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And the weather overnight England or Wales rather cool and dry night but a few shows could move in from the west later Monday cloudy and wet across the northern half of the U.K. Scotland Northern Ireland and northwest England will see showers and rain the south a for not over 5 Live annoying Dawson ad a boy of the from Monday morning U.S. Politics phone in this one he would like to invite you to contribute with any questions you have a comment so indeed conclusions that you have a question to you is how has Donald Trump changed politics how has it changed politics has he changed your view of fallen 6 perhaps more pertinently 080-859-0969 extension 3 if you want to join in this conversation it's 080-859-0969 extension 32 talk to me and our experts in the United States directly you can of course text me on 85058 e-mail up all night at B.B.C. . That salient question once again we will have an impact over here in this difficult quite defining week for us in politics how has Trump Donald shot the President the United States changed politics and how has he change your view of politics so with us this morning is ever is a case where we do our U.S. Politics slaughter we've got Mark Riley the broadcaster and political critic from over the side Good morning Mark. If you want to go can I say we are our solution or it was a draw just leave the tribalism out of this one because Robert A George who is our other guest probably has got a clue who asked a lot have you Robert Oh I I do I don't know I don't follow I don't follow as much as brother Riley does but yes I know who Arsenal is in fact I was. 7 of my 1st 8 years on earth were were in that were in the U.K. And in Essex County so I think I have a little bit of a familiarity. With the beautiful sort so you will know who taught Nima I do know who Tottenham is yes exactly. I mean you're listeners your listeners can't quite obviously wouldn't know this because we're on the we're on the radio here but you are actually there actually listening. To African Americans who have those British names that you're fine you know and Mark Riley and Robert George so. Very very good point but it still doesn't be the guy that I was at school with. African heritage Tuesday was Angus MCLEOD So. I think yeah yeah I think he wins out there and then of course my good friend in New York of African heritage is Willie White but we won't go there to. Work won't come let's get back onto the politics keep your mind on the of the mission and gentleman. So the question for US politics followed in this wording is how has Donald Trump the president the United States changed politics and how's he changed your view of politics I'll start with you Robert. Well as more may know my my course of politics. For the last 20 or 25 years. Then on the right side I am a registered Republican overhears of my views are somewhat somewhat conservative and and Donald Trump has sort of kind of blown that whole idea out of the water what we have considered to be Republican policies conservative. Viewpoints for the last 2025 years things of things like free trade believe in limited government government you know trying to lower debt deficit and so forth Trump has completely blown has completely blown that up and. Created major divisions within within the right side of the within the right side of the political spectrum even though. His his support amongst those who purely identify themselves as Republican with without regard to specific idiology is within the is in the ninety's you know he said he said he is as popular if not possibly even more popular than George W. Bush was at the height of post post 9 or you know post 911 attacks so it's a very it's a very very different kind of an error in terms of where the Republican with the Republican Party is and I think he's also had a certain kind of an influence is a man had a major influence on that on the Democratic side as well you've got. Divisions that there are between those who feel they want it they should be more radical in terms of impeaching in terms of impeaching him and then those who feel that it's better to be more cautious to just fight him on policy and try and ignore all the insanity of his tweets and other things and so this he is it is a disrupter he's the he's the great just really they called Reagan the great communicator Donna compas a great disrupter that would be nothing new in bonuses. In a way but what you say about his and the way that he's redefined the Republican Party or at least dismissed it is an extent are you essentially saying he is more popular than the party he is broken down the party domination of politics Oh that's that's an interesting that is getting an interesting way of. Putting it and that you that may actually be a very good way of putting it. The the Republican Party that we've come to know. The say the last 40 years you know the sort of the post the post Reagan era is is is no more really this is this is the this is the Donald Trump this is the Donald Trump party and it has it has very much a it's populist it is it is needed rest some would say some would call some would call it racist and bigoted and in things like things like the the economic the economic. Bastion that it is that it had it it held onto it for the last 3540 years basically come by the ways and of course I imagine the brother Mark brother