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BBC Radio Scotland FM BBC Radio Scotland FM February 24, 2019 080000

Last night he spoke of the need for on a study in confronting the trunk says a cardinal from Germany said the rights of victims had been chump old under food when files on abuse were deliberately destroyed a 14 year old from Livingston has pitted her way to the title victory to stance or Elie fagots and won the prime time B.B.C. Show taking home 50000 planes and a chance to perform on Strictly Come Dancing the final decision was made by a public vote and after finding out she'd won Elie gave this reaction to who still he said Dickson. Was. Was was an experience of my life and I didn't have to know the evidence of place of thank you and thank you so much to. The news John Barnes is now here with the sport Good morning thank you Amanda Scotland head coach Stringer turns and says the players failed to deliver the performance in a blue jersey should demand an end disappointing 6 nations lost to France the scores were beaten 2710 policy extending the 20 year wait for a victory on French soil there's no just one win from the much used in the Championship Meanwhile we would beat England 2113 Carter which means that Warren Gatland side of the only team left who can win the Grand Slam still with rugby in Edinburgh through a a 14 point halftime lead to lose 917 to count of losing money few Richard Cole who saw his 1st defeat at home since April last year and football there are 2 important matches in the Premiership so afternoon 1st up Hamilton Accies host Rangers and their bid for survival while Steven Gerrard side will be willing to put pressure on leaders Celtic who are home to mother will leave her in the afternoon live coverage of both games and sports home from the and the Aberdeen manager Democrats' hopes that captain Graeme Shinnie strong relationship with himself and the dawn support will convince him to sign a new contract with the club on his we're well missed and fog will lift leaving a dry day with some sunshine the best of the sun will be in the north and northeast a little less mild the nascent days with highs have rained $11.00 to $13.00 degrees Celsius later today though some rain will arrive into the north. And that's B.B.C. Radio Scotland news thanks among the B.B.C. Scotland launches the c evening the new dedicated channel 4 Scotland created with funding allocated as part of the 2017 B.B.C. Charter settlement and has a mission to provide programmes made in Scotland for Scotland looks at home it all came to be pretty well being. To me. Very kindly from back then right. August 1957 and the B.B.C.'s far Scottish T.V. Studio opens and Glasgow's former Black Cat sentiment back then Scottish opt outs from the London based network were rare more than 60 years later not that much has changed until no. The T.V. . Channel I'm allowed to still be a good B.B.C. Scotland channel because the. Bottle was a chat about what you see you have to believe B.B.C. Scotland tonight at 7 o'clock B.B.C. Scotland's new dedicated channel launches offering an additional 900 hours of Scottish Television every year that will include farce runs of the new series of still game all the programs that were previously on B.B.C. 2 Scotland including the Beech Grove garden and sport scene and you nightly hour long news programme integrating international U.K. And Scottish news plus a whole new raft of programs designed to better reflect modern Scotland's. PROFESSOR NEIL Blaine of Stirling University has followed the debate over Scottish broadcasting for decades and was involved in the aftermath of the Scottish broadcasting commission's report which originally called for such a dedicated channel and he's annoyed Dodes that the B.B.C. Scotland channel is a big deal up until now Scotland has had with one exception which is a gullet broadcaster October outcasting wishes to say we get the network so then we get some of our own content whereas comparable countries like Ireland and in fact many parts of Europe which are comparable to Scotland will have standalone channels we've still until know been pretty much the model for broadcasting T.V. Broadcast to get any rate which we've had since the late 1950 S. So this has to be very welcome but recent attempts to launch new channels in Scotland haven't exactly been successful. Could say fine you can be funny I was stuck until I got final last year S.T.V. 2nd channel closed down after its flagship programs fail to attract more than a couple of 1000 viewers each. At last S Evening News tonight she is here for the 1st time 2 years get Scottish leaking and international news in one foreground specially produced for Scotland's it's pulled it sound vicious It's even as much heralded as May news program on occasion registered 0 viewers however to be fair S.T.V. 2 was run on a shoestring the B.B.C.'s new channel by comparison will have a programme budget 15 times the size of the even that is still a fraction of what spends on the main television channel in the Republic of Ireland's a country not the similar in size to Scotland's Professor Neil Blaine again so one of 2 questions arise one is will the expectations be realistic and who know. As they often aren't about these things it would be nice if there were I think also depends ho the budget is purchase there's obviously a lot of money going on news broadcasts no understand why but we wouldn't want to be the expense of other forms of broadcasting which we know that B.B.C. Scotland is very good at not least factual and of dilute to be some quite interesting documentaries and factual programmes lined up so I think perhaps there's a question of how this is spent and this is an initial budget I would like to think I mean if the station can find an identity for self if you look across Ireland you'll find out for example R.T.E. Will have quite a strong identity as distinct from its British competitors in the minds of Irish listeners and viewers if the new B.P. Scotland can establish something like that find an audience then I suppose the question of budget is something which can be argued well into the future budget so one thing attracting an audience is another particularly when the B.B.C. Scotland channel isn't exactly at the top all the elegant programme guides indeed the B.B.C. Itself predicts is new channel will attract just one or 2 percent of T.V. Viewing compare that to B.B.C. One which currently accounts for 22 percent but B.B.C. Scotland's head of commissioning Steve Carson told me he's not worried I think off that the public interest test to look at the projected audience share and reach which all come on Say I decided