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7 possible drone sightings 373 people are now known to have died in Saturday's tsunami in Indonesia dozens more remain missing and rescue workers are using heavy lifting equipment to clear blocked roads as they try to reach cut off areas Luis a fair use in is from the British Red Cross we know from past experience people can survive quite a long time even if they've been trapped under rubble the key thing is having access to water and air and not being affected by critical injuries so the search and rescue is in a critical phase right now there is still hope for many people but we need to act. Dozens of medium sized earthquakes have been recorded around the Sicilian volcano Mount Etna lover an ash clouds have been spewing from the mountain for several hours forcing some airports to close. A man with a jewel British Iranian nationality who was detained in Iran in April on security charges has been released professor at A.O.L. Or an expert in computer science at Imperial College London has now returned to the U.K. The development has been welcomed by Richard Radcliffe whose wife and as a name has been detained in Iran for more than 2 years I think today's news is obviously positive there have been other positives there also been some negatives and you know I spent time looking at the tea leaves and having that happens and trying to read what it means for us. In Iran as well as volatile politics in the U.K. Pretty volatile these days so you know it is a bit take it day by day and keep hoping and keep pushing and yeah I guess what happens next Pope Francis has used his Christmas Eve Mass in the Vatican to encourage people to lead simpler less materialistic lives he's also criticised the divide between the world's rich and the world's poor that's the 5 live news on Christmas Day Now his shop now with a sport Liverpool boss you can clap says nobody should feel safe in the Premier League title race and insists that Chelsea and Arsenal remain in the hunt club side of 4 points clear of Manchester City at the top and play Newcastle on Boxing Day at Anfield mean on the customer says it will be a miracle if they were to avoid relegation from the Premier League could be without midfielder Henrik military in for up to 6 weeks he's got a broken foot the I.B.S. Featherweight champion just Mornington says he's targeting the unification fight with one of the 3 other world champions wanting to make his 1st title defense against come from to over the weekend and England cricketer Tom Curran started bottom ball but still ended up on the losing side a Sydney sixes were beaten by Sydney Thunder in a big bash Darby currents at 3 for 24 and scored a quick via 62 in the game this is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live on digital B.B.C. Sound Smart speaker. And the 5 live whether it won't be a white Christmas I'm afraid but it will be mostly dry mainly cloudy for they could be the. Spell in northeast England and eastern Scotland shows a possible in western Scotland in Edinburgh of 9 to Grace money Premier League football to anyone else on Thursday nights on the station with more life Premier League football than anyone else in Southampton 1st his West Ham pickup says 745 the best life sports See this is your full station this is 5 life Columnaris hay with 5 life breakfast 7 but now I'm a foster looks back at the Apollo I crew who spent Christmas on the far side of the moon. 50 years ago during Christmas in 1968 Frank Borman and Jim Lovell became the 1st people to reach the false sight of the moon before Neil Armstrong's famous 1st step onto the lunar surface these 3 men took humanity further than it had ever been before the 6 day journey would be the most ambitious space flight ever attempted but I think there are points everybody wondered whether we'd make it or not it would come at the end of one of the worst years in American history it seemed that the entire fabric of the country was being torn apart and everybody was divided against everybody else and it only seemed to be getting worse and it would pave the way for a man to set foot on the main crew had one chance in 3. Mission and then one chance of 3 coming back. I'm out of foster Apolo 8 Christmas on the far side of the moon over the next hour on 5 Live I'll be telling the story of how man ventured to the moon for the 1st time and what happened in the years leading up to that momentous mission Colonel Frank Borman was 40 years old a former test pilot Apollo 8 would be his 2nd trip into space Bowman joins NASA to beat the Soviets in the space race caps and. Level was a 40 year old former test pilot he'd been to space with BORMANN In a previous mission level was driven by the excitement of traveling to space and General Bill and this was 35 he joined NASA after being a Navy fighter pilots Apollo 8 would be his 1st and only mission and his was as excited about the prospect of getting to the moon as he was to win the space race level on than ours were fantastic and of angels that know what they were doing they are a very well motivated saw but I think pollo it was as good a crew is now as ever produced together they were a full medical crew it seems NASA could not have selected 3 men were perfectly suited for the 1st journey to the moon and more perfectly suited for each other robot cussen is the author of Rocket Man the daring odyssey of Apollo 8 and the astronauts who made man's 1st journey to the moon and this journey starts with a promise from President John F. Kennedy in 1961 President Kennedy addressed Congress and the nation and made a promise and it seemed not just a crazy promise at the time but an insane promise an impossible promise I believe that this nation should commit. We're kidding the goal or that. Of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the your. No single space project in this area will be more effective. Or more important for the long range exploration of space and none so difficult or expensive to accomplish. Kennedy's aspiration to put a man on the moon wasn't just about space exploration America and the U.S.S.R. Were locked in a vicious cold war both nations so getting to the moon 1st as a key battleground the problem for the Knesset was 6 years after Kennedy's speech the Soviets were winning and it was something that astronauts Borman and and as were very aware of they were far I had a course the 1st spot next the 1st. Man of space the 1st woman in space the 1st 2 capitals in space they 1st aviator they were they were far as it was not clear that we were that superior we were quite worried that the Soviets would pull something off that would win the