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Or you can get in touch with us on social media using at b.b.c. 5 Live now basically that's taken us all the way through the whole program just getting through that fact that part of it there is pretty much half hour program fantasy a very good morning to you Howie morning and well thank you it's very good to be talking to you this I was looking at some of the things that you've you've got to talk about tonight that's quite a lot of hardware in there and there's the I with a not the sort of like the interesting things like new phones being released or new huge bits of technology this is about it's a lot about the things that are in sa need Yes So for example. We heard about the fact that the processes that are in almost every computer that we use be a desktop laptop tablet or smartphone are potentially affected by 2 security flaws in the actual chips one is called Specter and the other one is called meltdown and Intel particularly badly here in the Intel processors or victims of both of those. A.m.d. An arm and some of the other approaches the manufacturer slightly less so I would say it's still an evolving picture but but it is interesting because these what they found out is a technique that is being used in making processes faster for the last 20 years has got a serious security flaw and it is possible to write software that takes advantage of that. I guess one would call it a design flaw it's not a it's not a bug in the traditional sense of being in software it's possible to get malware onto a computer that can actually just if it's cleverly written just bleed out the information that goes through the process and everything in an encrypted form so you know passwords keys security keys all that sort of thing so this fund ability Normally you hear about vulnerabilities you know from Windows or macro s. Or whatever and after a short while a patch is producer to say a piece of software that corrects the software error the difference here is that the error is in the hardware it's the way the hardware works and therefore although the software patches I haven't are being produced to to mitigate this risk it can only ever mitigate it will never go away and for the life of that computer and you can't even go out and buy a computer and be quite confident that it's not in that one it will probably be even usually announce chips for the next year or 2 at least given what the development cycle of processes is and and also how when they come to fix it how will they fix it without making computers a lot slower because it was a speeding up function that they they took advantage of it's basically was a predictive functions one things that processes do is in their spare time they try and guess what you might want what the program might want to know or do next and then it does it now often it's right in which case that's an official thing to do because it's all you know that result is then waiting but sometimes it has to throw that result why because that you know it predicted the program was going to turn right turn left as it were and therefore that's not needed and so this predictive capability was being used because when the processor throws it away it was straying away in an unsecured area and and very hard. To secure that sort of thrown away information so it is possible to write software that would cause all sorts of data to be passed through the process as a prediction and then thrown away and them read by by the malware says so if you take away that ability because that's where the the the floor is you know. Why do we have to live with slower computers than we thought we were going to yeah I mean depending on what you're doing so if you're doing gaming where the majority of the the work is done by you know graphics processors and not. Input Output pace you know terms of bringing in data putting back out again processing data then that's less affected If however you're running something that sort of database related then that's that could be you know slowed down by 30 percent by disabling that feature. And the problem with that is although you say oh it's where I don't run databases Well the Internet is pretty much a database so all all the servers you know all these huge server farms that you know take up the size of several football pitches each all with these rope or row of computer that serve up web pages they're all potentially hit and particularly because of the way that service work where often you get more than one website sitting on a particular server or cluster of service and what that means is that it's possible for people to create even Web sites to breach server farms and get into everything else that's connected to that and so that's that's a really big problem and although although it's not just the intel that's hit by that because as a a.m.d. Is hit by that and used my thing well you know all of a empty computer about alm he said by that no arm you may not know the name or I know you know the name but a list of mine on more than one. That is used that technology is used in the vast majority of tablets and smartphones including Apple stuff so you say I work no hold on Apple produce apple chips well they do but they do it using license license technology from the underlying technology of Apple so you know 81810 x. And all those sorts of processes in its i Pads and i Phones is out some of these which by the way was a British company and so very recently it's a great shame that's one of the crown jewels that we lost so this is a problem in terms of how do we make ourselves secure now. What what do we do about this going forward because it's not even the easy thing for them to fix so it means that we're going to have this sort of vulnerability in addition to all the software ones that will still be coming up we're going to have this underlying weakness and. This is been going on for 20 years. So one has to say you know although we don't have any evidence that anyone has been utilizing it you know frankly if anyone used has been utilizing it's probably you know the CIA or someone like the suspect to say they're you know well yes because well they have form on this don't they because that there were other security weaknesses vulnerabilities that when they came to the attention of the CIA instead of bringing it to the manufacturers attention and so they could