Riley's trumpeted the Biju tell me how do you think Donald Trump has changed politics. Well I got to be honest with you I never thought I would say that somebody cheapened politics because politics is cheap anyway. And I have to say Trump if anything has cheapened politics he's cheap in the political process. He goes from one extreme to another seemingly virtually overnight on China and many other different issues where he stakes out of position doubles down on the position and then backs off the position it's sort of it's an amazing thing to say. You know as somebody who's worked and Robert knows this is somebody whose were covering politics for a good while I've really never seen anything like this before it's amazing to me that the man gets away with what he gets away with. Among his base you know I'm sure the Democrats and progressives etc You know they've staked out their territory as far as Trump is concerned I thought at some point some of his base would desert him some of the farmers certainly this trade deal is a lot of the stuff that he's promised them has not yet been borne out and we have and Robert is aware of this because he follows these things very closely our deficit is skyrocketing at this point just something he said that he was going to rein in that he has not done but if I had to say one thing he's done poor politics to politics whatever it is cheapened it it's made it to me a bit more course than it's been in the past and by that do you mean that he is the mystified funded sake's is taking the you know the clock you've got with Cannot something to do with the do you do you have it. No I mean look I've covered politics so. You know things that most people might look at and take it based value I never do because I know how to pull or. Process works I know how bills get introduced and pass through the legislature whether be a state legislature or the Congress I know how that process works and yeah if you want to call him a disruptor here certainly disrupted that process but he said most you said that you knew that you always knew that politics was cheap we didn't all know that and if he's made it much more apparent he's demystified the sort of deference we've had with regards to pointed things in politicians has any no Here's a saying people don't defer to politics those who. Have a particular view of it those who believe that it really doesn't impact their lives there much pretty much try to ignore politics even though Donald Trump has certainly tweets in what ever managed to grab the public's imagination about politics a lot of people don't think in their daily lives of politics not change anything. I think I think there is I think it if there is a there is a way an area where Trump has in a sense demystified politics and in there is a certain kind of a within cup within in politics on the American side I think the I think the British friends are a lot more direct when we would if we look at. Prime Minister's questions and so forth there's a level directness but in Him In America there's a cult there's a surprise this kind of. Deference to members of the of the of the other party you know you know and I'm my good friend on the other aisle blah blah blah Trump has completely destroyed that he has he has contempt he has contempt for. Any any any any of his enemies whether they're whether they're Democrats or Republicans or the media or what have you he is focused on he success. Sleep ended up blowing up the Republican Party as you know he's doing it so he's trying to do his best. On the on the Democratic side as well glow up you know blow up the media for the state and so forth so the idea that our institutions our political institutions or mediate it's Jewish and should be respected that something it trucked doesn't believe and maybe we were you know maybe we were naive believe it ourselves. So that's severe a judge an editorial writer for The New York Daily News formerly for the New York Post and a conservative libertarian blogger and pundits and we heard also from our own Mark Riley broadcaster political critic as well and this is a 1st name conversation for us here in the U.K. You know what we this is this is a defining week with regards to Prime Minister Boris Johnson's own grip on power not least of his party and what Robert said earlier about the way Donald Trump has blown up the Republican Party and. Well just basically sides sideline it. Boris Johnson has been watching closely is doing exactly what I was coming on to that because people are accusing Boris Johnson at least this weekend of. Re defying the Conservative Party when he said that any Conservative M.P. Not just those in the cabin any Conservative M.P. Does the votes against you know do you. Break could be decent acted 808-590-9693 that's the issue for debate this morning how as Donald Trump. Changed politics and how has your view of politics changed as a result of daughter charm as well this woman of our listeners to you both Trump is a breath of fresh air a politician who actually vocalizes the opinions of his supporters what say you Mark Riley. One would hope and not a majority let's put it that way 2016 they weren't a majority he won in the Electoral College but I mean look but I'm not sure the punditry should not be vocalizing the opinions of the supporters. The nativist part of it the anti emigrate part of it no he should not he should rise above