that there was public value in it I mean bear in mind the channel is going to be the home of 112 hours of new programming and for audiences in Scotland every year that's the public value what I'm getting too technical about it you know 2 percent share performance is roughly what people see forward at on you know it's a very valid public service. And actual fi we're actually looking at rates which is to make sure as many people in Scotland consumers across the week as possible and I think looking at rates from an audience share means that you can do things that you know you might not get hundreds of thousands of people watching for. Watching it's valid and interesting to them and I think the other thing is that the channel content sits on the channel it also sets and i Player it also sits on social so the many ways people can share more content are programming not just on live linear T.V. But focus on online content is undoubtedly the key to the B.B.C.'s future as audiences begin to move away from linear television and embrace streaming services like Netflix Amazon Prime Of course the B.B.C. I Player So while many welcome the B.B.C.'s investments in more Scottish programming it might not be that long before we look back on the launch of the B.B.C. Scotland channel as a rather quaint somewhat old fashioned idea Koreans do it there so what are the new channels aims and ambitions and most importantly what will it be offering you the viewers to know the McKinnon is director of B.B.C. Scotland I'm very excited about this new channel which he launches this evening it gives us for the 1st time a platform on which to air content that we've never had or 2 been able to hear I think it's given us an opportunity to showcase new talent but also it's a home for established and existing turnt it's also it will be the home for a lot of of new content in an E.T.S. As I said which we've not really that been able to play very much so they'll be entertainment we will have some drama there will be comedy there will be high in fact true there will be factual entertainment and of course there will be a brand new news program at the heart of change will break up seems to be 50 percent repeats and 50 percent new commissions are you satisfied with that balance Well I think it's a fair enough balance I think 900 hours of new content still considerable in terms of what we'll be able to offer audiences afresh but it also gave us the opportunity to delve into our archives I think we have a very rich archive and not just within B.B.C. Scotland but across the. For the B.B.C. And also a lower set to acquire programs from other organizations but I'm not sure if you've if you've noticed but there's been a little bit of a buzz around the fact that we're going to be rerunning Tutti Frutti at some point in the future so that's I think that it's some cause for celebration around some of the giving audiences another chance to watch them loved content as well as perhaps you know good just giving them the opportunity to see again somewhat or quite recently but you're projecting a one to 2 percent audience share on a budget of 32000000 that's hardly a bishop's I'm certainly not fixated on a particular organ segment at this stage I think it would be folly to try too hard to anticipate kind of numbers I low or high so what we're looking to achieve is success over time and a guests audience appreciation in Scotland and in you know and I think our range of measures the channel will obviously it is a linear channel I'll be launching with a neck and digital space but you know it will it will live on other platforms as well and as we have more detail why decide to go linear at this particular time if there is an interest within the B.B.C. And a young audience they're not watching television so why go why go linear with all that money when you did have other options of spending 32000000 pounds a year in Scotland I'm no didn't see it's true to say that young people aren't watching linear television they're actually are watching on your television they're just consuming it in very different ways and I think that even you know we've been predicting the demise of radio and television for a lot of linear radio and television for a long time and they're still alive and well but I think what is absolutely true and and it's true of not just young people but older people to that we're consuming accountant in very different ways in different forms on demand catch up and this channel will be available in all these forms why stitches of course that is a linear channel. I'm absolutely confident that with his expression on lots of other different platforms that we will be able to share that content is going and the news is a very significant part of this offering How do you make that more relevant how do you offer it up multi platforms to make it relevant to the widest possible audience so the news or will sit at the moment at 9 o'clock in the shade of course that will be available to people to to view live or indeed to view them at their leisure or whenever obviously our news teams in beauty Scotland work already in a very integrated way and so much of the content that will sit there will hopefully have a life elsewhere equally I think what often is generated as perhaps a story on Good Morning Scotland will work its way into the channel so it is very much about how we capitalize on everything that we have here and indeed a all of the kind of great skill and talent and her we make that work as hard as possible in order to save audiences with as comprehensive a news offering as we possibly can on every platform so what would success look like to you on this new channel so success would be for me the fact that audiences in Scotland really appreciate and love what we do but we will always have a detractors and rightly so we have people who criticise us but all are evidence at the moment all the research that we carry at ourselves and indeed that other organizations carry out when looking at what the B.B.C. Provides audiences do actually demonstrate what I believe to be a very healthy picture of a turnaround because recent researchers search couple of years ago showed that Scotland has the lowest appreciation of all the coverage of the B.B.C. In the U.K. In terms of audience I think you might be mixing up your perceptions of the B.B.C. In Scotland or isn't current consume more television and than other any other audience. But the satisfaction level is less yes I think that's exactly right but I think if you look at news alone I mean some of the most recent studies seem. Trust studies in $21516.00 and very recently just last September Russia Institute in Oxford University