had furniture included as part of the flat then they were denied the vote where is some who rented an unfurnished land had their own furniture were allowed it but other groups there were women who had a university degree were got the vote but women who were working domestic service didn't so it's actually quite a confusing distinction and was it true that designed to keep the the working classes out essentially Well I think there was a lot of calm there was a lot of discussions about it within the movement and outside the movement apart that I think one of the concerns was that because so many men died in the 1st World War they didn't want the electorate to be swamped with women so I think that was one of their considerations as well was not having more women on the electoral register than men beat up on that day to terrify a terrifying terrifying is extraordinary though for me to think that my grandmother was alive in a time when she couldn't vote yet because she didn't own any property of us but she had a sofa to be honest. Yes And especially because a lot of those women had not only worked in the suffrage movement as foot soldiers of the movement but also fought in what would be in the factories making munitions during the war began I think we were talking about that earlier because it's quite interesting it's still quite often said as a sort of devaluation of the whole suffragette movement that women were not given votes because of suffrage they were given votes because. It was a reward for their work which I think I think is nonsense from my perspective but Sara you got a very good perspective on that but it's a strange reward when well that's what Yeah that's what I want to hear that that opinion I think is a bit of a strange way to reward people because most of the women who had contributed to the war effort in the factories kind of carrying shells making airplanes you know getting died yellow by t.n.t. The canary girls they. The ones who didn't get the vote because a lot of them were under 30 and so they didn't get it and they were often poor women so I just it's a funny way to say thank you I thought maybe he was going ot isn't it yes so we can discount that and we can say that it's definitely the suffragettes in the suffrage movement that contributed to that and in fact. We might have got the vote sooner had it not been for the war might be because the war delayed it really when the suffragettes met with Asquith in 1914 it was pretty much good to go well he said nice he said he said the kind of most sympathetic thing he said to that point where he said if the change must come we must face it boldly and it was hailed time as a kind of huge success for the movement and people thought votes are on their way then literally 2 months later 1st World War breaks out and everything's kind of shaken up again so there's an interesting what if question you know you know let's look at what we mean by suffragette even because the suffragettes in the suffrage is it's a hugely complicated Well for one thing we really have to can text allies and go back about 300 years because the 1st petition for women's votes was in the 1600s this is a really long term a long time coming thing the Chartist Chartist women want to the vote the 1st suffrage organization that I can find record of was in Sheffield radical Sheffield in about 851 but the 1st large national movement was not the Pankhurst swung the w.s.p. You know they were there suffragettes they were the ones who used all kinds of lively tactics like firebombing later on but the n u w s s The National Union of women suffrage societies are you making ones they'll be a test later and that was $897.00 and that's often written about as a more moderate sort of you know ladies for votes but quite sort of state sort of Mrs Banks in Mary Poppins you know doing a bit of polite suffrage or of an afternoon organization but actually there was a lot more to it that they were an awful lot of working class women and girls Lancashire mill workers and so on who were in that organization and who way before the 1900 square really actively agitating and pushing at factory gates for the vote when they said we mustn't forget this is a long list going movement and also very working class as well as just ladies No absolutely not votes for one they're not votes for ladies Yes exactly so. We have an awful lot of working class women involved with the Pankhurst later on the pie crust set up the w.s.p. That's the one with the lovely illustrations isn't that messy done by Sylvia Pankhurst the beautiful sort of Edwardian Art Nouveau posters and the purple white and green and that's w.s.p. You know enough yet some try and cycle and that's the Pankhurst now the prank her scarf there are a lot of them it's a bit like the Cardassian zx same surname lots of the mostly women all look at similar so it's hard to distinguish the Pankhurst So let's break this down Pankhurst wise the w.s.p. Are set up in 1903 right Emily in Pankhurst that's mummy Pankhurst mummy Spice she is married a hatter as you mentioned the male suffragettes his focus a very prominent Richard Pankhurst who she marries who's a barrister and a long time advocate of women's suffrage and they go on to have Christabel Pankhurst very active as