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BBC Radio Solent BBC Radio Solent December 4, 2018 030000

Woman has died after she was hit in the face by a take ass canister during anti-government protests in MA say violence has broken out in recent days after the introduction of a fuel tanks in front She's the 4th person to die a group of M.P.'s say the transport sex trade should have done more to stop this year's timetable chaos on go via Thameslink northern Ryo the transport Select Committee claims there needs to be genuine change the people who rely on the railways and chat is the Labor M.P. Greenwood the secretary of state sits right at the top of the trend but he didn't have the information he would have needed to actually call a halt to the implementation of the timetable change which think he could have been more proactive in seeking to test the information that he was sent Chris Grayling has apologized for the disruption but insists he received reassurances from train bosses just days before the timetable what life the N.S.A. P.C.C. Says the number of cases of child cruelty and neglect has doubled over the last 5 years police figures collected by the charity suggest there were almost 17000 reports last year poor who'd show adopted a little boy and 2016 he's legs were amputated after he was abused there are the resources to follow or not these children are at risk and sadly there are too many children at risk and they are being kept in a room for women that they should never have to live with out there was a fight there and I'm sure there are no other children the former U.S. President George Bush Sr is lying in state in the US kept so his son George W. Traveled with his father's body on the flight from Texas following his death on Friday the Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell remembers Mr Bush's 1st speech as president he said we made on democracy front porch a good place to talk as neighbors and as friends. The words of a humble servant who loved his fellow citizens and of a principle leader who knew America not only guard our own future but also safeguards for democracy the funeral will be held on Wednesday time to get some support now has 10 round Madrid's chalice won the 28 Ballon d'Or awards no player has won the prize that isn't Christiane over now though all they know Messi since 2007 England's Frank Kirby and Lucy bronze missed out on the 1st ever women's award to lay on a Norway striker 8 ahead owner Mike Ashley has revealed he would like to sell Newcastle United before the John B. Transfer window speaking to Sky News Ashley says he is hopeful the sale can be completed to an owner that will please everybody Southampton are set to approach the former boss of RB Leipzig Ralph Aston who pull off the sucky manager Mark Hughes League one Fleetwood Town which when is the National League north side guys Lee in the F.A. Cup 2nd round Joey Barton side now host A.F.C. Wimbledon in the 3rd round while non-league So the whole Morse have been brought home to Arsenal if they beat Blackpool in their replay the rest of the 3rd round matches can be found on the B.B.C. Sport website and if Inish 10 between West Brom and Bradford in the championship at the Hawthorns and in the 3rd round of the U.K. Snooker championships in York last night's The real wins for Mark Williams Joe Perry Stephen acquire and Martin O'Donnell this is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live on digital B.B.C. Sound small speak under the weather tonight largely dry the clear skies and widespread across as we head on into the morning it will start bright will that will become hazy later on as cloud of rain pushes in from the southwest of highs of 10 degrees Celsius. Not only Premier League football and then anyone else later on tonight we'll take a race road as well so to tell you some interest this is a pico City 8 pm to maximize sports and see if this is your full station in this case 5 love life. On AM and F.M. Are in the U.K. Digital and on light and Roger Sharpe were up all night when the Play a board game your answer will tell a lot about you the fact that my nephew was excited about hanging out at the boardgame cafe and least with his new wife and I was there for the kids came along opened my eyes to an aspect of boardgaming I never suspected and yet in The Tempest Shakespeare's happily ever after revealing the end of the play the scores as fat Nanda Miranda playing at chess I should know it's not just a nerd thing for a more romantic and so I turned to Tristan Donovan and his history of an inch an obsession it's all a king. I guess we've always played the red mean it's. Sort of ended up being sort of categorized as part of this net coach a finger families have been playing ball games for Forever People been playing ball games forever in medieval times chess was you know a game of romance backgammon was paper I would stars in the seventy's but who came to palm Paso Fleischer think it's actually quite a recent thing we started to see them as a bit kind of childish or a bit nerdy but this board game cafe movement is really strong isn't it and and it's a movement that does seem to attract people who you know might be working for a friend yeah and scream socialize and 8 when the great things about ballgames is eats Let's say you have a ball game café Now if you have a date at a restaurant you've got to keep the conversation going it's all be all quiet you play a board game well there's some rules and if you're struggling for conversation inside Well we can focus on the game for a little while it's kind of bit less pressured. So I think it's got that kind of appeal to it and I suppose true of your you know if you have a friend that you write of things to say you can still hire out together even if you're not saying anything yes actually is kind of face to face interaction about any of the pressure of just right we're here because I can't keep the conversation going well let's talk about the sort of overall a romantic kind of aspects of boardgame and why twister very nearly didn't go off the grow can can you tell so to us to got started yet so started in the sixty's and kind of into day one to disc aim that people could play with their feet since it evolved into a twist as we know it where you spin the dial and it tells you which color you've got to put your hand on your 1st so on and now in in the sixty's this idea of kind of people kind of getting that tangled up together was quite risque. The idea of oh we're going to kind of put this game out and we're going to get we're tangled up together it was seen as quite quite outrageous and in America says which was the big department store refused to