One local school has been given a grant to celebrate So what are we going to find out more so return to tradition and the turn of the plough I'm joining excited school children who are part of reviving this centuries old tradition intil the old saints now more for more later on and plans lunch for him as well the weather comes from Elizabeth Razzi nicely dried in the daylight hours with them spell the brightness and French and tending very wet and windy later on 3 the day all the details in 5 minutes were thank you. A 701 this is b.b.c. Radio Norfolk and your Monday morning news comes from Janet Harden senior members of the royal family are gathering at the Sandringham in West Norfolk today to discuss the future of roles for the Jew conduct as a Sussex Harry and Meghan want to step back from their duties and spend more time in North America the Prince of Wales the Duke of Cambridge and the Duke of Sussex will be at the meeting which will look at a range of options these people wait outside Sandringham say they're disappointed I think it's very very sad especially for the queen. I don't think it's any way for Harry and Meghan to treat their grandmother I think it's a shame I think Harry and make them would have been a lot better off being full members of the family rather than trying to do the room thing so I hope it's soon sorted out in the interest of everyone especially the queen. One of Britain's oldest department stores bills which has stores in Great Yarmouth and is hers warned that it could collapse is a difficult time for retailers as Devon I'm starts to close 900 stores a Mothercare shops stop trading today here's our business correspondent Rob Young wheels which has $22.00 branches across the country said it may have to appoint administrators the company is negotiating with landlords over rent and is talking to 2 potential buyers another retailer and the venture capital investor Beals has been around for almost 140 years but poorer than expected Christmas trading threatens its survival even if its immediate future can be assured store closures are have been ruled out with a risk to jobs the British Retail Consortium has said last year was the high streets worst on record a charity says putting disruptive schoolchildren in isolation is damaging their mental health the practice involves removing pupils from the classroom and placing them in booths where they can't see or speak to other pupils the Center for Mental Health says this can be traumatic for some children this mother's 2 children have been in isolation at one of Norfolk secondary schools and she wants parents involved more in the process I don't think place I mean isolation at Scole you actually have that process of discussing the bad behavior which is why it's important for parents to know about it to discuss and work through it and find a solution so they don't get back there again the north south m.p. Clive Lewis finds out today if he's still in the race to become Labor leader he has until this afternoon to get the backing needed to join the 4 other candidates who've already secured a place in the contest. Police are investigating a fire in Great Yarmouth overnight it broke out at a residential property on Mill Road although people needed help with smoke inhalation it's understood no one was hurt in the fire in the Philippines a volcano has sent fountains of lava into the sky at least 15000 people have fled the area south of Manila although some are refusing to leave their homes and farms our correspondent Howard Johnson is there black smoke or started billowing out of the volcano what's happening now is love light lava flow is happening at the moment it's a level 4 out of 5 the government here say that at level 4 the risk of a hazardous explosion could be within hours or days. Alyse you any An unborn student in King's Lynn has been presented with the Queen's gold medal for his studies on Minas Barcus came top in the a level results last year the King Edward the 7th the cademy he and his family met the Queen at Sandringham House yesterday a day he says he'll always remember it was very surreal and very. Had expected me Queen of England and it was just very interesting it's a very fun time all around so I'm going to cherish this moment insanely b.b.c. Radio news now the sport his journey lever thank you very much Dan it's knowledge city have signed her the Berlin attacking midfielder on Dre dude on a 6 month loan deal the 25 year old Daniel Fargas 1st signing of the January transfer window dinner has Duda has been kept 35 times by Slovakia Meanwhile Manchester City striker Sergio Aguero scored his 12th Premier League hat trick and also became the highest overseas goalscorer in the competitions history you're in City's 61 win Aston Villa yesterday a grow past year your memory moved on to 177 goals in yesterday's win Meanwhile Kingsley in town manager in Culver houses the club haven't received any inquiries about Adam Marriott reports over the weekend suggested clubs from the Football League were interested in the prolific striker Marriott has $25.00 league goals to his name already this season and finally Kate King's Lin's Jamie Chesney gets his single campaign up and running at the World Indoor Bowl championship this afternoon he takes on Scotland's Chris Caldwell at Potters and that begins at 2 pm That's all for now Chris Turner how much of a footballer Jamie Vardy of Leicester City is how much of a football here listen well listen to this. In Hello magazine posing with Rebecca Vadi his wife who's been in the news for various reasons so this year or last year they've had a new baby and Jamie Vardy has come up with that he's managed to boil fatherhood down to sounding like a football match. Ok I'm going to give you a quote from a footballer This is the footballer Jamie Valley talking about fatherhood and I think he's going to move to Harvard could just be talking about a 11 draw with Southampton and Premier League he says he's quoted in Hello magazine this local papers today he says Fox is extremely 33 said although Becky tells me I'm a typical man and don't show much emotion deep inside the moon with my kids. There's a very focused figure say Ok well you know I don't know I might not show it but they're deep inside I'm over the moon I told him maybe he's actually played it down because I didn't lose the Southampton Yeah they did He says I love having a big family it's matured me and kept me grounded by them and has it over the moving you or your father so that was it to Mr footballers like him and make everything sound like a football match. Do you see Radio Nowhere folks whether he's