fix it they decided to keep in quotes keep it secret and developed a talkative software tools to to to allow them to do so allow them to take advantage of the vulnerability and use that to spy upon others now you could say well that's well and good that's what we you know that's what we want the CIA to be doing. And. The problem with that is that they've shown that it's they were unable to keep those cyber weapons under wraps which is a bit like having a nuclear arsenal but not being. Able to stop your enemies from taking control of it and in fact if you think back to the want to cry outbreak which was at ransom where outbreak which we're told was an attack by North Korea it's the one that hit the n.h.s. And many other organizations across the world that although that may have come the attack may have come from North Korea it was made using tools stolen from the CIA. So it's kind of that and there in lies a problem so you've got these vulnerabilities. The industry has been working. Secretly you know Intel and others have been sharing what they know with software manufacturers and the idea was for them to be able to patch the problem to fix a problem in software or at least mitigate it in software before any any of us got to know about it unfortunately for them you know others found the vulnerability and published before they had finished patching it so there's still the still the loss of the patches of going in and some of those patches Intel released a patch at very high Ridley and then found that I actually saw it myself really surprised me how did the unit found that on Mt chips it calls them to crash which was and helps us a prop they probably withdrew the patch so it's all a big mess at the moment and this is in a sense you know you know the expression we're all in it together with this time we really are all in it together because no one's going to be really truly protected from this which makes us perhaps think about the fact that you know we should always think about what we store in computers in particular what we store knowing which is just another way of storing it on someone else's computers on the server farm in America you know what because anything that we commit to a computer is not completely safe never was but this is this is this brings into focus the fact that really it isn't completely safe and you should think very carefully about what you're prepared to put online I did also think just as an adult thought that although other processes are affected the Intel ones are arguably more effective because they're susceptible to both Specter and meltdown which are sort of. Variants that say. In the past I would have said well yeah but it's still better to stick with Intel chips because they're clearly the best processor chips but actually in the last year or year and a half a.m.t. Have made something of a comeback I mean up until then for the 1015 years before that the stock advice was by Intel you know the a.m.t. Chips run Holt's they they're not as powerful they're not as well designed but with the launch of a.m.d. Is rise and chips are wise that he n. That started to change Intel was found to be somewhat resting on its laurels because. It got caught out because as the world moved away from desktop and even that P.C.'s P.C.'s towards. Mobile devices such as tablets and smartphones it was it was left with processes that were inappropriate they were far too high energy usage for those sorts of devices that were built for desktops and so most of the last few years Intel's been concentrating on making their chips faster and faster which was always that way but rather trying to make them more energy efficient so much so that Moore's Law This idea that every 18 months the computer power of walk systems doubles Moore's Law came under threat and and so much so that they took their eye off the ball in my view an a.m.d. Of sorts knock on them up on them with these rising chips and. On there were viable alternative and given the combination spectrum meltdown may actually be a better choice in terms of again 20 just to mitigate the risk we're just going to jump and we're going to go back to the tennis. Set point for Nicholas bass naturally 54030 do it on his back and cross as a slice and it's long from car lead and colored men the British number 2 he's going to reach the round of 16 the straight and open he's going to have to do it the hard way in searing heat because bass nationally leads my $0.02 to want to know will have to complete just his 3rd career at 5 set match when all of that Korea the 1st one coming early this week as the 11 seats are all to do the car lead meant he trails that Nicklaus by 2 sets to one more a bit later on let's go to the phone lines because George in Devon give me a ring George very good morning to you good morning to you how are you oh I'm Ok I'm. Very I'm blind and I can use my mobile phone any more and I just need them out because I think you are given 5 attempts to get through to you are my hand sat in my house. But the technology is there on towed by the actual problem and I went to a meeting recently. Technology there but nobody's doing about it but I can make a move up on the prime table very easily so why don't I. Hello George good morning I'm sorry to hear you know you having problems between getting through. Their rom Obama phones which all designed for use point point people love door open Mildmay Ok so do you have use a small phone was a no I don't know which one it is but it was recommended by action and is easy to use but I can dial on it because I can see you know if you don't need a screen we don't need e-mail we don't need to. Text messages because we can't see the screen anyway favor moved all of I haven't replaced it with something which is voice recognition. The idea is that you can pick give 1st 2 buttons and say taxi or say saying is British So say a surgery and he will die Rick. When you remove the screen all the other rubbish and that one is all rubbish for a period of vision but it's ready for people who've come to see you know if they remove all of my back it opens up a big space in the back of a phone to put other things in for some people are blind you know so I heard recently that time. $300000000.00 units if they were made would be snapped up maybe early because the world wide. They got no records of any people who are blind in China and those millions