well Sylvia Pankhurst a telepath we don't really talk about her because she went a little bit Nazi didn't. So so history tends to gloss over her a bit but they're all the whole family is incredibly involved in the w.s.p. And it's really quite a radical organization Emily was very influenced by her grandfather who was at the massacre of Peterloo huge working class protests where troops killed 15 people an intern Manchester Yeah that's right yes and Peter's fills in Manchester so it's quite so she starts off knowing it's going to be a bloody battle there's no illusions that you know we're going to ask politely for the vote over tea and sandwiches it's all going to be great she knows it has to be dramatic that have to be radical tactics used because women have been waiting for 300 years. You know what So she knows it's going to take something massive Sylvia Pankhurst for my money Sarah is the best to the best of all possible. She differently I mean Emilie her mother. And Christabel her sister start off seeming quite pro working class quite laborous quite socialist but they drift of it don't they politically that changes Sylvia stays very much understanding the importance of harnessing the power really of working class women not radicalizing them doesn't really radicalised but using this base of women who've been involved in factory actually tastes and strikes and here were just a very strong community in themselves and that's a rather sad moments a bit like the split in the Spice Girls really where because they're not interchangeable bunch the Pankhurst there is a huge political split within the Pankhurst family as well as the maid is that a person of that I guess the not the least Dr Low they not get all it's really both it's it's all of those things and Sylvia it's rather heartbreaking because her mom and sister end up kicking out the w s p you tell us a bit about that how that happens and when that happens well basically in 912 Sylvia goes back to East London trying to recruit working class women back into the w.s.p. You and is enormously successful the east end branches the w.s.p. Become popular they become really independent and they kind of get involved in lots of other causes so they're working with trade unionists they're working with socialists they're working with the men's suffrage movement and working with the Irish independence movement and this gets her in trouble with a 1000000 and Christabel panko so they summon her to Paris where they're based in January 1014 and seller in no uncertain terms that the East End branches have got to split off and become the Rome today I will go ration only in so far as you know the important thing here is women's votes let's concentrate on that not really no I don't think so because I think as today feminists should be concerned generally with social justice and we should be concerned with black lives matter and we should be concerned with socialism and other issues I think the same with true suffrage Well I think I think that the phrase they used Emelin in Christabel is that we want. Are women who walk in step like an army and it was a really effective tactic but as you say it meant it forced working class women to choose in a way between their class an agenda like you know there were other issues they care to buy in their community and what the East End suffragettes did and Sylvia did was kind of create a space for them to work for both at the same time because it's an artificial sun separation exactly to expect working class women to completely give up their own their class and just and of course there's a lot there's a huge Irish community in the stands at that point and so you know that's that's important to them as well also I wasn't the 1st woman elected House of Commons are Wish I think that's right Congress is going to launch a very. Fine brand of us yes and they're amazing women so Sylvia actually after the split which I think it's very sad you read her camps of it it's quite heartbreaking isn't it she loved him oh yeah no not ever out there she was never bitter about it and she is remarkable really and it did get more personal later on I think it starts off as a political difference and it gets really nasty doesn't but so Sylvia moves to the stand which she's wonderful and lives more or less like other Eastenders the women of the East and had said to her. That they would always look after her protector and we have to remember suffrage is a real war at this point it's a real nasty vicious violent street fight Sylvia said and as did other campaign is that every day they came back bruised and they just say this in a casual aside every single day there are campaigning they're getting attached they're getting hit they're getting beaten up stones thrown by police by the police as well as just by passing men who don't agree with their ideas suffragettes of being force fed in prison which is brutal I mean it's absolute torture it's not just this sandwich it's absolutely horrific it kills women does Al to me even at the time they in the Lancet there were medical professionals who signed a letter saying this is a form of torture we think this is abominable So it's not even historical perspective even at the time people were deeply shocked by the treatment has very