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761 and just under 3 hours Marty could now play top seeds Dominic t.m. In the 3rd round after his call up to the Scotland squad a lot of Shanklin has been back this morning to score for the national site former boss Ian McCall has told us the Dungy United striker will successfully make the jump from a Scottish Championship to the national side the former Tottenham midfielder Rafael van der Vaart has told the b.b.c. That the sparse players aren't as good as they think they are and they need to focus on improving their recent perform He's been speaking after they were thrashed 72 at home to Byron Munich in the Champions League and at the world of Latics championships and Doha. Goes for gold tonight in the final of the women's 200 meters Ashley Smith is aiming to become the 1st British woman to win a global sprint title for sport at her website. And Mary Watson has the travel Cheers Iowa not looking to the bridge routine cleaning on the bridge today between help us 9 on top 12 so there will be temperately in restrictions for short periods of time still in the end 9 North Bend is a lame closed on the exit slip because of a break died at junction 9 a barn congestion on the m 19 north by and from Junction 8 going far to junction 9 a bridge affair and Glasgow a meet why spend it still looking at tonsil from Junction 12 convert Oldroyd to 14 at the fruit market and 74 north by in Glasgow by and junction 2. Is looking slow there's a junction $18.00 Palmer That's b.b.c. Radio Scotland the weather central and southern Scotland will stay mainly dry and bright today with lengthly spells of sunshine the afternoon will bring closure skies at times with still largely fine with temperatures around 12 Celsius but northern areas will be windy whiskey shores and sunny spells the shores will be heavy with sleet or snow over the highest margin peaks of the b.b.c. Radio Scotland years thank you very much Greg was. 6510 this is chaotic b.b.c. Radio Scotland on the phone ever asking if you have sympathy for. Taking legal action against the Mail on Sunday for publishing one of her private letters to her father. No I don't have any sympathy this one here is a little it's a tricky one. Relationship becomes as presented by the the tabloids greed on behalf of the newspapers also naive of the royals to only want to present their shiny bright selves to the public is that realistic or a desperate plea to try and change the culture but I suspect it adds more drama to the story I think the only way to protect his family is to model a way of being that disempowers the. Yes Also on the program this morning is a sure idea of a time of. Getting to. Be responsible stream but are too many Golden Girls spending too much time eating and drinking. The court of Catherine is. In the wrong for calling a. Prenup Yes Well that's the question this morning that Katherine will be considering us a Considering she's already considered and she also wants to know what you think 8 to 95 Helen says maybe. It's 37 years ago I had an inkling that my husband was going to turn into a part of his shed. Had a pre-nup. Things are tough. Questions for you. Good question re Hollywood star Reese Witherspoon is all over it we don't want to talk more. I tried to protect it with my youngest last night and it didn't go well I have to say but more about that a little bit later on and like any other business the funeral market is changing to meet consumer demand on the way apparently or traditional religious services only 10 percent will for those I'm amazed by that what is in our theme is fireworks and even live streaming to keep us up to date I'm joined this morning by a humanist celebrant deporting Juergen morning holiday Good morning Kate how are you doing a very well indeed and director of undertakers and sort of Dominic McGuire Good morning Dominic Good morning created morning joining me in the studio as how I was staggered by that stat that only 10 percent of the traditional religious feel. It's a really I'm staggered by it as well cable used. Because certainly that is not reflected in the volume of funerals or the breakdown in the volume of funerals which we or most other funeral directors in classical would conduct there certainly has been a market a marked increase in the number of non-religious humanists or secular funerals but I certainly wouldn't put it at 90 percent of all that's what they say I don't know where the representative sample comes from but it's certainly not reflect labels in the city of Glasgow is it the direction of travel though do you think I certainly think it is the direction of travel personalization of funerals and celebration of life is something which as a form of farewell or goodbye is becoming increasingly prevalent families wanting more input into the funeral the choice of music even the type of coffin for example we're getting an increased request for a colorful coffins or a coffin which something that reflects something of maybe the hobby or the lifestyle or the personality of the deceased that said you know it's a small movement it's not something which is exploded overnight I often think for example that the choice of music at funerals I have seen a big sea change since the funeral of Princess Diana where the Elton John candle in the wind after that people realized that they did not necessarily have to stick with the conventional sort of church the 23rd Psalm or 5 and 6 abide with me that they could have really whatever they wanted and so some of the examples I mean that we talked about this in the show before and there can be some fairly irreverent choices and there could also be some some beautiful souls that are not hidden as well as well I mean what the ones that stick in your mind oh there are quite a few of the Robbie Williams song is quite quite popular and usually songs which are you know man. And may be romantic I've often heard families choosing a song which was of great significance to the deceased and probably has her partner and or it's a family song or something which you know will recall the pleasant memories for the family there are also some more humorous ones you know you know great balls of fire by Jerry Lee Lewis for someone who wants to leave or one which may be true 3 years ago I conducted were at the end of the funeral everyone was asked to stand up and sing. The elephant went to town and said goodbye to the circus you know you get things like this and there really are the nearly the elephant every left the crematorium laughing and smiling because it reflected something of the individual in the character of the person that they