over the moon with them but you know he could've been worse I suppose couldn't it let's find out what the weather's going to be like for today and here is Elizabeth what Simi Good morning and you might all be over the me with today's weather I have to say although it's mostly mostly dry during the daylight hours and they leave a little bit of brightness and some sunshine around but then the winds us that to ramp up as we had 3 often you know it's a really quite tough day I think by the time we get in the evening but until then the wind slowly strengthen and maybe one of the showers runs the morning business that mostly dry a little bit of brightness and sunshine temperatures today 9 or 10 degrees Celsius that is what will happen if those winds really strengthening through the evening with the same outbreaks of rain pushing in from the west as was a very wet very windy through the evening rush hour gusts of around 40 to 45 miles an hour I suspect for much of the evening of the 1st half of it anyway so pushing its way eastwards and then the winds will lighten and that rain will gradually self as we head into tomorrow morning if not lows of around 4 to 6 degrees Celsius tomorrow it's windiest still of very unsettled day of weather but of early morning brightness around them breaks very nice the Off to need and along with those heavy downpours a pretty big. Last 3 weather 45 to 50 mile an hour gusts I think there's a Met up with weather warning in place of the strength of the winds tomorrow Wednesday quite a day and then by the time we get theirs they start again and it's wet and when the once more they are very unsettled wake it. Let's take a look at the case doeth for today say the wind south westerly 506 increasing 7 to the vague 9 for a time this the states light a moderate becoming moderate or rough later the weather showers rain for a time and the visibility will be moderate or good but occasionally poorly is better it's the knee b.b.c. Radio Nowhere thanks very much. Christiane I had breakfast spell it with recently with you write for the program well not for you say so much the center of the world today or the it will feel like it if you watch the news programs because the Sandringham summit the centenary showdown whatever you want to call it trying to thrash out the details of Prince Harry's and Megan's decision to try to step back from frontline role duties all happening in Sandringham world we're going to be there later on in the program and we'll find out what the people of Norfolk think about that I will tell you more about one of Britain's oldest department stores possibly collapsing Chris Gore and I have breakfast in. Welcome to a busy Monday morning here on b.b.c. Radio Norfolk get the latest on most Sandra showdown talks coming up we will be live with a reporter Joel Bennett in Sandringham a little bit later on it's the dominant story on the front page of a lot of the papers today and he's happening right here in Norfolk but another thing we're looking at today is whether a school pupil should ever be removed from the classroom and put into isolation no matter how disruptive they are the charity at the Center for Mental Health says No In fact they believe putting children into isolation is damaging their mental health and they think it could in turn lead to even more challenging behavior his Auntie Bell from the charity who we spoke to earlier although it might manage the time maybe necessary for safety some instances it can actually kind of exacerbate the problem longer and so you end up with Mall. Just behavior kind of decorative cycle if you like we need to think about how we support schools to become more supportive of children's behavior and not just clicking off in schools to be different so let's look at this from the point of view of a child who has been placed in in isolation our reporter Andrew Turner has been speaking to the parents of 2 children who've experienced it and they want to remain anonymous because they're worried about the ramifications for their children but listen told me that sometimes I think you need to for find out the values of what has gone on before they're actually put into these isolation rooms because it is an Oist situation that the teachers are always right in always a situation at the child's always right I think they can be a bit mixed feelings and bit better understanding if there is discussed between the parents 1st I mention it's not supposed to be a pleasant experience being isolation is after all some kind of punishment Absolutely I mean it is some kind of punishment I do believe there should be aspects like something like this in school whether it's the right way about it or not I don't know because I hear several stories about these things in isolation freedoms children who speak. Sometimes it's the facts that they kind of cut cut come across that that they could sit in there and they don't really do much they don't actually do any lessons as such which I mean one of the main things or at school for is to. Do the lessons and learn and if they're in isolation and not learning from that then it's a bit pointless how many times would you say you children have been into isolation that's why maybe 3 times and did you see where the school had come from by placing them into isolation for a spell. Obviously if they've done something that warrants a punishment then yes there is that the right type of punishment excluding them from the rest of their Pais teaches retain general school life and this idea that it could affect their mental health that actually isolation perpetuates more bad behavior is that something that you would agree with with your children's experience. No not really it just depends how it's dealt with. And then between him and Skolem find in the balance of discussing it with him and talking at 3 that I think place I mean isolation at school you actually have that process of discussing the bad behavior who it is why it's important for parents to know about it to discuss and work through it and find a solution so they don't get back there again and that's exactly what a children's mental health charity has suggested that parents should be more involved in finding the solution so you don't repeatedly get into isolation absolutely are completely greater than a main. At the end of the day you are parents they are your children you want to bring up the right why not the wrong way so if you want to give them the best but it depends what's happening in these isolation rooms if they're not learning from it they're not going to learn to become better and go for doing their education if they go into