propaganda battle which is really what it was not all to show the United States that we weren't a separate power but also to show the rest of the world that capitalism and democracy were a better way to go than to tell Terry and isn't although the U.S. Had successfully sent 20 of its citizens in suspects no one had traveled beyond orbits but it was hoped that a series of missions cooled Apolo would change that well I think there are a points everybody wondered whether we'd make it or not an especially after the fire and January of 1967 that killed 3 Apollo astronauts Grissom Ed whites and Roger Chaffee were running a routine test just a few weeks before the shuttle launch into it at the start of the Apollo program and John tripe was young engineer working at NASA as Kennedy Space Center in Florida that night the last test we'd run that evenin was a a simulated static fire at the reaction control system thrusters so we would know how long that procedure would take you know when we actually did it in the countdown and of course it was about a month before launch so as you know we were getting down to the. To the short hairs there and we ran that to that test and Gus was particularly grouchy because of the comm system the comm was acting up it was getting to be really noisy and you know he made that statement because the program any time. Skip the test conductor said hey let's just take a 10 minute break here guys there so let's see if we can fix this composition before we go into the terminal count it was like T. Minus 10 minutes at that time so we went into a hold and. Midway between in the hold all of a sudden we get was dead quiet on the on the headset a cry fire and we believe it was Gus that said that. And I just looked up and I looked at the chap on the next console to me and with a you know I just basically question in fire. What's he talking about and then immediately it came in another voice came in which we think was Jaffe's it said we've got a fire in the cockpit get us out of here we're burning up. And then another brief pause a scream and then dead silence. America's 1st 3 Apollo astronauts were trapped and killed by a flash fire that swept their moon ship early tonight during a launch pad test at Cape Kennedy in Florida probably one of the lowest points in my my career you know we really think most of us thought shortly thereafter that was probably going to be the end of the program. But somehow we kept going during 1967 we know we had all the investigations all the political hearings the reviews. The main driver during 1967 was to recover from the fire and when you think that in November 967 just 10 months later. We launched the Saturn 5 for the 1st time suddenly you know things were starting to move again Grissom whites and Chaffee with the 1st astronaut fatalities of the Apollo program that would one day land on the mood but a year after the accident things was starting to move again unmanned testing of the Saturn 5 rocket that would power future missions was on the way but there was a problem as well because next planes a section of the spacecraft called the Luna moche ill will Lem designed to ferry an astronaut to the main surface wasn't ready without a lunar lander there was very little that the Apollo program could do to continue on its pre-determined build up steps to the lunar landing so it looked like we were going to stand down and watch the Soviets win and that seemed unacceptable to so many people involved Pullman and levels original mission was to test the lunar module in a bit but if NASA was to achieve the moon landing before the end of the decade and keep ahead of the Soviets someone had to come up with a new plan a very quiet man a manager at NASA named George Lowe who was in charge of the Apollo spacecraft had an epiphany his idea was to skip several run up flights and send Apollo 8 instead of into low Earth orbit as a routine test to send it all the way to the moon 240000 miles away it didn't take long for lows idea to become a plan senior managers at NASA got together and worked out that this ambitious mission in Syria at least was possible but now someone needed to check with the crew Borman got a call on behalf of the team I got a call from hears and they frighten my boss they get an airplane and come back in it at Dr Maya. And I said they I am very busy Kenya this tell me over the phone he said No I'll get back he reminded me. That he was the boss of back Iowa. I walked in his office he said shut the door which had made us something was going on it told me that the CIA had recently determined that the Russians were planning a circumlunar fly before the end of the air and sense a lunar module wasn't ready they Powers That Be and NASA decided to make Apollo 8 a circum lunar flight and go without AI lab to the moon and I said yes let's go that's what that's where we are for that's how it happened but the new plan would have a bigger effect on Bell Labs than of his crewmates as a trained pilots he was hoping to one day set foot on the made when they took the lunar module away from our flight I knew that that was kind of the death knell of my chances of walking on the moon and frankly I was quite disappointed initially but I could see that you know what that bad a gig. So I just buckled down and did what I was supposed to do the plan was set in the December of 1968 Apollo 8 was going to the moon but his cousin Bowman explained it wouldn't be easy the problem with the idea was it was the most dangerous and risky and bold thing anyone at NASA had ever contemplated the 1st of the big problems was that the astronauts would have to use the mighty Saturn 5 rocket the only rocket powerful enough to deliver human beings to the moon the Saturn 5 had only flown twice both times in unmanned tests the 2nd of which had failed catastrophic Lee but maybe even most dangerous of all was the plan called for the astronauts to make this mission to make this trip in just 16 weeks everything would have to be compressed into an unthinkable time frame to have an outside chance of going in December Normally it would take over. Train for a mission but I was always concentrated And it down or any of the crew did during the Apollo program because it was like drinking from a fire hose that was forborne actual size you're listening to Apollo 8 Christmas on the far side of the moon on B.B.C. Radio 5 Live the crew's busy shuttle kept all 3 members away from their homes and their families Frank Borman was married to his high school sweetheart Susan the couple had 2 sons Frederick and Edwin sad they feel about the mission. The boys thought it was a great. Concern because she was convinced that they