high stakes they do think that somebody is going to die and they really do think someone's going to be killed by this and then that women who are forced by 230000 times in the health never recovered so Sylvia in and out of prison as are most if they key suffragettes does move to the stand and this is wonderful occasion she moves in with the shoemaker's called the pains they don't forward Rose Yes 20 old Ford Road and the police and the special counsel has surrounded the house they're watching every movement and these 10 women drive them off don't lie about them obviously all they are basically the police are kind of saying knocking on all the doors in the street saying well you know if we want to keep an eye on Sylvia if we can maybe rent one of your rooms or give you slip you a bit of money you know to keep an eye on her you know what would work for us without work for you and the whole street every door they knock on says no no she's also to basically you know exactly very poor women that money would've been in the right in the us very very healthy and some of them she has this extraordinary relationship with Eastenders because for our middle class lady with nice folks to go and live in the stand in those days which was such a wonderful community but such a poor deprived. Say was pretty unheard of yeah it was it was Stephanie surprising and she did live because the pains that she stayed with them Jesse Payne and has been would make is they only had 2 rooms and they gave Sylvia one of them to recover in when she been out of prison after being force fed and they all moved in actually together into the Women's Hall which was the East End suffragette h.q. When I opened in one where was that scene that was at 400 old Ford wrote on the right on the edge of Roman Road market and became a kind of radical social center for women basically and lots of different political causes met there and Sylvia lived up stairs with the pains and her friend Norris mines as well but they had to you know they had to do with the same conditions that it was cramped there was a lot of vermin you know rats running around they were they were so very much part that they're the same challenges as everyone else on the street in a way she's Wilkie like she talks isn't she Mary much and the pain that she said Stop that beat making didn't like to let her sleep at one point I was yes struck by that a conversation so small that I couldn't be hammering away at Boots one poor Sylvia reason has slate they set up the East London Federation of suffragettes which departs from the w.s.p. At this point I really love some of the things that they did can you talk to us a bit about some of the projects that the east and women of the time because they do all the normal you know the normal suffragette stuff so they do you know they kind of throwing stones and kind of getting chained up and going to prison and things but gradually they kind of move away from those individual militant actions toward something that's a lot more like kind of community organizing when the war breaks out there's a huge wave of unemployment here is the standard that was all the factories close and of course lots of men go off to the front so there's a huge crisis in our community and what the way they respond to that is through an amazing range of projects so they start giving out milk for families with small infants who don't have any income they open a series of cost price restaurants where people can come and get you know something to eat something nutritious and hot for a very small amount of money they open a factor. A co-operative toy factory which with a creche attached this is a $914.00 that's being incredibly heavy at a time the crush is so popular that they end up opening a nursery which they open in a former pub which had been called the gunmakers arms because it was next to him initials factory that is then renamed the mother's arms in a very symbolic gesture and they also I was still there are sadly not the only one of the buildings that they're all these projects operated out of that still there is a toy factory and so $45.00 Norman. That's still there the buildings that were there they got plans it has yes here that's excellent So after all this I mean Sylvia's just like a social worker she in the suffragettes the. Health. The Alice the l.f.s. Are really like social workers they're helping people and antiwar people start off anti war but people swing behind it as do the most of the suffragettes they actually start handing out white feathers don't they to conscience object it's a long way from where they've come but Sylvia sticks with the anti-war thing as it becomes increasingly unpopular and fight people who are not getting their military pensions the critical range of stuff that she's doing so calmly 918 when this 1st victory of the avalanche Anyway 1st 1st move to get women the fight happens Sylvia's not actually as excited and thrilled to see you would expect her to pay no no that's not right by this point is this is a year after the Russian Revolution Sylvia like many members the standards of projects were socialists and they found the Russian Revolution very exciting and she actually got to a point where she was kind of a revolutionary communist by 918 and so y