Stockett's. The company's competitors accused of being sex in a box I mean it caused this sort of bit of outrage and it got stage where the publisher Milsom Bradley when we can't sell this game we're going to stop producing and give up on it and what saved it was The Tonight Show in America which side bake evening primetime program. The P.R. Company had arranged for it to be shown on there with Johnny Carson and this beautiful actress playing it together and they for well we're not going to count Celeste even though we're putting out production and so. They go on T.V. They play twister captured the nation's attention and the next day everyone wants twister and that's how it started so it was seen as a very kind of outrageous game even though now it's sort of. Something the kids play but it's funny isn't it because it actually was invented by and I had and you know what I'd agencies were like in the sixty's at least we've all seen Mad Men haven't. We could kind of understand why it was a mad man who came up with it yes pretty Speirs shoe polish promotion originally. Well let's talk about chess go about the beginning how did chess actually get it start Well chess is changed a lot so is it written A today in India. Early sort of what is it $680.00 some some time around then and then there was an of say a country called India. Or Empire and it emerged as this game sort of almost similar board to modern day chess board but is a 4 player game. Had equivalent of dice so I was a gambling game. And so you had these 4 armies fighting with each other and doing at alliances it was in some ways closer to risk than what we know is chess. So it came on the pressures a gambling game from but it's another religious groups who kind of felt well gambling's evil you should shouldn't play gambling games so they got rid of the dice and after a while they fought well you know for funding for people to play disclaims a bit difficult that's produce it. And then disc aim sort of started travelling with traders so they moved over to Persia and they changed some of the. Pieces because pieces were based on the Indian armies which had elephants and things like Datsun in Persia side well we don't have these elephants were changed into chariots and so it's not a sort of this travel west and off to Persia or it went to the Middle East and they changed changed it cities more abstract. Plane pieces because I see Islam was less keen on the idea that you just have a literal interpretation of what the piece is supposed to be then it moves on to Europe can you recite well we like this game but it's a bit slow because time didn't have to Queen pace they just had this one that move just like the king in say your star game and it would just be like moving for treacle your to play for half an hour just to get close enough to attack each other so in Europe we went we're going to have queens and make it a much faster game and really it's kind of this game this call along and it's just picked up a little bits of different coaches as it's moved along kind of evolving into chess 7 hundreds of years and so it was it was the Europeans who put Knight into the game and bishops Yeah and bishops were you know a point of contention in Europe and in the the French had the food laughing can Italy was the flag bearer and you know no one was quite sure what the bishop was supposed to be and did up being the British British bishop in the end but there was a time where no one was quite sure what it was going to be we need there was a peace and it had to be something. You know and we think about chess of course we've all seen the kind of resin reproductions of the Isle of Lewis Chessman But but actually the standardized chess match was another British invention Yeah so it's kind who How would Stuart and whose names attached to it is actually created by a company called John jacks which is actually still going and. What's happening around the this time and this is the 850 is international chess tournament started say rich people were kind of if you like chess were travel from England to Paris to play games against great chess players there and then off to Berlin and so on and what they found when they got that was they didn't recognise any of the chess pieces because everyone had their own different style of chess space you know that come to play games and is that Bishop or the Nigeria all it's completely different when I have a home so it became quite clear there needed to be some kind of standardize ation if you're going to have people travelling to different countries to play chess and to Staunton chess set came along and had lots of vantages it was easy to recognise old pieces they were quite easy to mass produce they didn't fall over which was quite a problem some of the very old chestnuts have very tall pieces which if you kind of your chest bows a bit wobbly they were just told over all the time so how do those advantages and people just sort of settle on yeah that's the one that's one way we want for everything and then eventually get the official chess organization for the world and it goes right this is the official sets and really that's when chess sort of became fixed and stopped changing because we stablish this international told minutes kits and well you don't want the rules keep changing 7 said this is chess and this is how it's always going to be. And then if you're younger I suppose you think that a game like backgammon well it's always been our own but but you tell us that back out and worse in the terrible spiral of the Coit and before the 1960 S. Yeah it's been a game that's really sort of struggled since the Victorian era. Once the playing cards became really popular with gamblers sort of backgammon really lost and by the time is coming to the late 1920 S. It it was just a sort of game the you know no one really played it kind of out the dition you'd get on the back of your chessboard but then when ready seem to pay any attention and then sort of gamble is picked up on it and create a distance vice this doubling Q. Which basically inflated the bets as you went along and that revived it for a while and then everyone lost interest again. Kind of game that's kind of faded away and come back and had a big revival in the late sixty's and for out seventy's a guy called Prince Alexis open Lenski he was one of the Russians who fled when the communists took over he really loved backgammon and went on this kind of one man crusade to make backgammon fashionable and he managed to do it sorry go with the Stars interested and you know you'd have people like Tina Turner and Ringo Starr Ramy Jagger and Jimmy Connors coming along to play backgammon and these huge toward