gathered to say goodbye to so you're saying that perhaps you know you're a bit surprised too that only 10 percent of the going for that. Formal funerals not your experience but it is the director of travel is it a good thing to think in your opinion is this a good steady action of travel Well I think at the end of the day we are here as funeral directors to satisfy people's wishes the guidelines which we have similar to the guideline for the Advertising Standards Authority provided it's legal almost decent and is still we will do it we won't do anything that's a reverent but by the c.m. Token. We're there to try and create a meaningful farewell for people so that when they leave the ceremony and runs the funerals all over and on and have a chance to sit back and reflect that they think right we got that right said something about him or her there was lovely little touches which were very important to them and it could be anything as I say from the coffin even the way in which they were dressed 40 years ago most people were dressed in a shroud or some sort of burial rule today the overwhelming majority of people. Are dressed in some form of the wrong clothing it may be a football top for example it could be in their goal fight for it but perhaps something which you know all the family are used to seeing them in quite recently I know what family who did the deceased would be dressed in a boiler suit because you know really jokingly said that all his life even in retirement they never seen him out of a boiler suit because he was always he was a mechanic during his life and retired he was always doing d.i.y. Stuff and in thing and decorating and he always had a boy so the important thing is that when that family come to pay their last respects and see that person in their coffin the see someone with whom they are familiar not someone you know Elian to them dressed in a form of funeral gear which really meant nothing to them and those supposed to be how they and this sort of excuse me for them I think is a move towards personalize ation and a set of many that that means something to the people that are there and it is we're kind of you come in and we're human to celebrants come in because people who don't have a religious faith want to have that representation Yeah absolutely the absolute fantastic points made there one big thing that I'm seeing these days is people are talking more about it. You know death even in the Western culture in some respects used to be almost a bit of a tub you talk about death you know you see Sunday during the street you ask Are Heroes your day to day or as a funeral or in your head state nothing you go on to another subject almost But these days a lot more people are speaking more boat and if everyone's having these conversations then but it is a sad occasion isn't. It. Though for me that the whole the whole grief process is such a personal aspect am when some to pass' a way people might be grieving on the funeral people might not even have started grieving some people won't grieve some people will never stop grieving soul to be soul general us to see a funeral is going to be a sod occasion. For some it will be but I always try and get again with a point was made I was trying to fair reflection of that person so if you're there at the funeral and you're hearing some amazing stories about that person who you loved you're in some amazing tales you cue in the crowd you're hearing some music that reminds you of them why wouldn't you sit back and enjoy hearing about the person that he that you loved and spent time with during your life so I mean ideally you would like to have the funeral that people enjoy It was a funny thing and one of the 1st few funerals I did in the family were coming after shaking hands with a few body and then they would come to me and say oh thank you so much I really enjoyed it and then you would see them they would check themselves think and I can't say that I can't say enjoy the funeral for meals are really cool moment because yeah you can enjoy if you know obviously it's going to be very challenging and in some respects it's going to be a very tragic circumstance and it will be a challenge to make it positive us fun but that's what my job as and in any job as a celebrant or anyone who comes to fashion a funeral you have to reflect that person fairly f. In life they lived at amazing life that you have to make that funeral I mean as if you know at the same a space of something lived quite quiet reserved and content life then you reflect the whole soul and what you do in the ceremony I mean as it was because challenge for you how that because in most instances of course you wouldn't have met that person and I imagine and then you have to go in and some higher Lerone enough and gather enough information and soft information as opposed to be able to to represent how you go about it Well absolutely I mean sometimes I am. Look enough to have met the person in life or maybe towards the end of their life I'll get the the owner to go and sit with them and just get the Cracow of a cup of coffee or a cup of tea and I would just talk about things but yes the vast majority as I don't get the opportunity so is about me rocking up to the house and that's just for my personal way of doing it I like to go dressed as I am you know I don't go up in a suit and tie because I think that will put people will bring on a front straight away so I'll go a nice new a law school and sit day in and I will just talk and I don't go on going. Sorry about your loss and I don't put on this voice that some people tend to do when you're talking of 3 funerals I'll just go Vox Yeah I'm all it's that they write let's let's do it I will talk about it to a little through ideas of me I'll throw ideas at them we're always working with the funeral directors at the same time so together we just get that fair reflection always respectful always always meaningful Bahasa be a fair reflection of the parson. And you know themes it is interesting I said to Dominick you know to be honest I need to change this is terrible of me exactly the source of this study that I am talking about so let me just say that this is a study from another funeral directors so this was their conclusions here and then they're talking about it's the. Life streaming even in extreme says circumstances I mean are you seeing that whole day yet the last treatment certainly come in and more prevail in these days it's an option there for the families where there are many families actually taken up as another as another thing was more so because at the way I've seen it as if you have relatives in Australia or New