These are all very recent days which looked particularly at news actually and the B.B.C. Still consistently to be using Scotland scores very highly relative to other providers of news and current fears can I say in about comments you made to this programme when you were made director that you accepted in the environment post independence referendum the B.B.C. Had made mistakes and had to build bridges into the pro indie community and that you personally would take a very strong lead in that what has happened there and what's been achieved there I'm not sure that these with my exact words about but what I have said and what I consistently do say is that where we need to rebuild trust and we should make every effort to do so I believe that we have gone some distance in that regard I think there are those who will always take issue with US does I mean to say that I will ever stop trying to win them back won't because I don't think that's a position that any of us can occupy in the B.B.C. We must try with every member of her audience that said I do think that we have to look at you know the breadth of what we offer to audiences across the B.B.C. I was just looking at the audience figures for 2nd which is the new season shed and it's going to transfer to 35 percent share in Scotland is massive What we do on you know for children I got a beautiful letter yesterday passed on to me by somebody in the social from a head teacher of a school in Scotland basically thanking us for some of the work that that team does on social media targeting in particular younger audiences because she feels it's one of the few resources that she has to draw on which really deals with issues that affect young people's good news that ability was a big issue in all of this and do you have any evidence that you've been able to turn around significant numbers of people to say the B.B.C. Is not biased the B.B.C. Has a very. It's a good cause that worked I mean I firmly believe that the B.B.C. Is not biased that there is no agenda I think the evidence the research that I've just identified for you it was searched by the organizations as I said from often through to Oxford University through to B.B.C. Trust since 2014 and I think the numbers and the scores that were that were being given by audiences in Scotland and beyond Scotland in terms of the trust that they have in our News and Current Affairs offering remain very high indeed and I have to hold on to that let me ask you then about an incident recently on Question Time where the accusation was that the audience was heavily stacked $8.00 to $1.00 against pro independence members of the audience that someone called Billy Mitchell had appeared multiple times on that program and was allowed to make comments without any interruption and then the actual response of the culture secretary Fiona Hyslop of behalf of the government was edited and that this shows B.B.C. Bias I mean if you're trying to convince people there's no B.B.C. Buys How helpful is it is a self-inflicted wound when these things happen. I think what we have said is that we will constantly review process is and I do believe that we have a pretty robust processes in place in terms of ensuring that we have balance across audiences for programs such as question time I'm really confident that these processes are good occasionally will things slip through the cracks that can happen that is how in this attack that is one program and I think you know we're casting forward now to a new program called a debate night we're very confident and I've just been reading just before coming on a near the extent to which our audience teams are going to have you know amassing as as much interest in this program as possible from all sectors of Scottish society and I'm very confident that that's what we'll end up to to be clear you think mistakes were made in this question I'm not saying that mistakes were made and have to satisfy yourself as to where they were not and if they have been held up. And I've said that consistently you know when. Ever we make a mistake and we will make mistakes and we do I do certainly absolutely we put our hands up and we say we're sorry we got it wrong my hope for this program it is that it is healthy respectful debate and and that's kind of to be true that I quite like to watch myself but it's not going to move around the country as Question Time does why was that decision made that that's not quite true the moment what we're looking at is a series of $24.00 programs 18 of which will be made from a base in Edinburgh and the other will travel around the country Ideally we would like to travel and more than that and if we can we will but we just have to make the money work. Let me ask you about they're making the money we're across the output in Scotland you had ambitions for another radio station we have you got to with that so it's hard to take a bit of a backseat because obviously this has had to be the priority but that remains an ambition and I do think that what we will see over this coming year and hopefully in years to come is not just the potential but the realisation of our ability to produce much more content so what can we do then in terms of surfacing that content on other platforms and are there ways that we can actually deliver that 2nd radio station in a way that is affordable and I'm confident that that will happen over time at some point you don't have a timescale for it I don't attack you for it in the interview when you were made direct to your intention was that Scott got a better share and shake out of the license fee do you think the new channel is a measure of Scotland be given more autonomy something that you would welcome. Yes I do and since that interview almost 2 years ago to the day we had that announcement from the director general that this new investment was going to happen so that has meant that there's been injection of an additional 20000000 pounds into Scottish content for audiences in Scotland on this new channel but over an above that there also was if you remember an ambition to inject a further 20000000 pounds of network television programming and that has also I'm pleased to see happen so that figure in terms of license fees spent in Scotland is absolutely on the up and you comforted that the new news channel will get all the access it needs to the network correspondents and that the Scottish output will be taken seriously when those bids go in yes I am and that's certainly been the experience that we've had in terms of the piloting that we've been doing since the end of the years and I'm really confident that that

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