Ment's where people would put their own bets of course was today quarter of 1000000 pounds on one game it became this really sort of swish exciting thing the you know people gathering Monaco it's a player that had this amazing heyday in the seventy's before kind of once again losing its a liver and becoming this strange game with borders triangles on the back of the chessboard here it while going back to Victor. Times even predict times in the 19th century was a real Haiti for board games at least for for the beginnings of boardgames tell us about a man called Milton Bradley So Mr Bradley really is the guy who kind of started what we think of as the ball game in the street he's a guy from He's in Springfield Massachusetts and he sets a perp printing company using the latest printing technology and thinks it's going to make him he's for change and the sales are dreadful there's a recession on never once the prince any fink so is there with Smith scenes that you can't do anything with say goes well are events a board game and maybe that will sell so he starts doing that and basic rates game called The check a game of life and this was. Really in tune with the times because New England was a very sort of puritanical area of the United States at the time so there were lots of ball games with these moral messages the sort of Christian messages about good and evil being moral and serious very much in Cheam with that so. You'd go around the board and you have to avoid sort of doing bad deeds and do good deeds for the leader to reach a happy old age and so he created this game but he was quite worry bike see kind of for well my Puritan friends again to you know Fink I'm kind of falling off of the virtuous path by making this game so he said Well where could I go and sell a game that would be seen as an virtuous I know New York City. Where else. So he went there sold a few came back and kind of forgot about it because he got into the business of doing prints of Abraham Lincoln which was make him a lot of money but in the meantime that game started taking off and so that really started selling it started getting all these orders from people who want these came in that really started the ball rolling for the modern boardgame industry and today I mean that game's evolved into a game of life which doesn't have any of the moralistic messages it's over the ballot you know who can make the most money before you die. What were some of the things that you aren't supposed to do in his original game. Some of the things we're had a suicide Square say you were not to do that and that was the worst square on the board head of a game ender Yes absolutely you got chucked out of the game if you went on to that square there were also squares about you know adultery of things like that so you know that actually for the time is a relatively tame game there was one before it called dimension of happiness and that was really severe RAM in it was kind of you know if you do something on a Sunday you get sent to the stocks kind of came say I mean some Bradleys version was quite liberal for a time. And whatever became of as pictures of Abraham Lincoln business. Well it did really well for a while and then. Little gal wrote Abraham Lincoln and said you know what you look so much better if you had a beard and Abraham Lincoln Group bid and Milton Bradley's presence just had a bit less so after a while people find out Abraham Lincoln's got a bid and they come back again this is an Abraham Lincoln why you're selling me this a Abraham Lincoln's beard basically destroyed his business. Just in time for the ball game to save him. Just as well now the other great name in the field is George Parker Tell us about George Parker Yeah so he's a little later he's 1888 and he basically really broke away from that moralistic type of war game as a child he grew up playing things like that check a game of life and or his friends just felt boring you know all the time it's just the these preachy games you know we want something just fun and so part so George Parker came along went right on going did he's fun games and we're going to do game bow banking where you speculate on the. Stock market him make those money and this kind of thing and he was part of a really sort of I should in this new wave of Victorian board games which wrote about sort of the modern new well that was a merging with sort of ships and telegraphs and department stores and I mean it sounds very clean now but of the at the time it was very exciting so you get things like the game of bicycle race for the new new craze for cycling and so he really sort of moved games away from sort of having to teach deeds moral lessons to it's just about fun. Why why do you think that was mean sociologically Why were people ready to get into capitalism for example I think people would started to move into cities they'd started to divorce from the church a little bit. They were seen the stuff going up around them it was exciting and new you had electricity coming here it just felt like this sort of modern age was sort of arriving and there was probably more leisure time happening as well people were richer people had a bit more time to get well what shall I do in my spare time so I think think all those things came along where is before the attitude was well if you're playing that should be some educational benefits here you know you can't just play thing into tame and you know there must be a lesson you must be almost working while you're playing. Well or in the words of a very old American T.V. Show this is the 64000 dollar question and your question is who invented monopoly. Lizabeth Maggie said. Yes exactly say. She she's so disses 1982 and she's a sort of prototype fent feminist if you like she's an independent woman which is unusual for that time she has her own job she has our money and she and she is very politically active and choose part this big movements at the time called the single taxes and their belief was really land you shouldn't make money just from owning land stead let's polish your taxes and take and do 100 percent tax on land on just owning land so you don't get profit just from sitting on a bit of land here and she wanted to spread the word of this she for I'll make a board game to spread this message and she created a game called landlords game and had 2 sets of rules and one was very much like Monopoly where you go around the board and say you've got 4 players one of you will end up the evil landlord Vogel and all the money and everyone else be destitute just as in modern day monopoly. Version was under a single tax system where everyon

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