Zealand or America and they can't make it so they'll be given a live stream link to be able to watch the funeral and people who can't make it through ill health then again they could be given this live link many times I'll have the funeral be recorded even just on a voice recorder so then they can turn that into the m p 3 of them the same not to loved ones because. It is these days especially with the human ceremonies it's like oh this is your life for Hamas kind of thing so it's really lovely to hear un for me to be oh it's an honor for me to sit and speak and and hear stories about people from all different ways on the spectrum minutes it's a real honor and I have to say one thing that occurs to me don't I and I totally or not to the faith that this is my own kind of passionate feelings about it and what's important about any few known and simplicity and how they would say this is that the people the family and the loved ones are comfortable with it and there's going to be a range but when you have this kind of move direction of travel towards and less formality and you know more of a celebration and opening up to different kind of ways of representing the person and does that leave behind the people who actually want formality. Or not at all and that kind of experience is not a toll when we arrange a funeral today what we have is rather than a sort of a formalized a range meant conference what we have is a conversation and b. Try to elicit from the family something about the person you also you know and this is probably just done to experience you get to New within a matter of minutes the sort of people that you're dealing with you nor if they are people who want to have a fairly conventional type funeral and you also equally learn by experience if you're sitting talking with a family who are much more along the lines of having a celebration you know what some Porton does this that the central theme of any funeral is the act of saying goodbye or farewell and that is done with all the emotion and with all the solemnity etc that's required the celebration aspect can go on afterwards when they go to have a week in a hotel or a restaurant or a pub or whatever but we're also noticing an increase in the number of different locations for funerals for example people having what's often referred to by funeral directors as an upside down funeral in other words the committal takes place at the crematorium when maybe only immediate family are present and they would have a ceremony maybe a couple of days or a week later for example at the golf club that they are in with the ashes would be there with a photograph of the deceased and the friends would gather there and then after the ceremony is over they would disperse the ashes somewhere probably on the golf course you know we have an increasing number of funerals like that or funeral ceremonies being held in hotels or in pubs but no matter what is provided it's of relevance and it strikes or no people I buy I personally have been involved in a number of. Fairly high profile funerals in the last 6 months with the Nicolaus. And the opportunity it was given to people who would have had some indirect sporting connection with the deceased and the opportunity was given for those people to come along to venues and pay their respects and then allow the family to have the privacy of a family service and a medal afterwards as all of this I mean everything you thought about years have you I have I thought about mine I happy enough I thought about it and I suppose as time goes on and you realize that you're getting closer and closer to getting a vote lined in very general terms what I want and I want something that's just fairly family ish. Fairly modern and something which as I say but reflects something of the individual that I am alone a funeral director I'm anything but morbid believe me and anything but and I've long since learned that every day as important and to get as much right of every day as you possibly can any unconventional music choices or coffin choices something that really tries anyone no not particularly I think many of my coffin choice might be will not surprising but I would prefer to have one of those sort of basket type things as opposed to you know the conventional style coffin and that's one of the things we see is real k. Where the market leads to some degree is when you see soap operas and there's a funeral on Deal or a car or some of these things and they have something on usual you can bet your bottom dollar within the next month we will probably in most funeral directors will have requests there may be the horse hairs and you'll get requests for the horse hairs there may be a cardboard coffin and you'll get requests for the cardboard coffin these things prompt people to think that things can be done differently from what they think a conventional funeral ought to be. They have you thought about it a person every time every few Where do you my kind of mind seems to change and I think my last wish will be to get married to get buried in the central Murrayfield pitch. For the health care costs actually at the moment it's going to help us. All save every time I speak to families I get it's incredible job and I love it and I get inspired by literally every family after Sam do so my mind changes the whole time for yourself care of you for going to no no no I haven't I have to say I'm trying to stammer a few little plan here at the moment. Where you go so I'll print your feel. Good i gave us guys. Thanks very much said don't go out as if you want to hang around till 12 all getting a signature and how they put it in who's been a human a celebrant for 5 years and we do have some people with some ideas Scott from shorts the same Would the gentleman be happy I think is addressing this you don't need to plea to the final cut from my favorite farewell song as my corpse is committed for commission you know the final code absolutely not a problem and there's nothing just here still about and told me from and says prop me up to say that if I die but you would defeat a good laugh get a spin of my farewell party. And so there you go so that. Thanks very much a whole day and Dominic if you have saw a boat you would perish the lies I would you perish the lies your funeral who would you design it in such a way that when people walked over where ever it was they would think yeah that was the person that I. Eat 295 I'm Jenny MacPherson from Inverness I love to eat all sorts of crazy from all sorts of places to be perfectly honest there is nothing I don't like the new series. The kitchen

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