that I know that there were people for example George W. Bush was president who held the same views that are now being vocalised by Trump supporters but did you know George W. Bush much as I may have disagree with him on a lot of our sea issues did not go nativist the way Donald Trump has I mean immigration is immigration you know I mean as controversial as it is it's a mainstream subject I don't know if there's been a single election over the last 50 years in Britain where immigration has not played a part in the manifestos of the mainstream parties no one no one mark OK people may have objection to views on immigration but surely immigration is a mainstream issue would you not say even in America mainstream issues yes although it was not a mainstream issue. You know you go back 10 years it was not the same type of mainstream issue when there's a recession immigration doesn't that become an issue but I have to tell you gotten I sincerely hope that your man Boris Johnson over there isn't depending on truck for anything in the event for example of a no deal grants that the U.K. May be reaching out to make trade deals with get a show Donald Trump and Donald Trump will stick it to Boris Johnson just like he stuck it to a whole bunch of people that used to work or the latest of which is some woman who got dismissed for gossiping about the family and Robert you said a moment ago the Donald Trump is blowing up the 4th estate by that you mean the media and one of on instances where was change journalist now have to sit on his Twitter page waiting for Brad you tweet they're blowing themselves up I'm a rebel. I mean to I mean to a certain extent but because you've got this tension. On the one hand members of the media of which I am one we would we would more than we'd be more than happy to have a weekend where we would not have to be looking at the present United States Twitter feed however because he is the the the president of the United States we have to. Watch is what his Twitter feed even when it becomes like this weekend he decided to get into a fight with the actress Deborah Messing from the show Will and Will and Grace and it becomes an absurd kind of a you know running after him to try to find out what he's you know what he's what he's thinking because it when he tweets something it has an impact it has impact on on the markets and it has impact so it therefore it has impact on the on the broader economy as well so you you have somebody who he basically you know he got rid of all minimized his his press secretaries and his communications directors he is doing that himself he's publicizing he's publicizing himself and unfortunately the media has to go has to go along with it because even when when the president is Donald Trump you it's got influence I think we'll all agree that one way that he has changed politics is he has allowed it to be or lease the president's opinions the leaders opinions to be disseminated in social media which arguably is the way that most people it is country or least many people in this country consume their information so he's bypassing journalists use of me. And going directly to people who are telling them what they think with allowing you to be debated through the prism I think though I would I would partly. Well I would have to partly disagree with that well it well it is true that there are literally billions of people with with Facebook accounts and then there are you know it's. Like if you are others who are aren't on Twitter most of the most media is still it is still absorbed through yes you know newspapers. Which there are still quite a quite a many still in the in the U.K. . And on television and on a radio and so forth yes social media has had a major impact and yes Donald Trump has has has weaponized social media in the same way that. You know F.T. F.D.R. Took advantage of radio and Kennedy took advantage of television and and and so forth yet he is a master of this new medium but let's not forget that most most people still get get their information from from traditional news sources you see by the way the rubber historically dotes of F.D.R. Franklin Delano Roosevelt President the United States during the war in the way that he mastered he mostly Dreda old talk to Jack Kennedy the way that he molested television to in the 96 the presidency. In the same way we will be talking to Donald Trump in the future where we as being the president who must this new media who tweets all social media and to directly in that respect I mean is there any does your mind that from now on politicians presidents of the United States Prime Ministers of Great Britain or elsewhere will not be using this media to talk directly to their constituencies in any doubt in your mind. I wonder you know when you say talk directly to the constituents. There are plenty of people who are weaponized saying what he said. And using so using it for social media on Iraq you know Donald Trump is not the head of the proud boys as one example but they've taken many of it is. Added to an opinion and they've made their own organization so handy they the proud boys who then the proud boys are a group of guys who are nativist. What you mean by that which me by a native as you said a couple of times yeah in other words America America America and people who seek to come here whether by the w

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