were rushing things. A disaster are best friends and they are Apollo program had been the Wyatts and. Pat Weiss closest counselor after Ed was killed so she was going to vents that the mission could not be successful. Landis this would be his 1st mission into space and his wife Valerie was worried we talked about it. And no matter what I did she she knew I was patriotic and so was she when it came down to Apollo 8 I told her quite frankly that this was an extremely important flight I was really lucky to have it even without a loader module and that we the crew had one chance in 3 of a successful mission we had one chance in 3 of the mission wasn't successful but at least we didn't crash and then one chance is 3 not coming back which. Is probably as good odds as I would have had in Vietnam but this was certainly a more important event than my colleagues it went to Vietnam had to put up with for the astronauts wives the idea of their husbands risking their lives by country was nothing new but that didn't make it any easier to back they'd all been on military bases they had all watched their husbands go out to fly missions are training missions with 3 other pilots they'd all heard explosions in the sky before they'd all waited for the black car to make its inevitable trip down the street and prayed that the black car would not stop at their home and so these women had to become hardened to the fact that there was a good chance their husband on any given day might not come home and when I started to process that and talk to these men the crew of Apollo 8 and realized that none of them could really explain much of anything without giving so. Much credit to their wives it started to make perfect sense to me that the wives in this way all while holding a happy face to the public were just as heroic and justice courageous in this mission as their husbands the Apollo program didn't exist in a vacuum but $968.00 America was 3 years into a war in Vietnam which had already deeply divided the country not going to be troops outside what it was a natural gas to ride which we're going to use. To Viet Cong machine gun in their 100 yards away night after nights on evening these programs American viewers watched the casualties mount the V.C. Took over the village of namo last night. They ambushed the group of Americans this morning. 401 treated them and sent them back over in camp up the road here with a message if you want your bodies and the village back you'll have to come and get up even America's leading me C.B.S. Is Walter Cronkite declared that the war could not be won or this is increasingly clear that this report of the only rational way out then will be to negotiate not as victims but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend the laws and did the best they could but the conflict in Southeast Asia wasn't the only problem slicing America in 1968 as well because the Explains you could make an argument that 1968 was the single most terrible and divisive and horrible year in American history they may have been years during the Civil War that were worse but separate from that 1968 is about as bad as it ever got in this country in Chicago more than a 1000 protest is on the only 200 police officers were injured in riots outside the Democratic Party's annual convention I want to. Know. God like God I tried to do what I did when it ended up proud. God damn it seemed that the entire fabric of the country was being torn apart and everybody was divided against everybody else young versus old Republican versus Democrat conservative versus liberal and it only seemed to be getting worse in Tennessee the leader of the civil rights movement Martin Luther King was assassinated. Older than me to volunteer and I live every day on the right of Dr Martin Luther King the apostle of nonviolence in the civil rights movement has been shot to death in Memphis Tennessee and in Los Angeles said it's a robot candidate he was campaigning to become President was shot and killed I run a big new policy. And in our city Senator Kennedy has been shot. And another man is going to have a gun I'm going to point out at me that moment I don't think you got a gun out of it and you can't be very careful here but you got it yet it seemed there was nothing in even in the minds of the people with the greatest imaginations of all there was nothing that could repair and mend this country and bring it back together again. But in November NASA announced to the public that it was to send men to the maid before the end of the year so could Apollo 8 save $968.00 the excitement as you can imagine was unbounded this would be the 1st time human beings ever left home ever and it would be if it worked the 1st time the ever arrived at a New World the moon it was thrilling but not everyone was swept away by the excitement editorial started to be written in the major newspapers begging NASA not to do that it's not worth it to send these 3 men on such a rush when it's just a matter of who gets there 1st one paper even argued to conspire with the Soviets to make this a tie please don't kill people they were saying even Buzz Aldrin's father who is an aviation legend himself argued with NASA don't do this it's too fast you need fewer yes men he said I even reproduce in my book a letter written by a schoolteacher from Connecticut who begged NASA don't do this especially at Christmas this is been the worst year anybody on earth has ever lived through please don't do this Christmas is the one time we have an hour to just to exhale just to relax just to settle down if anything happens to these men we will never look at the moon or Christmas the same again despite the threats of the Soviets in the space race the challenges of the training the problems in America and around the globe on the 21st of December 1968 the eyes of the world's turns to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida where the countdown to lift off had started this morning 3 Americans Frank Borman Jim Lovell and William Anders are on the verge of making man's 1st journey to the MO Apollo ites was just hours from launch spotlights Aluminite at the towering Saturn 5 rocket that would propel the man. To the moon it's one of those rare things that can draw off and take your breath away even in a photograph you don't even have to be standing before it it is so magnificent and so powerful it stands 363 feet tall imagine a $36.00 story skyscraper on a launch pad and thinking nothing is going to leave Earth soon it had the power to power the entire United Kingdom it peak usage on launch this was unprecedented power the astronau

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