these isolation rooms and there's nothing for me to do and I just sit there for the die then what would you want to do when you're 131415 you misbehave more so you can just sit in there and they were absolutely nothing rather than or so have you noticed anything like that because I magine. Your children aren't the only ones or school who are getting put into isolation there must be children who have different behaviors as a result of going into isolation yeah there's different things that go on I'm going to speak to several parents innocent silly things I mean. Things that be dealt with in the classroom or of them that strains Weisel ation take them out of their environment because when you take someone out their environment and put their kind of seen as being a bit different Wherever not it's from other people's or wherever it's from teachers but if they keep end up nice relation I kind of get bit of a stigma and do you think the school is a bit too trigger happy with isolation of the 1st response rather than actually the last resort yes absolutely absolutely believe I mean when I was at school. The teachers dealt with things in class more it was very much a last resort to be sent to the head teachers and then. And get your parents involved these days it just seems to be very very quick I think it's also used for the wrong reasons I know there's a lot of schools that do it for silly reasons like wearing jewelry and incorrect uniform and nail varnish and whatever if if you're not dressed appropriately they're not the rose but it doesn't automatically mean you don't have a right to learn do you agree with what you've just heard our schools are not at least as too quick to put children who are disruptive or breaking the rules or whatever way into isolation should we be worried about the longer term effects that has and maybe they come back into the classroom and are more disruptive as a result of what's happened to them but on the other side of the coin we've already heard from a teacher this morning is going touch with a program saying last but all this time in a class of 27 year one children and so on the behavior is appalling the only way that we can deal with it at the time is to remove the the worst culprits that there's not really a more effective way of doing it what do you think we're going to be talking to the chief executive of an academy trust in Norfolk who believes that in some cases. Isolation can be used in a positive way our schools in Norfolk too quick to isolate a disruptive people or actually is it the only way of dealing with them without harming the education of the other children in the class what you think 103897321 that's the phone number you can send me a text 813 double 3 Start message with the word Norfolk and it will continue to talk about this through the program this morning here on b.b.c. Radio Norfolk It's now 716. 0 as preschool on b.b.c. Radio Norfolk the headline to charity says putting disruptive school children in isolation is damaging their mental health and candidates to become the next leader of the Labor Party have until 230 this afternoon to win enough support to stay in the contest in sport city have Sunday attacking midfielder Andre dude from her to Berlin on a 6 month loan deal brought with sunny spells the chance of a few showers today turning cloudy of this afternoon with highs of 10 Celsius 50 Fahrenheit coming up at the Queen is holding talks at Sandringham later today in an attempt to map out a future path for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex following their announcement that they want to step back a senior royals will who are people waiting outside surrounding him yesterday make of all this after he for the care of his best travelling. Is Kaylee thank you very much you are looking around this morning at the moment quite slow towards the thick on the roundabout trying to get towards knowledge or to use your delay starting to form a 47 from day one towards knowledge that's heading towards the having a man to show roundabout was a fairly busy as well if you're heading towards King then a 17 starting to slow towards pullover on the whole things in the sense is not looking too bad at the moment if you can safely updates me there the number to call 803 aids 97321. On b.b.c. Radio Norfolk hire fancy t o d n all the noise the other day Emily's in later if you miss t.v. Over. Weekend Yeah Bill don't you when you think about that new song I've been playing. So I'm finding out all about the latest gadgets in a bit. Oh I see God in the concert later they go one cup it's a c n n do you break with Chrissy Jackson every weekday morning from 10 on b.b.c. Radio No 5 you're part of. And Chris is back today from 10 including the Norfolk nor use it has been going since the 23rd of October the current no noise would you believe if you think you know the answer to me and each weekday morning for details on how to enter you can see all the guesses so far on our website b.b.c. Dot co dot u.k. Slash radio Norfolk I think I'm allowed to give when a close am I so I won't know I'm tempted by one but it's a 23rd of October it's been going since Incredibles but maybe today today I don't know. If you think you can put everyone out of there me 3 and solve the North noise competition Sundram summit sounding showdown it depends how tabloid you want to be about it but senior members of the royal family will gather at Sandringham today the Scots future roles for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex hereon make it announced last week they want to step back from their duties and spend more time in North America so we know that Prince Charles Prince William and Prince Harry will attend the meeting which will examine a range of options and Megan is expected to chip in by phone from Canada to we've been speaking to people who were waiting to see the Queen outside the church at Sandringham yesterday our reporter Jill Bennett has been asking them how they feel about the whole affair I think it's very very sad especially for the queen. I don't think it's any way for Harry American to treat their grandmother. In a normal family let alone a royal family so I feel desperately sorry for her and the whole family I think it's. The shame I think Harry and make him would have been a lot better off being full members of the royal family rather than trying to do the wrong thing so I had peace soon sorted out in the interest of everyone especially the queen who's had quite enough to put out maybe just lately and we're all think she is wonderful and just wonderful child. Every right to follow dreams have always been born to r